https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g98QAA25H5I
Date gone wrong.
It was nice of the attacker to grant Pelosi a time out to use the phone.
Can someone explain to me as a foreigner in a couple of sentences why she is so fucking hated by so many people?
What has she done to be so despised? It's a genuine question, from over here it doesn't seem like she has done a whole lot of stuff that looks bad in hindsight or that controversial one way or another???
Right wingers hate her because she's a woman with a lot of political power.
Left wingers don't like her all that much because she uses that power to enrich & maintain the corporatist control of the political system, rather than doing something useful with it.
I'm no fan of her husband either, who was most recently in the news for wrecking his Porsche in a drunk driving accident at the age of 82, and walking away from it.
Having said that, I wouldn't wish physical harm on either one of them, of course. And given the level of MAGAtt insanity going on in this country at the moment, I was actually shocked to find out that the security detail assigned to her home is only on duty when Nancy herself is home. She wasn't, in this case, which is why this wackjob got in the house so easily. Aside from an assault on her husband, it would have been arguably just as easy for a MAGAtt terrorist to sneak in the house and plant a bomb, that could have been set to go off when she was home. Pretty much a security failure all around, in my opinion.
This is supposedly the home the perp lives in. A Pride/weed flag? A sign that says "Berkeley stands united against hate?" Doesn't sound very MAGA to me.
"FBI visits Berkeley home tied to Pelosi beating suspect. The Victorian is dubbed a “hippie collective” by neighbors. We know that David DePape is a hemp jewelry-making nudist protester. Here’s what his house looks like."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgMAEdkU...jpg&name=large
And this, about the possibility of a break-in:
Which doesn't really explain how the Pelosi's garage door was vandalized a few years ago. It's always said that they live in a gated community.Quote:
"My law firm served a lawsuit against Paul Pelosi one time in SF after attempting to serve at other residences-Napa, Georgetown. They weren't home, but staff were, and multiple law enforcement officers were on the perimeter. Break-in is odd given this level of security." said Harmeet Dillon, Republican National Committee Chairman
The 911 call was for a wellness check, not a break-in.
Definitely not a "gated community". It's on a corner of two residential streets in San Francisco...
https://images.news9.com/kwtv/produc...0.617&fit=crop
Not sure if that's the case with their Napa Valley home, or whatever residence Nancy has in the DC area, but the house where this incident occured is definitely not behind any "bigly beautiful wall".
Who knows what the truth is. Certain media outlets jumped the gun accusing a right wing extremist of the act. Turns out the guy is a disturbed typical San Francisco left winger. Now there is speculation he was a gay lover of Mr. Pelosi. One thing for sure, San Francisco has gone downhill hard. No shortage of crime and freaks there.
She’s the typical corrupt politician who inside trades and gets away with it. Many like her in Washington DC but Nancy is House Speaker and very visible. She’s kind of become the poster child for congressional corruption. Tearing up the State of the Union speech was viewed as a horrible act of protocol. The House of Representatives represents the people of the United States and the president gives the House Speaker a copy of his speech because the House represents the people. Nancy tore our copy of the speech up in an immature gesture that she didn’t like the president. No other house speaker has ever lost it like that. Nancy is viewed as an unhinged, corrupt drunk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seshmeister
The Pelosi’s live on Nob Hill. I know the area well because I had relatives that lived in the area. There are no gated communities there. Nice older homes and buildings all on the street. I’m sure Nancy has good security around her but she wasn’t home. The home is right on the sidewalk with no perimeter fence. Anyways lot’s of bad reporting and holes in the stories being told. Lot’s of political bias. Everything from MAGA did it to Mr. Pelosi’s gay lover attacked him. Just more wierd junk to waste time speculating on.
The US Congress is a third of the government and the House Speaker represents half of that third so yeah the House Speaker is going to have good security; Especially in turbulent times like now and especially with a hated House Speaker. In fact the House Speaker is in charge of US Capitol security.
Hemp jewelry maker, 42, at nudist wedding who 'broke into 82-year-old Paul Pelosi's $6millionQuote:
Originally Posted by twonabomber
San Fran home in his UNDERWEAR,...
"The man who attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul with a hammer early Friday morning is
a former nudist from British Columbia who has struggled with drugs and posted crazed COVID
conspiracy theories, anti-Semitic rants, racist slurs and unhinged screeds on religion online.
"Police said they arrested hemp jewelry maker David DePape, 42, after he broke into the Pelosis'
$6million San Francisco home in at 2.27 am in his underwear and beat 82-year-old Paul Pelosi with
a hammer while shouting 'where's Nancy'."
Full story at:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-attacker.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seshmeister
Her name has constantly been repeated on a loop by conservatives to other conservatives to the point where the name itself has become a buzzword which symbolizes everything 'real' Americans stand against. Thus, in a word, the name Pelosi stands for pro-gay/pro-abortion/pro-immigration/pro-Obama/pro-Hillary/pro-Biden/pro-Big City/pro-tax/pro-Blue State. Plus, she's a woman AND she's from San Francisco, so she's obviously Satan's Mistress.
The reality is she's a run-of-the-mill politician. A big city democrat, undoubtedly comfortable in moneyed liberal circles. She helped push the ACA/Obamacare act through Congress, so to some she was a commie socialist of the worst order.
That pretty sums it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry
Former "life partner" on DePape:
Taub: "Well when I met him, he was only 20 years old, and he didn't have any experience in politics, and he was very much in alignment with my views and I've always been very progressive. I absolutely admire Nancy Pelosi."
https://abc7news.com/gypsy-taub-davi...eory/12396990/
Did you read the fucking police report?Quote:
Originally Posted by twonabomber
I've noticed a trend, and Republican politician gets attacked, it's MAGA's saving "why didn't Biden call sooner to offer his support?" A Dem gets attacked and it a conspiracy...
The only real question is how this fucking twat got hired as he had an online presence filled with Holocaust denial, neo-Nazi sympathies, and (you guessed it) conspiracy theories...
His own daughter called him "a monster".
Because MAGAs are sheep easily told what to believe as they have no critical thinking skills whatsoever....Quote:
Originally Posted by Seshmeister
I get really sick of hearing her name by local politicians in local races. She's in fucking Cali! Who gives a fuck, you can't vote against her anyways...
Um, are you fucking retarded? Seriously,. where do you read this shit. Takes five minutes to read an actual fucking news article rather than relying on innuendo and conspiracy retards. If you read the article, this guy has a daughter and had been in a relationship with Gypsy Taub, and nudity activist and his baby-mama. Apparently, just like you guys, he hated "transgender people". Does he get his man-card back yet?:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitro Express
Alleged assailant filled blog with delusional thoughts in days before Pelosi attack
By Aaron C. Davis and Dalton Bennett
October 29, 2022 at 7:45 p.m. EDT
David DePape is shown in Berkeley, Calif., in 2013. An intruder attacked and severely beat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband with a hammer in the couple's San Francisco home early Friday. Police discovered 82-year-old Paul Pelosi and the suspect, DePape, said Police Chief William Scott. (Michael Short/San Francisco Chronicle/AP)
Washington Post LINK & can listen HERE
The San Francisco Bay area man arrested in the attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband filled a blog a week before the incident with delusional thoughts, including that an invisible fairy attacked an acquaintance and sometimes appeared to him in the form of a bird, according to online writings under his name.
David DePape, 42, also published hundreds of blog posts in recent months sharing memes in support of fringe commentators and far-right personalities. Many of the posts were filled with screeds against Jews, Black people, Democrats, the media and transgender people.
During October, DePape published over 100 posts. While each loads, a reader briefly glimpses an image of a person wearing a giant inflatable unicorn costume, superimposed against a night sky. The photos and videos that followed were often dark and disturbing.
He published a drawing of the Devil kneeling and asking a caricature of a Jewish person to teach him the arts of “lying, deception, cheating and incitement.” Several contain lifelike images of rotting human flesh and blood, including a zombified Bill Gates and Hillary Clinton. Others depict headless bodies against bleak, dystopian landscapes.
Before those writings were removed Saturday, The Washington Post reviewed them, as well as gory photos, illustrations and videos on a website that DePape registered under his name in early August and that his daughter confirmed was his. Notably, the voluminous writings do not mention Pelosi. Police say DePape broke into the home Pelosi shares with her husband early Friday, yelled “Where is Nancy?” and attacked 82-year-old Paul Pelosi with a hammer.
Pelosi remained hospitalized Saturday, recovering from surgery to repair a skull fracture and serious injuries to his right arm and hand, according to the speaker’s office. San Francisco’s police chief and district attorney provided no update, but on Friday local, state and federal authorities said they were working together to investigate DePape’s motive.
A woman who identified DePape as her “father” said Friday that she was stunned by his arrest even though he was, she said, abusive to other members of the family. “I love my father,” Inti Gonzalez wrote in a statement posted to her website and later removed. “He did genuinely try to be a good person but the monster in him was always too strong for him to be safe to be around.”
“This attack on Nancy Pelosi’s husband came as a shock to me,” wrote Gonzalez, who is 21, according to her website. “I didn’t see this coming and there was no sign of the possibility from his end.” Gonzalez wrote she followed her father’s writing online but was not aware of the website he registered in August.
Reached by The Post before she issued the statement, Gonzalez declined to comment about DePape.
DePape grew up in British Columbia, a relative told CNN. He briefly drew public attention nearly a decade ago in San Francisco when he participated in a demonstration against a city ordinance banning public nudity. The protest was led by Gonzalez’s mother, Gypsy Taub, an outspoken nudity activist.
Videos posted on YouTube show that DePape was among a group of protesters marching through San Francisco’s Castro neighborhood for the 2013 demonstration.
On his blog, DePape wrote bitterly in recent months of his relationship with Taub, who also promoted debunked conspiracy theories on her own blog, including that 9/11 was an “inside job.” He accused Taub of manipulating her children to turn them against him.
Taub is serving a sentence for felony stalking and attempted child abduction, after prosecutors said she became fixated with a 14-year-old boy and attempted to kidnap him. She could not be reached for comment. Gonzalez told The Post that she had spoken with Taub and that Taub would be making a statement upon her release. She is eligible for parole in January.
Four days before the Pelosi attack, DePape posted on his website what he presented as a 2021 email to Gonzalez. In it, he told her he struggled with the urge to end his life as his relationship with Taub and her children was falling apart. “I was extremely suicidal, Mentally I would beg you guys daily to let me kill myself,” he wrote in the email. DePape cut off contact with Taub and her children after he was he was kicked out of their home and living in a car, according to his online account. He does not say when those events occurred.
The domain frenlyfrens.com was registered Aug. 8 under DePape’s name and to an address in Richmond, Calif., where a neighbor told a Post reporter he lived. The web address uses the phonetic spelling of “friend,” which has become a slang term adopted by many in the far right — a term that is sometimes written as an acronym for Far Right Ethno-Nationalist.
Reddit banned an openly anti-semitic group by the name /r/FrenWorld in 2019, saying it contained postings that glorified or encouraged violence. One cartoon featured repeatedly by members contained pictures of a frog character that has been appropriated by the far right. “Frens, sound the alarms!” one says. “Arm yourselves! The longnose is coming, the longnose is coming.”
Two weeks after registering the site, DePape’s first post was titled “Mary Poppins.” Amid the ongoing feud between Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) and Disney over the company’s criticism of the state’s law known by critics as the “don’t say gay” bill, the violent video depicted a SWAT team firing at Poppins.
Details of DePape’s everyday life in recent months are included in the postings that followed. He played video games at a nearby library and spent hours meditating, according to the writings. In another post, he shared an image of a fantasy miniature salamander he purchased on Etsy. He wrote that he was looking to purchase a fairy house on Etsy but was frustrated that the doors were painted and so could not be used by a fairy. “They have lots of fairy houses but NONE of them are MADE for fairies,” he wrote.
In late August, DePape became engrossed in the decision by Twitter to ban Jordan Peterson for his posts about transgender people. The Canadian psychologist turned conservative podcaster had once said that being transgender was comparable to “satanic ritual abuse.”
DePape published six posts in support of Peterson and then continued with his own caustic takes on transgender people, saying they should not be a protected group. “They were not BORN a freak. They are not INHERENTLY a freak threw no fault of their own. … They are CHOOSING to be FREAKS,” he wrote in one post.
In the last week of September, as the Justice Department filed a motion seeking to compel former Trump adviser Peter Navarro to return government emails, DePape blogged his take: “No evidence of election fraud. Any journalist saying that should be dragged straight out into the street and shot.”
DePape was also active on the message board 4chan, a site notorious for extremist discussion, posting memes and debating other anonymous users about his beliefs, according to his website. In an Oct. 24 post titled “Disinfo Shill Tactics,” he complained that he was a target of law enforcement he described as ‘paid shills’ trying to manipulate the message board. “I would come in and lay out the facts and so all the paid shills would jump on me. To try and suppress it,” he wrote.
That same day, DePape shared images from a construction site where he worked months ago. One highlighted a jackhammer with the number 33 on it, an apparent reference to a conspiracy theory about Freemasons and world control. A co-worker remarked he sounded like the now deceased right-wing radio personality Rush Limbaugh after referring to feminists as “feminazis” during a discussion on feminism, according to the account.
In another post on Oct. 24, four days before the attack on Pelosi, DePape shared images of a wooden birdhouse he said he had purchased for an invisible fairy he communicated with that had begun interfering with his life. “He appears in a form that makes sense in my reality because I can’t see fairies. He’ll do things to let me know its him and he o[f]ten appears as a bird,” he wrote.
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But you always say they're "ALL corrupt!" So WTF focus on her? Unless you live in California you can't vote otherwise. I'm pretty sure you've voted for other corrupt assholes in Jackson's Hole (sounds like a name of a gay bar)....Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitro Express
If you read the article, it sounds like you can really get along with this guy, he hates the Freemasons too!
Of course he is. There are monsters on both sides. Believing in fairies doesn't sound very MAGA, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickdfresh
A Trump supporter would feel comfortable and welcomed in Berkeley? And would be stupid enough to stay there?Quote:
Berkeley has been a Democratic stronghold in presidential elections since 1960, becoming one of the most Democratic cities in the country.
I agree there are monsters on both sides, the guy that opened fire on Republicans training for their baseball game s comes to mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by twonabomber
But you cannot deny that the vast majority of violence and intimidation is coming from the far-right and stoked by GOP in the house and senate....
And who knows if someone if for Trump in Berkely? I'm sure some are. There are sections of hard-right California actually7 like in Orange county (aptly named). But will he be some obnoxious douchebag MAGA-Man?
https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod...BXDCILCICQ.jpg
No one wants these types of assholes around them, But I've had some good discussions with Trump supporters or Republicans that don't like Trump in bars. No swinging of fists, but too much alcohol. I've met other side people I like and there are liberal people that are assholes I can't stand...
Kind of strawman crap, am trying to ignore this story but I haven't heard anyone saying Trump is responsible. The guy was a fucktard and there are Trump supporters that would creep out Trump himself, probably most actually because he really doesn't much of the plebian peasants that comprise a large section of his base unless their bank accounts are substantial...Quote:
Originally Posted by twonabomber
This guy wasn't MAGA at all... just some nudist hippie nutjob.
He's MANA... Make America Nekid Again...
Sesh, people despise Pelosi because she's an old time establishment politician that represents everything wrong with American politics. She should be the poster girl for term-limits...
I agree he wasn't MAGA, but he was a very right wing hippie with severe mental issues apparently and he was a big fan of conspiracies, antisemitism, hated Dem politicians, loved images of violence; so it's hard to say he was a peacenik either....
FORD more or less did in the thread title!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickdfresh
Sounds like he disliked everyone equally. So yeah, mental enough to act on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickdfresh
Well I can't account for Ford.
Yes there are crazed liberal lunatics:
https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/i...n-ew-1143a.jpg
But it's pretty clear that the vast majority of political violence/terror comes from the right. That's just basic statistics. The Tops mass shooter wasn't complaining about abortion rights....
Obviously I don't have access to the fool's voting records, so I couldn't tell you if he voted for the Orange Imbecile or not. But he seems to be consistent with the MAGAtt mentality on most issues.... Q-Anus conspiracies, antisemitism, antivaxx, transphobia, etc. You're not likely to find those traits among Bernie Sanders supporters or even most fans of "centrist" Democrats like Pelosi.Quote:
Originally Posted by twonabomber
Jackson Hole and Teton County is a Democrat county. The big money here is the Rockefeller family. They own a shit load of land. So just shut up. You know nothing about this place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickdfresh
Very hard to get term limits because the people who stay in office their whole adult lives and get rich have to vote term limits into law. In theory voting is the term limits and at the end of the day the voting public are to blame. People really do get the government they deserve.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZahZoo
Musk posted then deleted something similar apparently which means you guys are sharing an information bubble at this point? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by twonabomber
It's so weird how the algorithms are feeding us stuff not just on social media but google too - clear your cookies! Everyone try and read stuff from places you don't align with at least 10% of the time.
Well that goes for trying to change anything in the whole fucking utterly flawed constitutional systems in the US and the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitro Express
Seen on another forum. I don't use Twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seshmeister
Whatever the politics you have to admit it's a bit fucking harsh to immediately assume that the reason an 82 year old married man had his skull smashed in with a hammer in his home in the middle of the night is was because he was fucking his 40 years younger hetro attacker. :D
Please consider what other shit you are being hit with on the internet - it's not a right or left wing thing it's happening to all of us...
It's not about what his kink is, it's about pinning blame to a certain group in an attempt to garner sympathy and outrage a week before the election.
CNN doesn't even have it on the top third of their page tonight. Something not entirely right about the story.
Do yourself a favor... go to a local tattoo shop and have them label your hands... left and right. This will save you cognitive confusion for the rest of your life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickdfresh
As it has been pointed out in this thread... Berkeley political nutjobs are the furthest from conservative right wing activists you'll find. Many are so fucked up even left wing libertarians wouldn't want to be associated with those oxygen thieves.
He clearly was a right wing nutjob, read some of his commentary. I don't there is a group of Berkeley police that monitors everyone's political convictions. Did you live near there or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZahZoo
Just bizarre conspiracy shit and this will have no bearing in the election....Quote:
Originally Posted by twonabomber