My Thoughts on Old No. 7

[Hardrock69]

This is a copy of a PM I sent to David Flamma, who was kind enough to send me this:


Got it today.

I was able to compare it to two other versions:

1. The BTB version (previous record holder for cleanest version) that was available for download at Van Halen Cafe a couple of months ago...

2. My VHS version.


So.....my conclusion is this:

I actually think the BTB version is better for a couple of reasons. First of course is all the titles, the crowd shots and the pre-concert backstage stuff. Secondly, (and this is something everyone else noticed) the BTB version seems slightly washed out. And in my case, I do not have a direct copy of the BTB version, only the downloaded version, which suffers a bit visually from the compression.

So....the only thing necessary to fix the washed outedness of the BTB version is to reencode the video and up the contrast a bit, and maybe increase the color saturation. By doing that, it would be just about identical in appearance to Old No. 7.

However, I am not necessarily making any comparison in sound quality, as they both appear to be pretty similar.

Now...the other comparison is to the VHS tape I have.

Considering this was broadcast on TV, I must say the VHS version I have looks way sharper and life like than either of the digital versions I have.

The only negatives are that the sound is not quite as great (which could easily be fixed) and there is some visual noise as this is a lightly generated video (I would estimate this is no more than 4 or 5 generations from whatever master was used).


Overall though, yes I must say the VHS loses to both digital versions due to overall quality, but the BTB version actually nudges out the Old No. 7 by a hair because of the additional content.

Thus endeth the review.


Dammit! I wish to fuck that Deadward would quit sticking Smoking Loon bottles up his ass trying to become even drunker than even HE thought possible, and release this.

Actually, I just happened to think of something.

I know of a source for this....and the source would have access to the masters.

Hmmmmm.......I am gonna have to do some checking.

I might be able to score the ultimate coup.....

Oh well.

Fuck Deadhead.

That fucker is useless anymore, and it seems we are left to our own devices as far as seeking out video of the CVH glory days.

[Hardrock69]

Hey does anyone have high-res versions of DVD cover art for Old No. 7??

[Hardrock69]

Though of course, we are fortunate to have this at all...

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by Hardrock69
Hey does anyone have high-res versions of DVD cover art for Old No. 7??

I can get you this in high-res.

<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9669/831lk.jpg" border="0" width="650" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a>

[Cato]

my first impression on Old No.7 was like this.....

"wow what a shitty menu!! this author must be a 4 year old, who has no sense of art!!"

um, I also think the BTB version is better as well. it's being attractively packaged....

[Hardrock69]

Yes, the BTB version at least appears like a professional production.

Hmmm....perhaps the answer might be to graft Old No. 7 onto the BTB version and reauthor it.

I hate to say this..but best of both worlds?

[Hardrock69]

Here is another question...was this at San Bernadino? Or Devore?

I see two different cities listed in connection with this show..

[Hardrock69]

Hey Rustoffa, that is a start....though somehow I wonder if maybe getting some high res photos from the show might be the way to go, and just creating some entirely new cover art.

Was it CVH or Dave selling Old No. 7 t-shirts?

Seems I remember some band selling t-shirts that looked like The Jack Daniels label...

[Hardrock69]

I'll be damned....I found the real cover!

Instead of typing into Google "Van Halen Old No. 7" Or "VAN HALEN US FESTIVAL" or some shit I just typed in "Old No. 7" to see about getting some Jack Black labels to use, and here is what I found at vhboots:





Now notice the same discrepency I was asking about: The back image says "Devore, CA" yet the VHboots entry says "San Bernardino, CA"


Another probelm is that there are no photos whatsoever on the cover from the US Festival...

I think I am gonna haveta create my own after all.

And lastly, the covers are for CD-R, and do not include listings for any bonus material.

Yup! Gonna have to create some new covers for sure.

[Hardrock69]

Here is a request likely to get some responses:

Anyone got a hi-res scan of the Jack Black label?

I mean at least 600 X 800 or something like that.


And I need some hi-res pix from the US Festival (not screen caps).

[Romeo Delight]

Re: My Thoughts on Old No. 7

Originally posted by Hardrock69


I know of a source for this....and the source would have access to the masters.

Hmmmmm.......I am gonna have to do some checking.

I might be able to score the ultimate coup.....

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This must be done HR!!!

[mewisemagic]

Thanks DavesPA and source!!I loved the Old #7 version and was a great addition to my collection,I cant believe the negative response that this got from some people.

Thanks again for the effort,i can only imagine the time that you must have invested in putting it up!!

[Hardrock69]

WOOT!

[Romeo Delight]

Originally posted by mewisemagic
Thanks DavesPA and source!!I loved the Old #7 version and was a great addition to my collection,I cant believe the negative response that this got from some people.

Thanks again for the effort,i can only imagine the time that you must have invested in putting it up!!

I cherish my old #7 version, but appreciate the BTB version as well.

I just downloaded the BTB and there are some great extras

I also really appreciate the audio on #7

No one is being negative, just giving opinions.

[Hardrock69]

Same here.

Not complaining at all.

Just glad to have this shit.