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    Does Dave damage his credibility by playing so few of his solo songs at his concerts?

    It seems to me that Dave might get more respect if he played more of his solo material at his concerts. The set lists I see for his concerts are usually all Van Halen and maybe one solo song like Yankee Rose.

    I think to a large extent this is why some people say Dave is living in the past. By not playing any of his solo material, it is as if Dave himself is saying that his solo stuff is no good.

    But this isn’t the case. His solo material is excellent. He has a lot of great stuff to draw from.

    There is nothing wrong with playing mostly Van Halen stuff. Dave is just trying to give the people want they want (unlike the Van Halen brothers). But how about 4 or 5 solo tunes rather than just one?

    Don’t you think playing more solo songs at his concerts would get Dave more respect?

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    I will respect Dave for playing whatever Dave wants to play, but yes... I would like to see more solo tunes, and even more importantly, more NEW STUFF!

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    I doubt if he really cares about garnering more respect, real or imagined.

    Believe this, noone compiles the set list but him, and if he wanted to do a FLM or ALAE heavy show everyone would go, "whatever you say Dave".

    Would he get more respect if he played more solo material?

    I doubt it.

    It'd be funny to see him dedicate "You got the blues, not me" to "his other band" every night though.

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    So are you saying you wouldn't like to hear at least a portion of that two to three albums worth of new material?

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    Not at all,

    He could come out and do freestyle rap (spankin' new!) to the "we will rock you" drum beat and I'd still give hella respect!

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    At the Casino Rama show on November 4 he sang at least 6 songs from his solo career. All were excellent.

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    I think I should pick Dave's set list!! :-) HAHA!!!
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    Originally posted by johnnybaby
    At the Casino Rama show on November 4 he sang at least 6 songs from his solo career. All were excellent.
    Which ones did he play?
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    man, I would love to hear Dave sing "Elephant Gun", "Bump N Grind",
    "Big Trouble", "Hammerhead Shark", "Damn Good", "Drop In the Bucket", "Last Call", "Big Train"...hell, I would go for "Easy Street"!

    last, but not least, how 'bout "HOT DOG @a SHAKE"...that's what I'm hungry fo...

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    Dave knows and respects his legacy. He knows he'll go down in history for "Jump" instead of "Yankee Rose."

    Dave has class. The Sisters don't.

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    I cant see the man worrying about his cred. He's earned my respect by simply having the guts to do what he wants, when he wants. Nuff said!!!

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    I'd like to hear him do anything live, as long as it's him y'know!
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    Originally posted by rustoffa
    He could come out and do freestyle rap (spankin' new!) to the "we will rock you" drum beat and I'd still give hella respect!

    That would most certainly be entertaining!
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    Most people who go to his shows are not Roth Army posters, and they are only familiar with Cali Girls, Gigilo, Yankee, and a few might remember Tobacco & Paradise. Most people who go to his shows want to hear the CVH tunes that the VH brothers have either butchered or ignored.

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    Tending to the legacy of Dave's historic contribution to Rock is cool but as others have said... He needs some new music out to balance things. The same setlist 4 years running with the exception of 2-3 different tunes is just a nostalgia trap that's played itself out IMO... Time to update or go setup camp in some Vegas club and become neighbors with Wayne Newton...
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    Originally posted by hotdog@ a shake
    man, I would love to hear Dave sing "Elephant Gun", "Bump N Grind",
    "Big Trouble", "Hammerhead Shark", "Damn Good", "Drop In the Bucket", "Last Call", "Big Train"...hell, I would go for "Easy Street"!

    last, but not least, how 'bout "HOT DOG @a SHAKE"...that's what I'm hungry fo...

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    Originally posted by dave_is_vh
    Which ones did he play?
    In Feb I believe he played 7 solo songs with 13 VH songs. They were:
    Yankee Rose
    Just A Gigolo
    Califonia Girls
    Just Like Paradise
    Crazy From The Heat - Fuckin' fantastic
    Shoo Bop
    I can't remember the last one................


    As for damaging his credibilty, I say no. Any song that Dave has sung is his song. He wants to sing these songs, whether it's with Van Halen, Vai or anyone. He wrote those lyrics, he's not gonna just ignore them like Ed does with CVH.
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    Originally posted by smaz
    In Feb I believe he played 7 solo songs with 13 VH songs. They were:
    Yankee Rose
    Just A Gigolo
    Califonia Girls
    Just Like Paradise
    Crazy From The Heat - Fuckin' fantastic
    Shoo Bop
    I can't remember the last one................


    As for damaging his credibilty, I say no. Any song that Dave has sung is his song. He wants to sing these songs, whether it's with Van Halen, Vai or anyone. He wrote those lyrics, he's not gonna just ignore them like Ed does with CVH.
    That is great to hear. He has so much great solo stuff. It is a waste not to play some of it.

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    i would like to hear more solo stuff. maybe, let's say, at least 1 song from each album, if not more. kinda like making it more of a "david lee roth" show rather than a "van halen cover band starring david lee roth" show. how about yankee rose and goin' crazy? then how about just like paradise, a little ain't enough, she's my machine, slam dunk? that's only half a dozen songs out of a show that is roughly 18 songs, but i think taking the time to play those songs would be making the statement "i DID have a career after van halen", and it would be making that statement in a huge way. plus i just love dave's solo stuff. i'd also like to hear either can't get this stuff no more or me wise magic live, rather than just letting those songs slip into obscurity as well. maybe play one at one show, the other at the next show, and rotate back and forth with each show.
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    Originally posted by dave_is_vh
    That is great to hear.
    They are indeed

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    On Thursday Dave played

    Just Like Paradise
    Just a Gigalo
    California Girls
    Goin' Crazy
    Shoo Bop
    Yankee Rose

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