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    Cool Return of the FORD Beercyclopedia thread

    Some of you may recall my ode to Winter Beers that I started over at Von's board last year before the return of the Army.

    Well, in order to give Hil's forum something different from all the Katydid/Fab threads, here's a truly worthwile subject matter, BEER.

    And just good stuff, of course. You will never get a bad beer recommendation from FORD, of this you may be certain.

    Our first selection comes to us from the Anderson Valley Brewing Company of Boonville CA. Somehow I entirely missed Boonville during my recent travels down the coast, but their beer was everywhere, and now that I have found a local distributor, I'll be bringing you a few of their selections, as well as other quality beers from across the globe.....



    BARNEY FLATS OATMEAL STOUT
    "A stout that fondles the mind and caresses the soul."
    Charlie Papazian; President, Association of Brewers


    "I love watching people's reaction when I give them one for a try. Their faces just light up with pleasure."
    Lars Gilstrom - Woodland, CA

    With its deep, dark brown-black color, thick, full-bodied, velvety-smooth mouth feel, mocha character, and, strong yet subtle hop bite, Barney Flats Oatmeal Stout is one of the thickest, richest, and most complex stouts on the market today. In 1990, it became our first gold medal winner, at the Great American Beer Festival. Barney Flats was judged so superior to the other stouts that no other medals were even awarded in its catagory. Try it and see why Stewart Kallen described it as, "Slippery, creamy, dark, and sweet as a Pacific May morning," in his book, The 50 Greatest Beers in the World

    Barney Flats Oatmeal Stout Most recently won the Silver Medal at the 2004 World Beer Cup®, as well as several other medals . Click the blue ribbon to see the entire list.

    As with all of our products, Barney Flats Oatmeal Stout is never sterile filtered nor heat pasteurized, and should be stored in refrigeration. However, to fully enjoy its rich and complex flavor, it should be served between 40° and 45°F

    5.7 % Alcohol by Volume

    "It's not just shy sluggin gorms neemer."



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    Any chance this fine brew is available in Canada, FORD? I love good and different blends.
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    Originally posted by Rikk
    Any chance this fine brew is available in Canada, FORD? I love good and different blends.
    Sadly, I doubt it ....

    For one thing, I had to hunt for it to find it here, as I said.

    And if the Ontario beer stores (if it's government operated there as well, I'm guessing) are anything like the BC version, then your selection of American beers is probably limited to the big mass produced brands.

    Actually, I just confirmed with the brewer's site at www.avbc.com and it seems they don't sell outside of the US. Sorry.

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    Let's keep things rolling with last weekend's selection, this one from the local area.....


    Dick's Imperial Stout

    Deep and malty. Large quantities of specialty malts give this ale such depth of flavor. Caramel, brown, and chocolate malts, and black barley are all included.

    Magnum hops are added during the boil to balance the substantial maltiness and Willamette hops provide a nice spicy finish. Our house yeast ferments this beautiful black beer.

    Available in 12 oz. & 22 oz. bottles
    6% ABW OG = 1.073 TG = 1.018


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    Hoegarden? I had a few of those recently and they were pretty good.

    Those dark stout beers are tough bro.
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    Here's an interesting one I found in Northern CA, but haven't seen elsewhere yet


    Hemp Ale

    Affiliated with the Nectar Ales experience through shared origins at Humboldt Brewing Company, Hemp Ale is a one-of-a-kind brew that boasts a rich profile and unique herb-accented flavor that is attributable to the incorporation of hemp seeds into the brewing process. A Gold Medal winner at the 1999 and 2000 California State Fair.


    Now of course they say that there's no THC in Hemp seeds so you can't possibly get "stoned" from this beer, but it seemed to have some relaxing properties in it that aren't found in a typical ale. Which isn't exactly a bad thing if you just finished driving the narrow as fuck Highway 1 behind a bunch of old farts hauling 5th wheelers

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    Originally posted by rustoffa
    Hoegarden? I had a few of those recently and they were pretty good.

    Those dark stout beers are tough bro.
    I think I saw that last night at the same place where I picked up the Barney Flats. I might have to try that. I'll report back after my reserach

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    Originally posted by FORD
    Here's an interesting one I found in Northern CA, but haven't seen elsewhere yet


    Hemp Ale

    Affiliated with the Nectar Ales experience through shared origins at Humboldt Brewing Company, Hemp Ale is a one-of-a-kind brew that boasts a rich profile and unique herb-accented flavor that is attributable to the incorporation of hemp seeds into the brewing process. A Gold Medal winner at the 1999 and 2000 California State Fair.


    Now of course they say that there's no THC in Hemp seeds so you can't possibly get "stoned" from this beer, but it seemed to have some relaxing properties in it that aren't found in a typical ale. Which isn't exactly a bad thing if you just finished driving the narrow as fuck Highway 1 behind a bunch of old farts hauling 5th wheelers

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    Some odd beers make you shaky. Some just relax you. This sounds like a beer for me. Hemp beer...great concept. Of course, another beer the government-run Canadian beer stores won't go near.

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    FORD, not that I would likely drink any, but I would have thought that you would have written a small review rather than just the gulps...

    I mean, what's the difference between the first and the second ones ??

    They both got four gulps...

    I'm not complaining, I would just like to hear your thoughts...

    Like, something like this for instance.. After 5-6 of these, I was checking to see if the BCE was looking into my window... that sort of thing...

    Seriously though dude...

    How 'bout it ??


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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    FORD, not that I would likely drink any, but I would have thought that you would have written a small review rather than just the gulps...

    I mean, what's the difference between the first and the second ones ??

    They both got four gulps...

    I'm not complaining, I would just like to hear your thoughts...

    Like, something like this for instance.. After 5-6 of these, I was checking to see if the BCE was looking into my window... that sort of thing...

    Seriously though dude...

    How 'bout it ??


    I guess maybe I should have explained that the "gulps" were on a 5 point scale. So the stouts were 4 out of 5 and the Hemp ale got the top score because of it's mysterious relaxing effects & unique concept.

    Well, not entirely unique... I understand there's a Hemp-based Porter in Montana called "Olde Bongwater", but I may not get around to that one until next summer's road trip (it's only a local brand )

    And the stouts only rated a little lower because nothing beats Obsidian Stout.

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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    FORD, not that I would likely drink any, but I would have thought that you would have written a small review rather than just the gulps...

    I mean, what's the difference between the first and the second ones ??

    They both got four gulps...

    I'm not complaining, I would just like to hear your thoughts...

    Like, something like this for instance.. After 5-6 of these, I was checking to see if the BCE was looking into my window... that sort of thing...

    Seriously though dude...

    How 'bout it ??


    I'll take a stab at it....

    Coors:
    It's interesting that this particular brew was an integral part in the legendary "Smokey and the bandit" film.

    The plot revolved around this insane race to procure a sizable sum of "Coors" for a bounty of sorts. It involved maniacal Trans Am's and wheel-screeching semi-tractor trailers.

    That being said, after tasting "Coors" I would use the aforementioned maniacal Trans Am to get me the hell away from the absolute worst tasting Donner party piss water one could ever imagine. One taste of this rocky mountain runoff and Draino seems like a chaser.

    After the Draino chaser, I'd drive the wheel-screeching semi-tractor trailer through the front doors of the brewery and die.

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    Yeah, the mysterious relaxing effect has me curious, but I'll leave that for the non-addicts on the board...

    I was kinda expecting a little description regarding taste though...

    Shaddup ELVIS! Stop being so fucking picky!



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    Man, I said I didn't want shit beers reviewed here, but that one just works. And if you ever actually drive by the Coors brewery, it smells like somebody died in there. And seeing as I live near the now defunct Olympia brewery, I can say for a fact that crappy beer doesn't neccessarily mean the brewery smells rancid. I actually miss the smells from that place, if not the beer. Oh, and the 8:00 whistle which let me know I was late for work.

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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    Yeah, the mysterious relaxing effect has me curious, but I'll leave that for the non-addicts on the board...

    I was kinda expecting a little description regarding taste though...

    Shaddup ELVIS! Stop being so fucking picky!


    Taste? It was a spicy kinda ale. Somewhat like the Sierra Nevada winter ale. Didn't taste like a bong hit or anything like that.

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    I remember going to a concert via road trip several years ago and stopping for beer...

    I was a Heineken man...

    My friends bought a case of Coors to split between the two of them. I got a 12 pack of hot Heineken.. the only Heineken they had...

    They said I was crazy and asked me why I didn't get some cold beer...

    Who was crazy.. me or them ???



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    You....

    And not because of the warm beer....
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    Warm Heineken over cold Coors? I think I'd still go with the Heiny, even though I'd risk puking by drinking it warm.

    WWED

    (what would Eddie do?)

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    Originally posted by FORD
    Warm Heineken over cold Coors?

    (what would Eddie do?)
    Blame Roth????

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    ..and go with the warm Heiney...



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    I've been down the hot Heineken road myself.
    I was helping a friend move and he was like "I'll get some good beer".
    So I guess he was going the extra mile and bought a case of Heineken from a stack on the floor.

    It was kinda nasty at first, but after awhile it made carrying things better.

    That's a distant memory though....NFL kickoff weekend?
    Are you kiddin' me?

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    Originally posted by FORD
    Warm Heineken over cold Coors? I think I'd still go with the Heiny, even though I'd risk puking by drinking it warm.

    WWED

    (what would Eddie do?)
    Coors is a good beer. I can put at least 12 away without feeling bloated. Heiny makes you feel bloated after 2. Yuck. Besides, look what it did for Edwardo.
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    Originally posted by Big Troubles
    Coors is a good beer. I can put at least 12 away without feeling bloated. Heiny makes you feel bloated after 2. Yuck. Besides, look what it did for Edwardo.
    Coors must be a Hell of a lot different in Canada if you can say that with a straight face.

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    actually I think it is. lol Its brewed here with the Molson plant. I can drink Canadian, Bud and Coors. Sometimes Coronas, never Blue...Always in bottles!

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    Originally posted by FORD
    Coors must be a Hell of a lot different in Canada if you can say that with a straight face.
    LMAO!



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    Originally posted by FORD
    Man, I said I didn't want shit beers reviewed here, but that one just works. And if you ever actually drive by the Coors brewery, it smells like somebody died in there. And seeing as I live near the now defunct Olympia brewery, I can say for a fact that crappy beer doesn't neccessarily mean the brewery smells rancid. I actually miss the smells from that place, if not the beer. Oh, and the 8:00 whistle which let me know I was late for work.
    Good ole Oly. It was the Artesian water that made it. Wayne Cody bottlegged me a 1/2 rack of Oly 22 years ago.

    As for my easy local pick, you just can't go wrong with a Red Hook IPA.

    And though FORD will step on me for reviewing a non-beer, if you're ever in the southwest, and get the chance to find this on tap [NOT the bottled] you must try ACE Pear Cider Mother's Milk!!!
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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    I remember going to a concert via road trip several years ago and stopping for beer...

    I was a Heineken man...

    My friends bought a case of Coors to split between the two of them. I got a 12 pack of hot Heineken.. the only Heineken they had...

    They said I was crazy and asked me why I didn't get some cold beer...

    Who was crazy.. me or them ???


    Considering it was a Stryper / Amy Grant concert, I'd say the whole car was nuts

    BTW, we have this stuff in the Pacific Northwest we like to call ICE [it makes stuff like beer get cold]

    i'll send you the recipe

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    Originally posted by LoungeMachine
    Good ole Oly. It was the Artesian water that made it. Wayne Cody bottlegged me a 1/2 rack of Oly 22 years ago.

    As for my easy local pick, you just can't go wrong with a Red Hook IPA.

    And though FORD will step on me for reviewing a non-beer, if you're ever in the southwest, and get the chance to find this on tap [NOT the bottled] you must try ACE Pear Cider Mother's Milk!!!
    Not at all.... FORD appreciates a good cider now and then. Not a big pear fan though. Unfortunately, most of the REAL cider is only available on the other side of the Canadian Border. BC Growers' Granny Smith Apple Cider is the shit!

    Most stateside "cider" is just a flavored malt beverage (a.k.a. a wine cooler) and the same with all the drinks named after liquor comapnies, but not actually containing the booze. Up in Canada, a Jack Daniels Lynchburg Lemonade actually has Jack Daniels in it, and Mike's Hard Lemonade is actually "hard" (mixed with vodka)

    Even so, I'll take the cider over that crap everytime when I'm up there.

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    Originally posted by LoungeMachine
    Considering it was a Stryper / Amy Grant concert, I'd say the whole car was nuts

    BTW, we have this stuff in the Pacific Northwest we like to call ICE [it makes stuff like beer get cold]

    i'll send you the recipe
    Actually it was Sabbath in 2000 and I was not worried about ice...



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    Amy Grant opened for Sabbath?

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    haha...

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    Originally posted by FORD
    And if you ever actually drive by the Coors brewery, it smells like somebody died in there.
    No kidding, just one whiff of that place will keep you from drinking Rocky Mountain Pisswater for life.

    I could tell you a story about their grain and hop storage, but it's the dinner hour... nuff said.
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    Originally posted by FORD
    Most stateside "cider" is just a flavored malt beverage (a.k.a. a wine cooler) and the same with all the drinks named after liquor comapnies, but not actually containing the booze. Up in Canada, a Jack Daniels Lynchburg Lemonade actually has Jack Daniels in it, and Mike's Hard Lemonade is actually "hard" (mixed with vodka).
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    I only like 23 beers out of over 200 different beers I have to drink to get on the wall of fame at the beer emporium I frequent. I can hardly stand to drink domestic beers nowadays as a result. I like New Belgium's Sunshine Wheat or Fat Tire for my beer of choice these days.
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    Anyone ever tried Mississippi Mud out of Utica, New York? It's a nice, hearty black n' tan. I believe it to be smoother than Sierra Nevada. I give it 4 beers and a shot of jack.

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    Originally posted by Bonzo
    Anyone ever tried Mississippi Mud out of Utica, New York? It's a nice, hearty black n' tan. I believe it to be smoother than Sierra Nevada. I give it 4 beers and a shot of jack.
    I actually did try one of those a few years back. It wasn't too bad, but I'd rather get the Guinness & Harp and mix my own if I'm looking for a black & tan. Haven't seen that stuff around here in a few years. I guess the jug bottles weren't big sellers?

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