9/11/04 Sam's comments in Ft. Lauderdale

[chefcraig]

As I said in another post, we've been getting nailed at work because of the back to back hurricanes, so Saturday my bud and I attended the 9/11 VH show here at the Office Depot Center.

I really do not feel I need to draw out the significance of this date for most Americans, as within the context of that setting, I'm sure many of you will be as astounded as we in South Florida were to hear Sam Hagar start telling a sarcastic and utterly thoughtless series of jokes about fire fighters, who along with policemen and women lost over 400 brothers and sisters on this date three years ago.

This all started when someone threw a hat to this fool onstage. The cap said "West Palm Fire Rescue" on it. He put it on, then went into a monologue about how firemen sit around all day, watching porn, and only work a few hours a week..."That's not a job, man..." is what the insensitive idiot said.

This was met (rightly) with a well deserved round of booing.

Later, he goes into his dismal "solo" set, announcing he'd picked out some songs "specifically" for this date...and proceeded to play the exact same two songs he's played at EVERY Show on this current tour.

Is it any surprise to any of you that the most warmly greeted tunes at this concert were from the Dave Roth era?

I apologise for the length of this post, yet I simply had to share with you folk how appalled I and many others were at this drooling turd's lack of conscience. I've never really came out and openly bashed the guy before, yet this was simply un-called for.

Thank's to those of you that choose to read this.

...craig

[Rikk]

How the fuck are ya, Craig???

Anyway, this doesn't surprise me in the least. Sammy Hagar is an insensitive, stupid and uneducated man. He's a trashy piece of shit. In fact, playing WHEN EAGLES FLY as a tribute to 9-11 sounds kinda tasteless to me...why not just call it WHEN BOEINGS FLY?

Stupid son of a bitch.

[Matt White]

NOBODY has ever accused Spammy Hagar of being an intelligent man, and it's no wonder why. The STUPID bastard just doesn't get it. After the sacrifices that the NYFD & NYPD made on 9-11, one would think that VERY AMERICAN, even a supposedly PATRIOTIC ONE like Spam, would have realized they make those kind of sacrifices on a daily basis. But, as I have said, he is a STUPID individual. So, please don't take offense at what ONE un-educated hippy has to say, CRAIG. The VAST MAJORITY of AMERICANS appreciate that Firefighters and Police Officers make huge sacrifices everyday!!!


DAVE OR THE GRAVE BABY!!!

[ELVIS]

Like he has a job ??

Fucking idiot...


You should have posted this in main...

Good post...

[Rikk]

Yeah, can we move this to MAIN? This is definitely VH-related.

[chefcraig]

I appreciate it guys...yet as I play by the rules, this is where I interpreted it should be posted...it's your call.

...craig

[ELVIS]

Ally would need to do it...

This is a hell of alot better than reading about how fat Fat Ass Hagar is...

[BackInAction]

Originally posted by c.craig
As I said in another post, we've been getting nailed at work because of the back to back hurricanes, so Saturday my bud and I attended the 9/11 VH show here at the Office Depot Center.

I really do not feel I need to draw out the significance of this date for most Americans, as within the context of that setting, I'm sure many of you will be as astounded as we in South Florida were to hear Sam Hagar start telling a sarcastic and utterly thoughtless series of jokes about fire fighters, who along with policemen and women lost over 400 brothers and sisters on this date three years ago.

This all started when someone threw a hat to this fool onstage. The cap said "West Palm Fire Rescue" on it. He put it on, then went into a monologue about how firemen sit around all day, watching porn, and only work a few hours a week..."That's not a job, man..." is what the insensitive idiot said.

This was met (rightly) with a well deserved round of booing.

Later, he goes into his dismal "solo" set, announcing he'd picked out some songs "specifically" for this date...and proceeded to play the exact same two songs he's played at EVERY Show on this current tour.

Is it any surprise to any of you that the most warmly greeted tunes at this concert were from the Dave Roth era?

I apologise for the length of this post, yet I simply had to share with you folk how appalled I and many others were at this drooling turd's lack of conscience. I've never really came out and openly bashed the guy before, yet this was simply un-called for.

Thank's to those of you that choose to read this.

...craig

Hmm, your review at the "links" seemed much more positive and didn't mention ths at all...nor did anyone else mention it.



:confused:

[BackInAction]

Originally posted by Rikk
How the fuck are ya, Craig???

Anyway, this doesn't surprise me in the least. Sammy Hagar is an insensitive, stupid and uneducated man. He's a trashy piece of shit. In fact, playing WHEN EAGLES FLY as a tribute to 9-11 sounds kinda tasteless to me...why not just call it WHEN BOEINGS FLY?

Stupid son of a bitch.

Damn, people. The crowd misunderstands Hagar joking around and your mouths starts foaming. I seriously doubt he meant what you want him to have meant it.

Sammy Hagar is an insensitive, stupid and uneducated man

I thiought that's what we like about Roth...

Yeah, I know. Sheep, Gay, Fag and all the bullshit, but seriously...you guys can't be that desperate for topics to post on.

[chefcraig]

Originally posted by BackInAction
Hmm, your review at the "links" seemed much more positive and didn't mention ths at all...nor did anyone else mention it.



:confused:

It was mentioned at the links...and I make no apology for what I post anywhere.

In any event, what business is it of yours what I or anyone cares to post? How am I being the least bit hypercritical? Everyone that knows me is aware that I approve of the Roth era more...I also happen to be a fan of Ed Van Halen's musicianship.

Reread the post that I started this thread with...I clearly state that this is the first time I've openly bashed Sam Hagar.

Did I call him overweight? Attack his singing? No.

I simply called in to question his character and sensitivity on a day that many of us feel strongly about.

If upon rereading that post all you care to offer is a comparison of the nature of my threads at two opposing sites, I question yours as well.

...craig

[JCOOK]

Somebody needs to drag this fat fucking hillbilly off the stage and beat the shit out of him... and you to Edward for allowing this shit.

[BackInAction]

Originally posted by c.craig

I simply called in to question his character and sensitivity on a day that many of us feel strongly about.

If upon rereading that post all you care to offer is a comparison of the nature of my threads at two opposing sites, I question yours as well.

...craig

Well, if you're so concerned with character, it seems you would be against throwing stuff like that out (especially here), knowing you really have no idea what Hagar really meant by them. I seriously doubt the same dude who threw a free show in NY for fire fighters & police would honestly and intentionally bash firefighters.

If upon rereading that post all you care to offer is a comparison of the nature of my threads at two opposing sites, I question yours as well.

:confused: You're a Van Halen fan at one site and post bullshit on another... Kinda two-faced..no? Now that's character!

[diamondsgirl]

Pretty stupid shit to say, especially on 9/11. He should have grabbed the opportunity to salute and thank them.

Not too bright that Sam Hagar.

[Matt White]

Originally posted by BackInAction

Yeah, I know. Sheep, Gay, Fag and all the bullshit, but seriously...you guys can't be that desperate for topics to post on.

Whats the matter BIA, run out of things to talk to (NO)Mas Tequila about? Bugsy-vh not entertaining enough? So, back here to get some stimulation. Look, Hagar has the mental capacity of a grapefruit, and the SISTERS aren't far behind. If you don't like the conversation, join your bud POLO-PONY back at the STINKS. In other words, this is an A-B conversation. C your way out of it.




DAVE OR THE GRAVE BABY!!!

[Mezro]

For guys that sit around all day and watch porn, firemen are a group of brave motherfuckers who are the real deal when it comes to American heroes.

Mezro...Sam's poor judgement streak continues...

[chefcraig]

Originally posted by BackInAction

:confused: You're a Van Halen fan at one site and post bullshit on another... Kinda two-faced..no? Now that's character! [/B]

Where is this "bullshit" you describe?

Not that I've created a ton of threads here, yet by comparison your purpose seems basically to run about taking pot shots at people, without truly adding any content to the threads you post on.

(Notice I didn't resort to calling anyone any names here? That's primarily because the thread is about an event I witnessed, and this is where I choose to post it at. The thread is about my objection to the event, not about ME!!!)

And I will ask you a second time, as you obviously and conveniantly chose to ignore it the first time: What business is it of yours, and furthermore...WHY is it any of your concern? When and where were you elected arbitor of of behavior for anyone, including myself?

I already have a mother, father, wife and kids...your contributions and comments about what and where I do things are not only unnecessary, they are redundant.

[BackInAction]

Originally posted by Matt White
In other words, this is an A-B conversation. C your way out of it.

That's tight dude, can I use that sometime??

[BackInAction]

Originally posted by c.craig

Not that I've created a ton of threads here, yet by comparison your purpose seems basically to run about taking pot shots at people, without truly adding any content to the threads you post on.

Yeah, lots of misleading speculation and fat jokes to add to this...but that's what everyone else is for. You wanted comments and reactions to your post...and you got it.

(Notice I didn't resort to calling anyone any names here? That's primarily because the thread is about an event I witnessed, and this is where I choose to post it at. The thread is about my objection to the event, not about ME!!!)

I am actually impressed by this... Thanks!

And I will ask you a second time, as you obviously and conveniantly chose to ignore it the first time: What business is it of yours, and furthermore...WHY is it any of your concern? When and where were you elected arbitor of of behavior for anyone, including myself?

You post this misleading, uninformed crap in a public forum to get a rise and a reaction out of people and ask what business is it of mine? I "obviously and conveniantly chose to ignore it" because it was a stupid question.

Your whole basis is about character and yet you "obviously and conveniantly" ignored explaining the two-faced approach I asked about.

WOW, you do the same shit you accuse me of doing. That never happens here...

[chefcraig]

Were you even at the concert? What is misleading? I and several others voiced our displeasure, are you deaf, or simply not in attendance?

[Bill Lumbergh]

Come on guys, you just knew the Ed and Sam ass lickers would put a spin on this..........if Sam was joking he picked a poor fucking day for it. Oh and Sam.........you're not funny.........sing your fucking cheese ballads for the morbidly obese housewives, but other than that, SHUT THE FUCK UP!

[Rikk]

BACK IN ACTION is probably BLOW-IT-ALL with a different username!! LOL. What a tool!

For someone who likes to call us pathetic, he certainly spends a lot of time here.

And, and yes...you actually ARE a sheep. And you know why? Because I know that I can make my own decisions. I know that I can appreciate the original Van Halen while putting my nose up at the shit version. That's a choice. You claim you can't be a real fan if you don't like all Van Halen.

Who's the sheep?

Loser.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Bill Lumbergh
Come on guys, you just knew the Ed and Sam ass lickers would put a spin on this..........if Sam was joking he picked a poor fucking day for it. Oh and Sam.........you're not funny.........sing your fucking cheese ballads for the morbidly obese housewives, but other than that, SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Does Sam actually read posts here?

[chefcraig]

Originally posted by Rikk
BACK IN ACTION is probably BLOW-IT-ALL with a different username!! LOL. What a tool!

For someone who likes to call us pathetic, he certainly spends a lot of time here.

And, and yes...you actually ARE a sheep. And you know why? Because I know that I can make my own decisions. I know that I can appreciate the original Van Halen while putting my nose up at the shit version. That's a choice. You claim you can't be a real fan if you don't like all Van Halen.

Who's the sheep?

Loser.

You see Rikk, that's what I don't get. You and I both post here and there...and I make a concerted effort not to mix the fields.

It seems this fellow has nothing else to do than stir the pot, yet adds nothing.

My two favorite NFL teams are the Miami Dolphins and the Oakland Raiders (I know, that's my problem...). The only time I have mixed feelings is when they compete head to head.

Yet I don't see the point of someone existing solely to point out what ONLY THEY VIEW to be a contradiction.

A what the hell...it's my day off.

...craig

[Matt White]

WHO taught Spam to read?!?! Why wasn't the media alerted?!? I was always under the understanding that he was like CHAUNCEY GARDINER..." I don't read the papers, I watch TV!"



DAVE OR THE GRAVE BABY!!!

[Bill Lumbergh]

Originally posted by Matt White
WHO taught Spam to read?!?! Why wasn't the media alerted?!? I was always under the understanding that he was like CHAUNCEY GARDINER.." I don't read the papers, I watch TV!"



DAVE OR THE GRAVE BABY!!!

Havent you read the latest interviews?! Sam is a Harvard graduate! He also invented the wheel, the lightbulb, titties, Mickeys Ice etc. etc. etc.

[BackInAction]

Originally posted by c.craig
Were you even at the concert? What is misleading? I and several others voiced our displeasure, are you deaf, or simply not in attendance?

Wasn't at the concert, and even if I were deaf, I was able to read the post just fine. The "drooling turd" was what caught my attention. You're treating it as if hagar meant his comments 100% and took a shot at him. That's bullshit since you don't know...or never will know what he meant. It 'seems' that you would have left it a little open ended instead taking the worst side possible.

You have still avoided my other questions, so I assume I'll get no answer.

Have a nice day

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Bill Lumbergh
Havent you read the latest interviews?! Sam is a Harvard graduate! He also invented the wheel, the lightbulb, titties, Mickeys Ice etc. etc. etc.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Christ, Bill...you are so fucking funny. "Sam invented titties!"

[Bill Lumbergh]

Originally posted by Rikk
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Christ, Bill...you are so fucking funny. "Sam invented titties!"

And now he has a pair!

[ZahZoo]

So is BackInAction the designated Hagar Apologist for the day?

(Thanks for the new catch phrase Lou!!)

[BackInAction]

Originally posted by c.craig
You see Rikk, that's what I don't get. You and I both post here and there...and I make a concerted effort not to mix the fields.

It seems this fellow has nothing else to do than stir the pot, yet adds nothing.

My two favorite NFL teams are the Miami Dolphins and the Oakland Raiders (I know, that's my problem...). The only time I have mixed feelings is when they compete head to head.

Yet I don't see the point of someone existing solely to point out what ONLY THEY VIEW to be a contradiction.

A what the hell...it's my day off.

...craig

You know, you shouln't get that bent over this. Opinions instigate opinions.

Yeah, I see shit my way, you see it your way. Whatever. We're not at your kitchen table...we're here. that's the way it goes.

As for Rikk, that guy posts nothing but bullshit, cheap shots and spins everything here and "there". His posts are pointless to read or pay attention to.

[Rebel]

I don't make a point to go around slamming Hagar, but that was pretty damn stupid, I don't know WTF he was thinking. They don't have a job? Your the singer for VH, is that work?? Hell no. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but he hasn't done a day's work in his life that those guys do. I hope he thought about it after the show, he probably didn't, but maybe he thought about it for awhile.

[chefcraig]

Originally posted by BackInAction


As for Rikk, that guy posts nothing but bullshit, cheap shots and spins everything here and "there". His posts are pointless to read or pay attention to.

I wouldn't say that, at all...and I've been reading his stuff for a couple of years.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by c.craig
I wouldn't say that, at all...and I've been reading his stuff for a couple of years.

Thanks Craig.

For BIA to accuse me of that is pathetic. The last little while there's been a lot of FAB shit. But most of the time I try and post either funny posts or interesting posts...and BIA is here to do nothing but attack the site.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Originally posted by BackInAction
You know, you shouln't get that bent over this. Opinions instigate opinions.

Yeah, I see shit my way, you see it your way. Whatever. We're not at your kitchen table...we're here. that's the way it goes.

As for Rikk, that guy posts nothing but bullshit, cheap shots and spins everything here and "there". His posts are pointless to read or pay attention to.

Rikk fucking tell's it like it is, like many of us do here. Here's an example.........you're a worthless human being.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by BackInAction
You know, you shouln't get that bent over this. Opinions instigate opinions.

Why are you here if you don't agree with almost anyon here, dumbass? This is not a site for bitter Linkers, dumbass.

I mean, you're free to post here. But it's kinda pathetic.

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Bill Lumbergh
Rikk fucking tell's it like it is, like many of us do here. Here's an example.........you're a worthless human being.

Bill, don't forget, he likes to be called a Sheep. It gets him hard.

Oh, and he is a worthless human being.

[DrGrafenberg]

While on the one hand I can understand your feelings on this matter...
On the other...Why were you at a Sham Halen concert in the first place???

P.S. I looked for a "sheep" smilie but there aint one???
can someone fix this problem please

[Rikk]

Originally posted by DrGrafenberg
P.S. I looked for a "sheep" smilie but there aint one???
can someone fix this problem please

Yeah, we do need one, don't we?

I can vouch for Craig, though. He's a very cool guy.

[BackInAction]

Originally posted by Rikk
Thanks Craig.

For BIA to accuse me of that is pathetic. The last little while there's been a lot of FAB shit. But most of the time I try and post either funny posts or interesting posts...and BIA is here to do nothing but attack the site.

I don't attack the site. I just call people a sheep and gay and..., wait, that's you. Sorry.

I meant to say that I comment for what I agree with and against what I don't agree with. Typical forum format.

[chefcraig]

Originally posted by DrGrafenberg
While on the one hand I can understand your feelings on this matter...
On the other...Why were you at a Sham Halen concert in the first place???

I was there for the "Halen" part!