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    This week, it's back to Boonville CA, courtesy of our friends at the Anderson Valley Brewing Company.....



    Hop Ottin’ IPA is as hoppy as they come. The name means "hard working hops", in Boontling , and that tells it all. Generous additions of high-alpha Pacific Northwest hops added during a vigorous boil, plus traditional dry hopping, with whole hop cones, give this ale a delicious citrus aroma, and an intense hoppy bite. This IPA is a hop lover’s dream.

    Hop Ottin' IPA most recently received a Silver Medal from the 2001 World Beer Championships , in the India Pale Ale category, and has several other medals as well. Click the blue ribbon to see the entire list.

    As with all of our products, Hop Ottin’ IPA is never sterile filtered nor heat pasteurized, and should be stored in refrigeration. However, to fully enjoy its rich and complex flavor, it should be served between 40° and 45°F

    7.0 % Alcohol by Volume

    "Hop Ottin' bites like a can-kicky bluetail."


    FORD's comments: Very competititve with last week's selection from Eel River (also a a Northern California brand - makes me wish I had extended my recent road trip)

    I'll give this one the edge just because of the original name and the great design on the label graphics, obviously aimed at the Deadheads in the audience.

    If the BCE steals the election, Northern Cal is definitely seceding as part of Cascadia! They got too many decent beers down there to leave to Herr Gropenator

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    Looks like winter beer season is on it's way..... full reports to follow

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    Hey Dave, as far as that Hoegarden goes, it's pretty pale and light and probably not for someone who likes as much flavor as you seem to do.

    I tried Warsteiner Oktoberfest tonight. It was fairly tasty. I'd think you would like it. Also drank a Taj Mahal from India and Peroni from Italy. The Taj Mahal was kind of bitter and I wouldn't recommend it at all. Peroni was fairly smooth, but after the other 2, it's hard to say.
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    Originally posted by diamondD
    Hey Dave, as far as that Hoegarden goes, it's pretty pale and light and probably not for someone who likes as much flavor as you seem to do.

    I tried Warsteiner Oktoberfest tonight. It was fairly tasty. I'd think you would like it. Also drank a Taj Mahal from India and Peroni from Italy. The Taj Mahal was kind of bitter and I wouldn't recommend it at all. Peroni was fairly smooth, but after the other 2, it's hard to say.
    You can find those in Little Rock??

    I'll look for them. Believe it or not, some of the best beer selections around here are at a Chevron mini mart of all places. Best thing an oil company related business ever did

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    And now, for this weekend's selection.... our first Winter Beer entry in the new thread....



    Winterhook winter ale is the seasonal companion to Redhook's Sunrye and Nut Brown ales. It is offered annually during the fall and winter months.

    Winterhook's popularity has been a result of its drinkable style, and clean, dry, roasty palate which is meant to accompany hearty feasts and fine friends. This delicious beer gets its distinctive flavor from the brewmaster's combination of two different malts: Carmel 50/60 from England and a Munich malt. The hop varieties of Northern Brewer and Cascade offer an aromatic complement to the toasty barley flavors. The color is a pleasing deep ruby.

    Winterhook ale is excellent with holiday dinners, especially turkey and trimmings.

    Grain Variety:
    Caramel 50/60 from England and Munich

    Hop Variety:
    Northern Brewer and Cascade

    Color:
    Deep ruby (28.9 SRM)

    Bitterness Units:
    29.2 IBU

    Alcohol % Weight:
    4.77


    Alcohol % Volume:
    6.11

    Original Gravity:
    1.05918

    Calories / 12 oz.:
    190

    Carbohydrates / 12 oz.:
    Unspecified

    Package Format:
    Bottle and keg

    Brewed Since:
    1985, seasonal


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    Have you tried the new Kerry/Edwards beer yet?

    Its incredibly flat and smells like shit.
    Nobody seems to be buying it, either.

    I hear after this November, it'll be off the market
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    After an unfortunate false alarm last week, I'm proud to announce....

    Snow Cap Ale is back!!



    Get Snowed In
    A rich, full-bodied winter warmer crafted in the British tradition of holiday beers. This deep mahogany colored brew balances complex fruit flavors with a refreshingly smooth texture, making Snow Cap a highly drinkable and desirable cold weather companion.

    Original Gravity: 1.071
    Alcohol By Volume: 7.00%
    Malts: 2-Row Barley, Caramel, Chocolate Malt
    Hops: Willamette, East Kent Goldings
    Availability: Mid October - January
    Best Paired With: Shellfish, rich game and even rich chocolatey desserts

    Silver Medal, World Beer Championships, "Strong Ale", 1998


    Easily my favorite of the winter brews from the Washington state microbreweries. I could drink this one year around. Maybe the fact that it's only around 3 months out of the year makes it taste that much better?

    And fuck waiting for the cold weather...This tastes just as good even though it's still sunny and in the upper 60's this week

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    Ford, have you ever tasted any pre-Prohibition recipe beers? There's a brewery here that makes some that I want to try and I'm wondering if I should treat myself to a birthday gift or not.
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    Originally posted by Ally_Kat
    Ford, have you ever tasted any pre-Prohibition recipe beers? There's a brewery here that makes some that I want to try and I'm wondering if I should treat myself to a birthday gift or not.
    The only brewery around here that would have been that old is out of business now... and that was the Olympia Brewery, which was a mass production facility and I'm reasonably sure they weren't using their original recipie. Sounds like an interesting idea though if you can find a brewery that still kicks out the old school.

    Now on the other hand, if you can get your hands on some authentic German beer (I ain't talking Lowenbrau here) that might very well be an old school recipie, as some of those breweries have been around for centuries.

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    Here's a place on Staten Island with an impressive selection of German beers

    http://www.killmeyers.com/menu.asp?main=80&m=141

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    The Brooklyn Brewery does it, and I've never heard of a pre-Prohibition recipe before. Got my curiosity. The Black Chocolate Stout really took my interest. That and the Pumpkin Ale.

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    Pumpkin Ale never did much for me personally, but it's a great marketing idea for Rothtober. Of course it's hard to go wrong with a stout. Especially one that's 8.5% alcohol and has been reviewed by Michael Jackson

    heee heee heee

    I'm gonna have to track down some of that shit. Hopefully I won't have to go all the way to NYC to do it.

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    BTW, I see Rudy all over their "history " page. Does he actually drink the stuff, or are they just using his face for publicity?

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    I'm not too sure. I know he was apart of them openning up in the location they are at now. Don't know if that has part or not.

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    Originally posted by FORD
    Pumpkin Ale never did much for me personally, but it's a great marketing idea for Rothtober. Of course it's hard to go wrong with a stout. Especially one that's 8.5% alcohol and has been reviewed by Michael Jackson
    It's pilgrim juice!

    HAHA - if i were that guy, I'd change my name.

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    This weeks entry is back to the Deschutes Brewery of Bend Oregon.....


    Jubelale is classified as a "Strong Ale" or an "English Olde Ale," and has ties to the traditional Celebration Ales of England. Characterized by a very large malt body and pronounced bitterness, Jubelale contains five different varieties of hops and a healthy amount of crystal malt. The perfect ale for surviving the long, cold nights of winter.

    Kathleen Powers, a Portland artist who is influenced by 15th Century Flemish painting, illustrated the Jubelale artwork for 2004. Her style encompasses exquisite detail, vivid color and an implied narrative. Her interest in Ireland’s countryside also played into the whimsical features for this year’s Jubelale art. See more of Kathleen's work online at www.kathleenpowers.com.

    Original Gravity: 1.065
    Alcohol Content: 6.7%

    Ratings, Awards & Notables

    92 - Exceptional
    Beverage Testing Institute - 1/99

    Gold Medal, Bottle Conditioned Strong Ale category
    1998 Real Ale Festival

    "Poetry from the tap."
    Steve Johnson, America's Best Brews

    Silver Medal, Strong Ale category
    1991 Great American Beer Festival

    Gold Medal, Strong Ale category
    1990 Great American Beer Festival


    FORD's Comment: While Deschutes Brewery makes exceptionally good beer as a rule (their Obsidian Stout is my personal favorite), this holiday offering just doesn't measure up compared to regional competitors like Pyramid's Snow Cap (see last week's review)

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    Originally posted by FORD
    You can find those in Little Rock??

    I'll look for them. Believe it or not, some of the best beer selections around here are at a Chevron mini mart of all places. Best thing an oil company related business ever did
    You think a place that can produce a president can't have a good selection of beers?

    I orderered a New Belgium La Folie the other night because I was looking at the ones I haven't tried for my "hall of fame" and my girl said that it looked like it would be pretty good from the description. What they failed to put beside the description was the price. I paid $30 for a 5th size bottle of beer! It was good and barely even tasted like beer, more like champagne.

    2 more beers, which I'll kill Monday night, and that's be 200 I've tried in just over a year.

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    Chicken Soup For The Beer Drinker's Soul

    Sometimes when I reflect back on all the beer I
    drink I feel ashamed. Then I look into the glass
    and think about the workers in the brewery and all of
    their hopes and dreams. If I didn't drink this
    beer, they might be out of work and their dreams
    would be shattered. Then I say to myself, "It is
    better that I drink this beer and let their
    dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver."
    --by Jack Handy

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    they wake up in the morning, that's as good as
    they're going to feel all day.
    --Frank Sinatra

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    That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.
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    drunk, we fall asleep. When we
    fall asleep, we commit no sin. When we commit
    no sin, we go to heaven.
    Sooooo, let's all get drunk and go to heaven!
    -- Brian O'Rourke

    You can't be a real country unless you have a
    beer and an airline. It helps
    if you have some kind of a football team, or
    some nuclear weapons, but at
    the very least you need a beer.
    --Frank Zappa

    Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to
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    Without question, the greatest invention in the
    history of mankind is beer.
    Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine
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    --Dave Barry

    Why is American beer served cold? So you can
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    Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals
    such as hydrogen and oxygen,
    for example, there would be no way to make
    water, a vital ingredient in beer.
    --Dave Barry

    You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor
    without holding on.
    --Dean Martin

    To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support
    Group.

    Scotch - Because one doesn't solve the world's
    problems over white wine
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    Chicken Soup For The Beer Drinker's Soul

    Sometimes when I reflect back on all the beer I
    drink I feel ashamed. Then I look into the glass
    and think about the workers in the brewery and all of
    their hopes and dreams. If I didn't drink this
    beer, they might be out of work and their dreams
    would be shattered. Then I say to myself, "It is
    better that I drink this beer and let their
    dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver."
    --by Jack Handy

    I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When
    they wake up in the morning, that's as good as
    they're going to feel all day.
    --Frank Sinatra

    Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk.
    That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.
    --Ernest Hemingway

    A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even
    have the decency to thank her.
    --W.C. Fields

    Life is a waste of time, time is a waste of
    life, so get wasted all of the
    time and have the time of your life.
    -- Michelle Mastrolacasa

    When we drink, we get drunk. When we get
    drunk, we fall asleep. When we
    fall asleep, we commit no sin. When we commit
    no sin, we go to heaven.
    Sooooo, let's all get drunk and go to heaven!
    -- Brian O'Rourke

    You can't be a real country unless you have a
    beer and an airline. It helps
    if you have some kind of a football team, or
    some nuclear weapons, but at
    the very least you need a beer.
    --Frank Zappa

    Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to
    be happy.
    --Benjamin Franklin

    Without question, the greatest invention in the
    history of mankind is beer.
    Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine
    invention, but the wheel does
    not go nearly as well with pizza.
    --Dave Barry

    Why is American beer served cold? So you can
    distinguish it from urine.
    --David Moulton

    Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals
    such as hydrogen and oxygen,
    for example, there would be no way to make
    water, a vital ingredient in beer.
    --Dave Barry

    You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor
    without holding on.
    --Dean Martin

    To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support
    Group.

    Scotch - Because one doesn't solve the world's

    problems over white wine
    :bottle:

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    Originally posted by Jesus Christ
    Even I like to turn the water into beer now and then
    Hallelujah!! Amen. Praise our lord Jesus!
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    Originally posted by FORD
    Looks like winter beer season is on it's way..... full reports to follow
    I like the Samuel Adams Holiday Mix Pack. Mainly for the Cranberry Lambric. Unfortunately, there are only two of these beauties in each 12-pack. But that might be a good thing since they are so good that I would drink them morning, noon, and night if they came in 12-packs of their own.

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    What sucks is that you can't get the Cranberry Lambic on it's own. At least not on this end of the country anymore. I did try a 6 pack of that about 4 or 5 years ago. Sam Adams winter lager's not bad either, but I'm not buying a mix pack that's got light beer in it - unless I'm taking it to a party where someone else would drink the crap.

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    And why isn't the Old Fezziwig Ale included in their Multi pack?? That looks interesting.

    The www.samueladams.com website's got a pretty cool layout.

    And I'm really interested in trying some of this "Utopia" beer they're talking about over there. A 25% alcohol beer that cant even be legally sold in about half the country

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    I asked a liquor store here to order Sam Smiths Oatmeal Stout on the recommendation of Diamonds Girl. The lady ordered some Goose Island Oatmeal Stout instead. I didn't care for it, but I am looking forward to trying the Sam Adams Winter Pack now...
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    Originally posted by lms2
    I asked a liquor store here to order Sam Smiths Oatmeal Stout on the recommendation of Diamonds Girl. The lady ordered some Goose Island Oatmeal Stout instead. I didn't care for it, but I am looking forward to trying the Sam Adams Winter Pack now...
    How in God's name could anybody confuse Goose Island for Samuel Smith. One's made in Chicago and the other is an English import. There's a store around here that occasionally gets Goose Island stuff. It's not bad, but it definitely doesn't compare to Samuel Smith's.

    How is the availability in Kansas? Can you get decent beer there without special ordering it?

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    I guess if you like the Standards... Michelob, Bud, Coors. Plus, we have a lot of mexican beers... I went looking for some of the beers you have talked about here... LOL... owners looked at me like I was nuts.

    I did find a Sunshine Wheat Beer... made in Ft. Collins Colorado that was pretty good. But other than that, just the Sam Adams Winter Pack. I wanted to try his Cherry Wheat Beer-but could only find the winter pack.

    As for going into a bar or club and ordering one?

    LMAO about that...

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    Originally posted by lms2
    I asked a liquor store here to order Sam Smiths Oatmeal Stout on the recommendation of Diamonds Girl. The lady ordered some Goose Island Oatmeal Stout instead. I didn't care for it, but I am looking forward to trying the Sam Adams Winter Pack now...
    Well, hopefully she will get her shit straight and you will be able to try Samuel Smith out. The only thing I don't like about any Samuel Smith beers is that they come in a 4 pack. WTF?!

    Looking forward to trying Samuel Smith's Winter Welcome Ale.
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    A four pack is good for me... then I would only be stuck with two more Goose Islands instead of four!

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    Originally posted by FORD
    And why isn't the Old Fezziwig Ale included in their Multi pack?? That looks interesting.

    The www.samueladams.com website's got a pretty cool layout.

    And I'm really interested in trying some of this "Utopia" beer they're talking about over there. A 25% alcohol beer that cant even be legally sold in about half the country
    I don't know about the west coast, but here in Buffalo we are relatively close to Boston, so we get a special "Holiday" mix-pack. It contains 2 of each: Old Fezziwig, regular Lager, Boston Ale, Cranberry Lambic, Winter Lager, and Bock (if memory serves correct). It becomes available around the middle of November and it is full of holiday cheer. Old Fezziwig is quite good, a very hearty ale with essence of cinnamon and other holiday spices.

    Good luck with the Utopia. I saw Jim Koch (pronounced Cook) on a History Channel program and he said basically that the "special" brews are sapped up before they even get to the local store. But my brother lives near Boston and maybe I can get him to score some.

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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    I don't know about the west coast, but here in Buffalo we are relatively close to Boston, so we get a special "Holiday" mix-pack. It contains 2 of each: Old Fezziwig, regular Lager, Boston Ale, Cranberry Lambic, Winter Lager, and Bock (if memory serves correct). It becomes available around the middle of November and it is full of holiday cheer. Old Fezziwig is quite good, a very hearty ale with essence of cinnamon and other holiday spices.

    Good luck with the Utopia. I saw Jim Koch (pronounced Cook) on a History Channel program and he said basically that the "special" brews are sapped up before they even get to the local store. But my brother lives near Boston and maybe I can get him to score some.
    Buffalo? Send me some wings!!!! Please!!!
    Suicide!!!

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    Dude- send me some "real" Canadian (Molson) beer and it's a deal! I hear Van Hagar is playing Toronto soon.? We need to get a review.

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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    Dude- send me some "real" Canadian (Molson) beer and it's a deal! I hear Van Hagar is playing Toronto soon.? We need to get a review.
    Seriously, if you want real "suicide" wings, try Mammoser's Pub in Hamburg, NY (about 15 miles-oops-25 Kilometers south of Buffalo).

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    Originally posted by FORD
    Not at all.... FORD appreciates a good cider now and then...Granny Smith Apple Cider is the shit!

    I am currently working on making homemade hard cider. I had to look around, since there was a local salmonella outbreak, but I found a place that still sells unpasturized apple cider and I thought I'd stow a gallon away and see how it is in a month or two.

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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    I am currently working on making homemade hard cider. I had to look around, since there was a local salmonella outbreak, but I found a place that still sells unpasturized apple cider and I thought I'd stow a gallon away and see how it is in a month or two.
    Is that all there is to it, Nick?

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    I think so. Do you have cider experience?

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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    I think so. Do you have cider experience?
    no, but if thats all it takes, I can do it! LOL. I had no idea

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    I've had cider ferment before, but I am not sure exactly how long to wait. But it needs to be unpasturized, which is very difficult to find now a days.

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    Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout is good stuff! Why would you guys even suggest a beer made with fruit in it is beyond me! Not!

    Ims2, you should go over the border to Colorado Springs and there is a liquor store there that's well known for carrying almost every beer available. The name of the place escapes, but call around or ask a local and your in buisness!
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    hey gang, awhile back I had a half glass of guinness mixed with a half glass of woodchuck hard cider. It was good, but I cant remember what its called.

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    Originally posted by Carmine Raguzza.
    hey gang, awhile back I had a half glass of guinness mixed with a half glass of woodchuck hard cider. It was good, but I cant remember what its called.

    Help!
    that sounds interesting...

    not the same thing but, I had cider jack + winter warmer it was called an apple pie. Very good.

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