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There were too many times to count when what his hands seemed to be doing (or lackthereof) was completely in contrast to what was heard... There are large numbers of witnesses of this same phenomena...
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Just in case you mortals forget what an incompetent bass player looks and sounds like, allow a Devil to remind you......
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I just kind of pretended he wasn't there.
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Don't forget Eddie. I was reading an interview a few years ago and the interviewer asked if Wolfie had discovered girls and Eddie said he knew Wolfie spanked it in the bathroom. LOL! Ed just said Wolfie would spend a lot of time in the bathroom and he knew what was going down.
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![]() totally true! there is the picture! there is the evidence!!!
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When I think of Van Halen it's not some zit faced kid looking out of place up there but more like this:
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man...that was a band you could win a war with back then...
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Van Halen won the Cold War!!!!
(well OK, not really, but no more ridiculous than saying Ronald Reagan did )
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No Offense taken, but I've played too. Not saying Ed's playing both - just one that sounds like a bass line. That doesn't mean W. is playing ANYTHING.
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Thank the lord that Eddie never had another kid, as Dave would have found himself out of a job
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Get a life, you Michael Anthony lover.
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To the inexperienced most won't catch it... but as a guitarist and front of the house engineer for almost 3 decades it was clear as day. From what I heard from the monitor mix it reminded me of some the soundboard leaks from Linda McCartney... For a live house system of that much huge power... it was amazing that Wolf's neck slides and cute little 12-15th fret magic show rarely came thru the subs or the mid-mains. Had he been hot thru those channels as Michael always was... it would have been clear and painfully audible. But it wasn't...
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0. Clearly audible... Check Wolf in post #4 at the :28 - :31... where's the bass?
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I'm 100% honest about what i'm saying and I know what I saw. Yes, he was playing at times and doing backup vocals at times, as was Edward. Then, out of nowhere, the sound would change and the backup vocals would be perfect and bass could be heard when his hands were not even touching the guitar... That is the truth! Thanks again Zah!!!
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was it just during the keyboard tunes Jump and I'll Wait, or were there other times as well? |
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How is Sid doin these days anyway? Tell Kurt Cobain I said hi.
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See, he may well have been miming along with pre-recorded bass at some points during the Tampa show. My seats were facing stage center, but I wasn't on the floor. I was seated up about halfway between the floor and the top of the arena, and even as I was alternating between watching the video screen and the performers, I noticed there was a slight lag on the video screen between the sounds being produced onstage, the images being shown onscreen vs the audio actually hitting my ears. When I say slight, I mean a half second or so, but even though I am somewhat of an experienced musician, I simply wasn't close enough to see Wolf's hands on the bass in realtime to tell for sure. The backing vocals HAD to be pre-recorded in spots, though. Again, they were just too perfect, and multi-toned in terms of different voices and pitches for just Dave and Wolf to have been doing them...and doing them THAT spot-on.
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If he's a Micheal Anthony lover, then he's all right in my book!
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The greater shock was Eddie's performance, which became very erratic after the first 5 or so tunes...
...his extended solo spot onstage towards the end of the show was, frankly, pretty painful to watch.
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To tell ya the truth, if Wolfgang Van Halen was actually playing his bass on a couple songs or all of them is pretty much a non-factor for me. Seriously, if you went to the show by paying your hard earned dime and enjoyed the experience, who is to say otherwise? Dave Roth and Edward Van Halen were finally reunited upon a stage. Some people have been waiting 20 odd years for this. Hooray.
OK. Yet for me, this entire enterprise was an approximation of Van Halen, from the get-go. And as such, I chose to opt out. I'll admit there is a certain cynicism in that decision, but it has been born out by what has taken place at the behest of the "band's" leader. To be a fan of VH these days means that you will purchase expensive products, like signature guitars, various pedals and even tennis shoes, all stating the addendum "This is what I use". The total irony in that advertising staple is the fellow has not used any of these devices to create new music since sometime over a decade ago. (Sorry Mr. Van Halen, three crummy Hagar rejects on a second "Best Of" record within less than a decade and a couple wank-jobs for a truly awful porn flick do not constitute artistry let alone quality, ya fuckin' dork.) So all in all, what does it matter if Wolfie played or not? At this point, Van Halen honesty borders upon masochism for those that still believe in this band. At least that is how I see it these days.
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Nothing to do with being a Michael Anthony lover...I'm a CVH lover. VH without Mikey is not CVH. Wolfie is not CVH. Dave is the only thing that saved that entire tour.
I saw two shows on the tour; I never really saw anything that made me believe without a shadow of a doubt that Wolfie's shit was fishy, but you gotta admit, there was an awful lot of buzz about whether or not he was really playing. I got nothing against the kid, and I went to see Dave and Ed together, period, so in reality the bass player didnt mean shit to me. Again, you gotta admit, a jack daniels swiggin psycho hammering open e is a lot more interesting than a kid that should be playing weddings. If I told you I wouldnt prefer the entire original lineup as opposed to what we got handed, I'd be lying. Just being honest. |
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It's too much like trying to find the silver lining these days. While it was neat to see Roth and Ed onstage together, too many times it was a case of Dave acquitting himself well and Ed being incapable...like, even the times that found everything clicking together well and the band started cooking, it was still just an approximation of the past...I found myself thinking "I've been wanting to see Dave and Ed playing together again for so long, but this is a bit underwhelming."
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Though they were mostly pre-recorded vocals but not necessarily the original Mike tracks.
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Backstage behind the S ramp (It stood for Sammy so Roth could walk all over him !!) Animal from the Muppet's was playin' Ed's sister big Al's part's !!!!!!!!!!!! Ralph the dog on key's & and me on guitar !! That's why Ed sounded like shit !! It wasn't his hand at all.
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Fuckit, lets all get sammy and Mike back onstage so we can resolve this issue...
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Ok delete that, I was having a sybil moment...
Anyone else had this bad weed doing the rounds at the moment ?? Good buzz, but geez...... Dont show yourself in public you might get a nobel peace prize !
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I would have won this years Nobel peace prize but I didn't manage to kill enough people in a couple of wars.
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I hate to dig this shit back up...but I gotta ask...if the kid was really playing, why no bass solo? I mean, that would have sealed him in solid, right? Certainly would have shut everyone up...right?
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I was in the unenviable position of living in Gnashville, where the motherfuckers REFUSED TO PLAY, DESPITE continually adding dates.
Fuckers! ![]() They played Atlanta 2wice, but both times it was during the week, when I absolutely could NOT miss work the next morning. And no way was I going to try to work on 2 hours of sleep. So IF they tour again, I sure as hell hope they play here, or if they don't, I hope they play someplace near here on a Friday or Saturday night. And what woulda helped to solve this dilemna once and for all would have been some pics of the FOH board that were hi-def enough to see the fader labels. |
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He did some noodling on the intro to So This Is Love but very brief and nothing to write home about.
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This coming from a guy who's opinions and expertise has been piped in for the last decade...
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Try 15 years. And now he wants to go wireless. Zero plus Zero still equals ZERO.
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