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    Talking Democrats, Expecting Bush's Re-election, Prepare to Flee America

    Thursday, Sept. 23, 2004 4:29 p.m. EDT
    Democrats, Expecting Bush's Re-election, Prepare to Flee America

    SALT LAKE CITY - Happiness and joy: What made a recent vacation perfect was the first sign of dour Democrats packing their French suitcases at the prospect of President Bush’s re-election.



    Having escaped Florida's dog days and Hurricane Frances, we were passing through beautiful Utah when, to check a restaurant listing, we picked up something called City Weekly, one of those free left-wing yuppie tabloids that infest most sizable cities.


    Our heart soared when we took a gander at this item, even though we realize that of course most limousine leftists will remain as firmly ensconced in America as Alec Baldwin:


    Flight From Bushland

    Canada. Costa Rica. New Zealand. They’ve all come up in conversation as a variety of people ask the pressing question, "Where can we go?”

    They’re not talking about an idyllic vacation. They’re talking about an escape hatch, a Plan B in case the elections don’t go as they hope. It’s a question I hear asked frequently these days from people of various political persuasions. They aren’t the young and disillusioned with nothing to lose. They are mainstream, thoughtful, well-established people who own their homes, have good paying jobs, dutifully pay their taxes and vote in every election. But they’re nervous about what might happen come November and beyond.

    "You know how Fortune comes out with the ‘10 Best Places to Live in America?’ Well, we need a list of the ‘10 Best Places for Disgusted Americans,’” a well-heeled gentleman who owns his own business told me over lunch. "Vancouver is too cold, but I don’t like the tropics. They make me too lazy. There must be a place like Oregon that’s outside the grasp of George Bush.”

    Like most who toy with the idea, it’s doubtful he’ll move out of the country. He has too much invested in his life and career here, as do so many of his generation. Of those who have threatened to flee, I know of only one couple that has followed through. Charles and Marilyn, who asked that I not use their last names, have sold their East Bench home, given away expensive appliances, tools, and furniture, and found a place in western Canada outside the rain zone.

    The two retired professionals say they have lost faith in the direction America is taking. "It’s not just Bush,” says Charles. "The wealthy and powerful have essentially bought the government, the Congress, the presidency for George Bush, the Supreme Court, and, in states where courts are elected, they’ve bought courts. They’ve bought legislatures in every state capital. And there’s no way that these people are going to go against business. It doesn’t matter if Kerry or Bush or Nader is elected. The courts will do what pleases business. The problem I have is that half the people in this country think that’s right. People are totally irrational.”

    "I don’t understand why people aren’t rising up,” says Marilyn. "But the materialistic culture keeps people so busy acquiring stuff and taking care of stuff that they’re too busy to fight.”

    "They’re inert,” adds Charles.

    Worse than a materialistic culture too sated to respond to big business hijacking its government, Marilyn sees a culture in decline. She cites parallels to the way the Roman Empire fell: "Things are too far gone to be corrected. There’s going to be real unpleasantness.”

    Their decision to leave has elicited a wide range of responses, from indignation and charges of paranoia to envy. "We’ve been approached by people who want to pick our brains on how to do it,” says Marilyn. "It’s not simple to pick up and leave. All the things you have to deal with in a measured way take some planning.”

    The couple is still working out the details, but they plan to go into Canada as "seasonal visitors” and hold onto their U.S. citizenship for Medicare and Social Security purposes.

    "You only get one shot at life,” says Marilyn, who has worked on many social causes. "People say we should stay and fight, but when you see the tide coming in, you move. You have to know when to hold and know when to fold.”

    Marilyn and Charles have decided it’s time to fold.

    'Made Me Puke'


    After a great hiking trip in Idaho, Oregon and northern Utah, we passed through Salt Lake two weeks later and picked up another issue of City Weekly. Among the letters to the editor was this rib tickler:

    Blowing Chunks in Their Trunks
    The story of Americans "Charles and Marilyn” fleeing to Canada because of problems here in the United States made me puke ["Flight From Bushland,” Voices, Sept. 2, City Weekly]. They have an "East Bench” home containing "expensive appliances, tools, and furniture,” yet they somehow condemn American culture for becoming too "materialistic.”

    But the thing really causing me to blow chunks is Charles and Marilyn are gonna be hiding deep in a bunker in western Canada while still collecting Social Security and Medicare checks from good ole Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam will still be feeding and protecting Charles and Marilyn—just as he always has—and no matter how wrong-headed they have become.

    Steven Morgan
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    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...3/163235.shtml

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    People like that disgust me. The space they occupy is better filled by people who actually appreciate the opportunites this country offers them.

    Revoke their citizenship, pack them on a boat or plane and ship them the hell off.

    Maybe after dropping them off, they can pick up and bring back those people who otherwise would have risked death by crossing an ocean on an innertube to get here.

    The lowliest immigrant fresh off the boat is more valuable a citizen than those mincing liberal pussies.

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    Ain't that the truth.

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    And yet I bet these people also said, "I can still love America without liking Bush." Well obviously not if you are going to go to the extreme of moving to another country.

    Goddamn, they sound spoiled. Sorta wish that they do end up moving to some other country and then realize how good they had it here.
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    I'm sure the English said all the same things about the guys who got on those boats back in the 1600's..... You know, the ones that people call "founding fathers" now?
    Eat Us And Smile

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    "Stars And Stripes Of Corruption" (J. Biafra)

    Finally got to Washington in the middle of the night
    I couldn't wait
    I headed straight for the Capitol Mall
    My heart began to pound
    Yahoo! It really exists
    The American International Pictures logo

    I looked up at that Capitol Building
    Couldn't help but wonder why
    I felt like saying "Hello, old friend"

    Walked up the hill to touch it
    Then I unzipped my pants
    And pissed on it when nobody was looking

    Like a great eternal Klansman
    With his two flashing red eyes
    Turn around he's always watching
    The Washington monument pricks the sky
    With flags like pubic hair ringed 'round the bottom

    The symbols of our heritage
    Lit up proudly in the night
    Somehow fits to see the homeless people
    Passed out on the lawn

    So this is where it happens
    The power games and bribes
    All lobbying for a piece of ass

    Of the stars and stripes of corruption
    Makes me feel so ashamed
    To be an American
    When we're too stuck up to learn from our mistakes
    Trying to start another Viet Nam
    Whilke fiddling while Rome burns at home
    The Boss says, "You're laid off. Blame the terraists"
    "America's back," alright
    At the game it plays the worst
    Strip mining the world like a slave plantation

    No wonder others hate us
    And the Hitlers we handpick
    To bleed their people dry
    For our evil empire

    The drug we're fed
    To make us like it
    Is God and country with a band

    People we know who should know better
    Howl, "America rules. Let's go to war!"
    Business scams are what's worth dying for?

    Are the Muslims our worst enemy?
    We're destroying ourselves instead
    Who cares about our civil rights
    As long as I get paid?

    The blind Me-Generation
    Doesn't care if life's a lie

    so easily used, so proud to enforce

    The stars and stripes of corruption
    Let's bring it all down!
    Tell me who's the real patriots
    The Archie Bunker slobs waving flags?
    Or the people with the guts to work
    For some real change
    Rednecks and bombs don't make us strong
    We loot the world, yet we can't even feed ourselves
    Our real test of strength is caring
    Not the toys of war we sell the world

    Just carry on, thankful to be farmed like worms
    Old glory for a blanket
    As you suck on your thumbs

    Real freedom scares you
    'Cos it means responsibility

    So you chicken out and threaten me

    Saying, "Love it or leave it"
    I'll get beat up if I criticize it
    You say you'll fight to the death
    To save your worthless flag

    If you want a banana republic that bad
    Why don't you go move to one

    But what can just one of us do?
    Against all that money and power
    Trying to crush us into roaches?

    We don't destroy society in a day
    Until we change ourselves first
    From the inside out

    We can start by not lying so much
    And treating other people like dirt
    It's easy not to base our lives
    On how much we can scam

    And you know
    It feels good to lift that monkey off our backs

    I'm thankful I live in a place
    Where I can say the things I do
    Without being taken out and shot
    So I'm on guard against the goons
    Trying to take my rights away

    We've got to rise above the need for cops and laws

    Let kids learn communication
    Instead of schools pushing competition
    How about more art and theater instead of sports?

    People will always do drugs
    Let's legalize them
    Crime drops when the mob can't price them
    Budget's in the red?
    Let's tax religion

    No one will do it for us
    We'll just have to fix ourselves
    Honesty ain't all that hard
    Just put Rambo back inside your pants
    Causing trouble for the system is much more fun

    Thank you for the toilet paper
    But your flag is meaningless to me
    Look around, we're all people
    Who needs countries anyway?

    Our land, I love it too
    I think I love it more than you
    I care enough to fight


    The stars and stripes of corruption
    Let's bring it all down!
    If we don't try
    If we just lie
    If we can't find
    A way to do it better than this
    Who will?

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    I hope that dope Jello is the first to go!

    Nothing is keeping people here. Don't like it LEAVE!

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    If the man in the center of that picture had served his full two terms, and then his brother had served his full two, the world would be a much better place today

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    Originally posted by FORD
    I'm sure the English said all the same things about the guys who got on those boats back in the 1600's..... You know, the ones that people call "founding fathers" now?

    Good point.. go be a founding father somewere...

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    Originally posted by FORD
    If the man in the center of that picture had served his full two terms, and then his brother had served his full two, the world would be a much better place today

    Awww.. don't cry...

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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    Awww.. don't cry...
    If you understood what this country TRULY lost the day JFK was murdered, you would cry too. Even Jesus wept for those who would not understand (John 11:35)

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    Originally posted by FORD
    I'm sure the English said all the same things about the guys who got on those boats back in the 1600's..... You know, the ones that people call "founding fathers" now?
    Um...the people who first came here in the 1600's were either trying to get away from being forced into a religion or helping to settle land for their respective countries.

    The founding fathers put their foots down when the British gov't starting treating them like second class citizens.

    Come on Ford. I know you know your history and that this isn't even comparable.

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    It's all part of God's plan...

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    Originally posted by Ally_Kat
    Um...the people who first came here in the 1600's were either trying to get away from being forced into a religion or helping to settle land for their respective countries.

    The founding fathers put their foots down when the British gov't starting treating them like second class citizens.

    Come on Ford. I know you know your history and that this isn't even comparable.
    Read the link I posted in the other thread, and you'll see that the forced theocracy is coming. Or theocratic fascism more accurately, which is even worse than anything the Church of England ever was under whatever King or Queen.

    As for being treated like second class citizens, why don't you ask Jose Padilla about that? Or that other guy Hamzi. Or ask a gay couple who have been together a decade or more, but still can't have the same legal rights as Titney Spears and who ever she is - or isn't - married to this week. Or ask African Americans in Florida, likely to get screwed out of their votes again this year (I'll post more on that later)

    Things in this country have gotten a lot worse than a fucking tea tax. Problem is that the brainwashing of the corporate whore media has left them unable to see the truth.

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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    It's all part of God's plan...
    God's plan?

    So God told George Bush's CIA to murder JFK, RFK, and MLK??

    And which God would that be?

    The one who Paul refers to in 2Corinthians 4:4, maybe?

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    Originally posted by FORD
    Read the link I posted in the other thread, and you'll see that the forced theocracy is coming. Or theocratic fascism more accurately, which is even worse than anything the Church of England ever was under whatever King or Queen.

    As for being treated like second class citizens, why don't you ask Jose Padilla about that? Or that other guy Hamzi. Or ask a gay couple who have been together a decade or more, but still can't have the same legal rights as Titney Spears and who ever she is - or isn't - married to this week. Or ask African Americans in Florida, likely to get screwed out of their votes again this year (I'll post more on that later)

    Things in this country have gotten a lot worse than a fucking tea tax. Problem is that the brainwashing of the corporate whore media has left them unable to see the truth.
    So if he doesn't win this election, or then wins and then leaves when his term is over, can I point and laugh at you? Just for a little...

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    Originally posted by Ally_Kat
    So if he doesn't win this election, or then wins and then leaves when his term is over, can I point and laugh at you? Just for a little...
    If the BCE doesn't pull something between now and January 20th to disrupt one aspect or another of the process, then you can laugh all you want. It doesn't neccessarily have to be before the election to disrupt the process.

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    I'm so printing this out and having my mother notarizing it

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    Originally posted by FORD
    If the BCE doesn't pull something between now and January 20th to disrupt one aspect or another of the process, then you can laugh all you want. It doesn't neccessarily have to be before the election to disrupt the process.

    Why not between now and Nov 3rd ??

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    Originally posted by FORD
    Or ask a gay couple who have been together a decade or more, but still can't have the same legal rights as Titney Spears and who ever she is - or isn't - married to this week.

    Dude, come out of the closet already...

    The fag marriage issue is only even slightly an issue because liberal loudmouth homo's like you have attempted to make it one...

    The majority of gay's are not even behind this crap...

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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    Why not between now and Nov 3rd ??
    Cheney kinda painted himself into a corner on that one with the stupid statement he made last week. If "voting for Kerry would lead to another terra attack" after the election, then by the same token, one before the election would be the BCE's fault.

    Plus the public awareness of them attempting to fuck with the election has been in the news since the Spain thing. This way, they let the election proceed, and assuming they don't steal it, everyone lets their guard down and then celebrates the holidays with their families, thankful that the BCE will soon be out of office.

    Then in early January - possibly New Years Eve - it happens. Martial law declared, "Red alert" major terra event, and then the BCE has 20 days to figure out how NOT to transfer power.

    If I was mentally fucked up enough to write the BCE's script, that's exactly what I would do.

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    Originally posted by FORD
    If I was mentally fucked up enough to write the BCE's script, that's exactly what I would do.
    I know you would, because that's how your paranoid mind works...

    The "BCE" IS your creation.. It's your script...

    Therefore.. you are "mentally fucked up enough"

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    Originally posted by FORD

    Then in early January - possibly New Years Eve - it happens. Martial law declared, "Red alert" major terra event, and then the BCE has 20 days to figure out how NOT to transfer power.
    .
    Be warned -- it's going to be a hearty laugh

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    Originally posted by Ally_Kat
    Be warned -- it's going to be a hearty laugh
    Count me in...

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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    Dude, come out of the closet already...

    The fag marriage issue is only even slightly an issue because liberal loudmouth homo's like you have attempted to make it one...

    The majority of gay's are not even behind this crap...
    So you have to be gay to support gay civil rights??

    Fine, I'm gay then. In fact, I'm a Black Jewish Asian Mexican Muslim Lesbian trapped in a white man's body.

    Fuck, no wonder I hate the holidays.......


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    Originally posted by FORD
    Fine, I'm gay then.

    - Congradulations on your new found freedom...


    - Gay marriae is NOT a Civil rights issue !!!


    - That flag almost made me puke...




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    it's bright too. You'd think with a group that contains some of the best designers that they could come up with some kick-ass logo.

    And LMMFAO! Somewhere Over the Rainbow just came on the radio. Sorry, but that's too funny.

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    Originally posted by FORD
    If the man in the center of that picture had served his full two terms, and then his brother had served his full two, the world would be a much better place today

    JFK couldn't be elected by the Dems today if they wanted to! He was a President that wanted tax cuts too. Too bad he had the appetites of Clinton to tarnish whatever good he did in office and the press gave him a pass.

    Who's the punkass kid on the boat with the big nose?

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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    Dude, come out of the closet already...

    The fag marriage issue is only even slightly an issue because liberal loudmouth homo's like you have attempted to make it one...

    The majority of gay's are not even behind this crap...
    And we should listen to you because YOU speak for them?

    "liberal, loudmouth, homos"

    See, THIS is why you're considered such an ignorant dolt around here.

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    Elvis your a homophobe

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    I'm sure Elvis is against gay marriage for one simple reason. The Bible states that it is wrong for a man to lie with a man, and a woman to lie with a woman. I'm sure Elvis is a God-fearing man, and a church goer, so I would assume this is correct, right Elvis?

    From this perspective, he's not a homophobe, he just doesn't believe it's right.

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    It's all about the plumbing!! Some people just can't figure it out. Oh well, they were born they way.

    Any way, what's JC's perspective?

    (Sorry, Elvis, I know how the deity impersonations offend you, but it is parody, as long as it's not blaspemeous...plus I'm looking for a foot in mouth reaction)

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    My perspective is this:I hope the BCE is watching Ford very very closely I think hes' finally about to go.

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    Originally posted by Warham
    I'm sure Elvis is against gay marriage for one simple reason. The Bible states that it is wrong for a man to lie with a man, and a woman to lie with a woman. I'm sure Elvis is a God-fearing man, and a church goer, so I would assume this is correct, right Elvis?

    From this perspective, he's not a homophobe, he just doesn't believe it's right.

    100% correct!



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    Originally posted by Lqskdiver
    It's all about the plumbing!! Some people just can't figure it out. Oh well, they were born they way.

    Any way, what's JC's perspective?

    My teachings on homosexuality are exactly what they were 2000 years ago.

    Judge not, lest ye be judged.

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    You can point out the error in other people's ways. You just can't say they are going to Hell or not. It's not for you to decide, because you don't know what's in a man's heart; whether he asks for forgiveness from Christ or not.

    I'm likely to believe alot of those Catholic priests are going to Hell for their acts against the children, but I don't know their hearts, so I won't judge their fate.

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    Originally posted by Warham


    I'm likely to believe alot of those Catholic priests are going to Hell for their acts against the children, but I don't know their hearts, so I won't judge their fate.
    Take my word for it, the deal's been signed already
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    Mister know it all...

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    We don't want you in our country.

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    What are you talking about, and who are you ??

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