Since no one else has the balls to!

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And all this combined was nothing more than a pimple on a nats ass when compared to just one week during WWII.

Get over yourself, you're not part of some great liberal generation movement.
Shit like this has been happening for a long time.

I guess you are one of those people that raise's a flag in one hand and then want's to sign a bill reducing the amount of funding the miltitary gets.

Talk about being a hyprocrit.

WTF are you even talking about now?

You know, you have a habit of telling people what they must think, when you can't even compose your OWN thoughts into coherent sentences.

You get your facts wrong, and when presented with evidence, you fall back on the "I'm too busy with my businesses to look it up" bullshit.

And it's hypcorite, with an E, moron. That's the 3rd time you've posted that, so you can't claim typo.


Look, you're a moron. You don't know what you're talking about, and you can deny it all you want, I KNOW you listen to Rush/Hannity/Savage all day long.

You spout "Liberal Elite" without even know what you mean.

It's a sad day when the Republican Party is represented in here by the likes of you.

At least Warham, Brian, Catherdal knew what the fuck they were talking about.

Jesus on a Triscuit, you're just plain dumb. Boring, repetitive, and dumb.

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There you go again with your links and facts.......

Since you seem to be so good at digging up facts. I figure you will just look up the shit to prove me wrong anyway.

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That may be true, but Kennedy didn't listen to all the people saying that America would get stuck in Vietnam .

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID.

YOU SAID KENNEDY GO US INTO VIET NAM



Or am I "twisting your words again? Let's check:

I'm trying to see you're point of view. If you are basing you're opinion on the Iraq war, didn't Kennedy get us into Vietnam, which was way worse than what's happening now.

l.

Idiot.

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Since you seem to be so good at digging up facts. I figure you will just look up the shit to prove me wrong anyway.

It's not that hard.

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That may be true, but Kennedy didn't listen to all the people saying that America would get stuck in Vietnam and kept pouring in money and troops. Kinda like how Bush didn't back down from his stance on Iraq.

As bad as this may sound, Kennedy got lucky. If he had not been assassinated, he would have been sharing the spot with bush as the worst president in history.

Nope.......

I was therefore excited and intrigued when, two years ago, a potentially definitive document on JFK’s Vietnam plans turned up during the processing of the papers of Evelyn Lincoln, his personal secretary. The item in question, a crumpled onionskin carbon copy, contained the typed transcript of a tape-recorded telephone conversation. Hundreds of pages of these transcripts are conserved in the library’s archives, and their appearance and format are immediately recognizable. The date, October 1, 1963, is in Evelyn Lincoln’s handwriting, and the typed text reads:

President: Yes, Secretary Vance.

Vance: We would like to come over this noon, General Wheeler and I, to discuss this proposed withdrawal plan.

President: I’ll be right here.

Vance: Fine, sir, I’ll see you then.

Why did I suspect that this document might be very important? First, there is the date: Robert McNamara has written that President Kennedy, at a National Security Council meeting on October 2, 1963, the day after this conversation apparently occurred, decided to pull U.S. forces out of Vietnam by the end of 1965 and to start the process by withdrawing a thousand troops before the end of 1963.

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Inconclusive but Kennedy would have withdrawn.....before the end of his Presidency.

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Why is this - TROLL - still allowed to post here .

Because he's a damn good TROLL!

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BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID.

YOU SAID KENNEDY GO US INTO VIET NAM



Or am I "twisting your words again? Let's check:





Idiot.

Dipshit i didn't state that as a fact but more as a question. Even if Truman was the first to get involved with the French about Vietnam. It was Kennedy that didn't listen to all the people who said America would get stuck there, the same way Bush was told about Iraq.

See you are the biggest hypocrite with an E for the proffessor here. You want to trash Bush and his ways, yet when Kennedy had the same mindset it's ok in you're book.

Talk about an idiot, you are the poster boy for that.

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It was Kennedy that didn't listen to all the people who said America would get stuck there, the same way Bush was told about Iraq.

See you are the biggest hypocrite with an E for the proffessor here. You want to trash Bush and his ways, yet when Kennedy had the same mindset it's ok in you'r book.

Talk about an idiot, you are the poster boy for that.

Nope reread http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=35

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Jesus on a Triscuit, you're just plain dumb.

A triscuit?

Why not Jesus on a Disneyland Teacups Ride.. why not Jesus on the Moon Jesus..

Bush lined the pockets of his dad's crony's with no-bid contracts but at least they provided products and services.

The jealous Democrats now all want "in" on the endzone rush for the Taxpayer's money, once they seen Bushes run the tab up 3 trillion they wont' be satisfied till they get "their" 3 trillion.

Register and vote Independant!

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Nope reread http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=35

I don't have to reread. The proof is that Kennedy sent troops to Vietnam with people around him saying it was a bad idea. The same way Bush stuck by his decision on Iraq.

Like i said, the article doesn't prove anything. Kennedy may have wanted to pull troops by 1963 but that's unproven. Who knows what would he would have had to do if he wouldn't have been assassinated.

the moral of the point i'm trying to make is that Kennedy did things his way because he thought they were just and right. the same thing that you guys are grilling Bush for.

This is the reason for me calling some of you hypocrite's with a E for the proffessor.

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Dipshit i didn't state that as a fact but more as a question. Even if Truman was the first to get involved with the French about Vietnam. It was Kennedy that didn't listen to all the people who said America would get stuck there, the same way Bush was told about Iraq.

See you are the biggest hypocrite with an E for the proffessor here. You want to trash Bush and his ways, yet when Kennedy had the same mindset it's ok in you're book.

Talk about an idiot, you are the poster boy for that.

Nice backpeddle, idiot.

in you're book?
proffessor?

Who is the idiot?

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the moral of the point i'm trying to make is

.

The wha?

[kwame k]

Register and vote Independant!

How about registering in remedial spelling....Si-Gar.....remember February is Black History Month

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I don't have to reread. The proof is that Kennedy sent troops to Vietnam with people around him saying it was a bad idea. The same way Bush stuck by his decision on Iraq.

Like i said, the article doesn't prove anything. Kennedy may have wanted to pull troops by 1963 but that's unproven. Who knows what would he would have had to do if he wouldn't have been assassinated.

the moral of the point i'm trying to make is that Kennedy did things his way because he thought they were just and right. the same thing that you guys are grilling Bush for.

This is the reason for me calling some of you hypocrite's with a E for the proffessor.

Dude, you're wrong again! Kennedy is a horrible example.......he listened to his advisor's. Yes, The Bay of Pigs made him not listen to the old established guard but not his inner circle .......if you read that article he even says he made a mistake by not listening to his advisor's!!!!!!!!

Tape recordings recently released by the Kennedy Library have only deepened the mystery, revealing, for example, that JFK expressed shock over the murder of President Ngo Dinh Diem of South Vietnam and accepted “a great deal of responsibility” for sending a badly drafted message suggesting the coup to Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge: “I should not have given my consent to it without a roundtable conference in which [Secretary of Defense Robert] McNamara and [Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen. Maxwell] Taylor could have presented their views.” Kennedy also remarked, “Are we gonna withdraw, are we gonna say we’re gonna get out?” and suggested that “we will need a public and [Capitol] Hill position about what we are going to do about withdrawing our aid.”

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Again with the facts and the links.......

YOUR A BIG HYPOCRIT