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I never did understand why the current scabs are wearing Ace & Peter's makeup. Vinnie Vincent & Eric Carr both had their own makeup characters, at least for a couple years before they went makeup-free for a decade & a half or so. They probably wouldn't recycle Carr's fox character since he died, but Vinnie's ankh-face thing was barely used. Seems more fitting that Tommy the Roadie wears that then being FauxAce.
Wouldn't surprise me if Chaim becomes the manager for MiniKiss and sends them out to do future tours. Maybe he can also teach them to actually PLAY the songs??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT6KSE2ICGQ
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Nickdfresh
Those young bucks can carry the show... :)
I wouldn't ever consider seeing anything that didn't include at least Ace. Even then, the guys mimicking the original (catman on drums) makeup would be nonsense...
Yeah...sort of comical in that Singer and Thayer 15 years ago were brought in to basically extend the life of the band - the reality probably is that even if Criss hadn't left in 2003/2004, it's doubtful that even on a purely physical level he'd be with the band today just in terms of ability to get through a set, and even watching Frehley circa 1996 vs. Frehley circa 1999/2000 one can discern a lessening of...ferocity - and I'm sure not having to deal with Frehley and Criss complaining about money was a factor: Singer and Thayer were under no illusions as to why they were brought in, and they collected their paychecks. Maybe both of them got a small piece of the merchandise.
Now, these guys/"scabs" who were in their early to mid 40s 15 years ago are getting right up there as well.
On a personal level, I wouldn't mind just seeing Ace, Gene, Paul and Singer playing. Even if it were in a smaller venue, without makeup and all the stage effects. In point of fact, I think that's how I'd prefer seeing them. Ace got up and did some songs at a Simmons solo show not long ago, and it sounded good. I still like that 70s material: I thought the 1995 Unplugged show was just fine, and it wasn't even electrified, never mind the absence of costumes and smoke bombs. The songs still held up well. I wasn't bummed out in the least that the original KISS didn't perform at the RnRHoF, because how many more times do I need to see the original four doing it "one last time, man, for the fans!" They DID that for four years in the late 1990s. I guess for some people enough is never enough, or it's never enough, or whatever.
The reality is that Peter Criss ain't coming back for a full tour, or even a full set. Shit, back in the day, Criss and Frehley were the ones I liked the most. Even so, Thayer and Singer gave that band a kick in the ass 15 years ago. Ace got lazy after the first couple years of the reunion. Criss eventually got too old to do it.
Then again, much like with Van Halen, I'm not what KISS would consider a useful current fan, in that I haven't spent nickel one on the band since the KISStory DVDs came out. Maybe some of the fans who still do spend money on the group really do care if Frehley is there or not, or maybe for the bulk of them it doesn't REALLY matter. Clearly, it hasn't mattered to those over the last decade and a half who have still attended KISS concerts, at least not to the point where it was a deal-breaker.
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DavidLeeNatra
I saw them three times. 88...98...2014...maybe I take my six year old daughter as I took the older one last time. I guess they do something with Ace and/or Peter. I guess, I go...one last time.
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Actually, I think THAT reason - taking your kids to see a band you liked to get a sense of what you liked - is pretty cool, actually. And I suppose as the years go by and these bands get too old, the opportunities for doing that kind of thing are going to be less and less...unless you've recently started enjoying, say, the music of Taylor Swift...or you have become a Justin Bieber "Be-lieber/believer"...
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Actually, I think THAT reason - taking your kids to see a band you liked to get a sense of what you liked - is pretty cool, actually. And I suppose as the years go by and these bands get too old, the opportunities for doing that kind of thing are going to be less and less...unless you've recently started enjoying, say, the music of Taylor Swift...or you have become a Justin Bieber "Be-lieber/believer"...
Well...there is always the Stones left...
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Well...there is always the Stones left...
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Yep, they're still touring sporatically. I'd say they are one of those bands worth seeing once.
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Well... since the Stones have been mentioned in a KISS thread, now I have to post this video.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rFj8igRzpA
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Beatles Butchered covers (nope it's got nothing to do with that "rare" US album)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY79GHDhiew
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Ace frehley could participate in your wedding
Former Kiss guitarist Ace Frehley is available to act as best man at your
wedding or walk the bride down the aisle – for a fee of $6,000.
The Ace Frehley Wedding Experience is offered at the Kiss Rock and Roll
Chapel in Las Vegas, tied in with the Kiss Mini Golf establishment in the
same location, during the weekend of Oct. 26-28.
More at:
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/ace-f...entertainment/
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silverfish
Ace frehley could participate in your wedding
Former Kiss guitarist Ace Frehley is available to act as best man at your
wedding or walk the bride down the aisle – for a fee of $6,000.
The Ace Frehley Wedding Experience is offered at the Kiss Rock and Roll
Chapel in Las Vegas, tied in with the Kiss Mini Golf establishment in the
same location, during the weekend of Oct. 26-28.
More at:
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/ace-f...entertainment/
Awck!
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Terry
Awck!
Lol!!!
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Terry
Awck!
https://youtu.be/ztya0C5Mvxw
It's an extra $3,000 to get "The Chef" to do that.
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"They Look Like Evil Clowns!"
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(@1:39) "For some odd reason, there are like, I see a lot of, like, ladies in their house and stuff. Still wondering why that is." So are many of us since a KIZZ concert is mainly a sausagefest... :D
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(@1:39) "For some odd reason, there are like, I see a lot of, like, ladies in their house and stuff. Still wondering why that is." So are many of us since a KIZZ concert is mainly a sausagefest... :D
LISten! I was talkin' to somebody backstage before, and they was tellin' me there's a lot of fat, middle-aged bald fanbois in the audience tonight. So put your hands up in the air!!
[Stanley then launches into I Was Made For Lovin' You, smacks himself in the ass and sassily taunts the mostly male audience by wiggling a long feather boa at them]
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LISten! I was talkin' to somebody backstage before, and they was tellin' me there's a lot of fat, middle-aged bald fanbois in the audience tonight. So put your hands up in the air!!
[Stanley then launches into I Was Made For Lovin' You, smacks himself in the ass and sassily taunts the mostly male audience by wiggling a long feather boa at them]
"You lick me, I lick you!" It's a Paul Stanley monologue quid pro quo!
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"You lick me, I lick you!" It's a Paul Stanley monologue quid pro quo!
Stanley is such a brassy, sassy...lad (?)
If I recall correctly, Stanley's nickname by the other three original members in the 1970s was 'He/She'...as in, is it a He or is it a She?
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Stanley is such a brassy, sassy...lad (?)
If I recall correctly, Stanley's nickname by the other three original members in the 1970s was 'He/She'...as in, is it a He or is it a She?
Ironically, in the early version of the KISS makeup - before they had the Kabuki inspired characters and looked more like the New York Dolls - it was Gene who looked more like the "He/She"...
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/phot...32-246-320.jpg
Yeah, Chaim is the blonde there. And despite appearances to the contrary, that is Ace and NOT Lily Tomlin. :biggrin:
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VINNIE VINCENT PERFORMS THREE KISS SONGS
IN RETURN TO ELECTRIC PERFORMANCES
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/vinni...ss-songs-live/
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More dates
August 6 – Sunrise, FL @ BB&T Center
August 8 – Charleston, NC @ North Charleston Coliseum
August 10 – Charlotte, NC @ PNC Music Pavilion
August 11 – Bristow, VA @ Jiffy Lube Live
August 13 – Virginia Beach, VA @ Veterans United Home Loans Amphitheater
August 14 – Newark, NJ @ Prudential Center
August 16 – Montreal, QC @ Bell Centre
August 17 – Toronto, ON @ Scotiabank Arena
August 20 – Brooklyn, NY @ Barclays Center
August 21 – Hershey, PA @ HersheyPark Stadium
August 23 – Darien Center, NY @ Darien Lake Amphitheater
August 24 – Saratoga Springs, NY @ Saratoga Performing Arts Center
August 27 – Syracuse, NY @ St. Joseph’s Health Amphitheater at Lakeview
August 29 – Cincinnati, OH @ Riverbend Music Center
August 31 – Indianapolis, IN @ Ruoff Home Mortgage Music Center
September 1 – St. Louis, MO @ Hollywood Casino Amphitheatre
September 3 – Des Moines, IA @ Wells Fargo Arena
September 5 – Little Rock, AR @ Verizon Arena
September 7 – Bossier City, LA @ CenturyLink Center
September 8 – San Antonio, TX @ AT&T Center
September 9 – Houston, TX @ Toyota Center
September 11 – Albuquerque, NM @ Isleta Amphitheater
September 12 – Denver, CO @ Pepsi Center
September 14 – Salt Lake City, UT @ USANA Amphitheatre
September 16 – Oakland, CA @ Oracle Arena
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2004 KISS - The last of Paul Stanley's vocals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M49AGc6A89w
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Gene's mother passed away. She must have been a he'll of a fighter.
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Just in case anybody out there never heard the (unreleased) Wicked Lester album from 1972, here it is....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ort7Q2v2ijI
Sounds more like a cross between Jethro Tull & early Chicago than Kiss, though the vocals of Gene & Paul are obvious enough.
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FORD
Just in case anybody out there never heard the (unreleased) Wicked Lester album from 1972, here it is....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ort7Q2v2ijI
Sounds more like a cross between Jethro Tull & early Chicago than Kiss, though the vocals of Gene & Paul are obvious enough.
Given the time and the circumstances...really good. I was surprised!
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Here's another crazy blast from the KISS past... anybody remember the drunken homeless dude who pretended to be Peter Criss??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw85hRL4ZeE
And I have to say... the real Catman handled this shit a lot better than I probably would have.
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hain23x
Sounds like fun in KISS land...
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DavidLeeNatra
Sounds like fun in KISS land...
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Meh.
Peter's pissed off at all three of them, although somewhat less at Ace than he is at Gene and Paul.
Paul basically has no use for any of them anymore, though he's still trudging along with Gene/"Kiss" until...the current "farewell tour" du jour is over.
Gene is still in love with himself after all these years.
Ace alternately bitches about Paul and Gene inbetween the odd stints of doing one-off projects/gigs/appearances with them.
They're all pushing...what...70 years old? Maybe Criss is more than 70 years old now? Still bitching about ancient history and gripes from the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and early 2000s.
It's over and done with. The four of them haven't played together since...what...2001? Frehley hasn't been in the band since...what...2002? Criss last worked with them in...what...2003? Even their most recent working relationship is 15+ years ago. Who gives a fuck about who did what to who where when and how anymore?
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Terry
Meh.
Who gives a fuck about who did what to who where when and how anymore?
Obviously these four idiots.
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https://youtu.be/WzJ3vnJS2pk
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Terry
Meh.
Peter's pissed off at all three of them, although somewhat less at Ace than he is at Gene and Paul.
Paul basically has no use for any of them anymore, though he's still trudging along with Gene/"Kiss" until...the current "farewell tour" du jour is over.
Gene is still in love with himself after all these years.
Ace alternately bitches about Paul and Gene inbetween the odd stints of doing one-off projects/gigs/appearances with them.
They're all pushing...what...70 years old? Maybe Criss is more than 70 years old now? Still bitching about ancient history and gripes from the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and early 2000s.
It's over and done with. The four of them haven't played together since...what...2001? Frehley hasn't been in the band since...what...2002? Criss last worked with them in...what...2003? Even their most recent working relationship is 15+ years ago. Who gives a fuck about who did what to who where when and how anymore?
To his credit, Peter has been quiet for years (with exception to his book). He also doesn't care what KISS does these days and has no interest wanting to do anything with them ever again.
Ace, on the other hand, is a different story.
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Did y'all see the story about them trying to have Ace killed?
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The Cheapest Stuff is A-Hall I need.....:gun:
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LISten, I was talkin' to some guys backstage before about havin' Ace killed, and they wuz tellin' me there's a lotta you people out here tonight...
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To his credit, Peter has been quiet for years (with exception to his book). He also doesn't care what KISS does these days and has no interest wanting to do anything with them ever again.
Ace, on the other hand, is a different story.
That's true in terms of Peter. He hasn't had much to say since his book, and while he looked a bit visibly peeved at the RnRHoF induction - I'd suppose because of the whole bullshit pre-ceremony fiasco as to if the original lineup would play or not - Criss has retired from performances anyway: it's not like even if Gene and Paul wanted Criss back he could do a full set (much less a full tour) anyway.
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Watched some videos from the opening night. It's Milli KISSilli now. Paul's vocals are so obviously piped in, pathetic. Stage show looks interesting though.
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For your little KISS fans...an Ibanez Iceman ukulele!
https://www.ibanez.com/common/produc...0_BK_2Y_01.png
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DavidLeeNatra
Watched some videos from the opening night. It's Milli KISSilli now. Paul's vocals are so obviously piped in, pathetic. Stage show looks interesting though.
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Which, I mean...so many bands of all genres have been doing that live 'enhancement' thing for so long now that many people apparently either don't care or just accept it.
Me, I prefer to have whatever I'm hearing live be created solely by the musicians onstage in real time. Call it anachronistic, a dinosaur mentality/old school or whatever, but it's just part of what I want out of a live experience.