Latest Dave concert in Minnesota

[4771eddievan]

Just got back from the show. I will qualify my review by stating up front that I have seen a few shows on the VH tour this year so kinda unfairly that is what I have to compare to.
First, location: Mystic Lake casino in Prior Lake Minnesota. Ballroom probably held about 2000 people and it was pretty full although good seats were available up to the last minute. Not a very good place to see a show. Pretty sterile. He played the same basic set that he has played since he went solo back around 1985. I have seen him plenty of times over the years and I sadly say that to me, most of the aura is gone. I know that isn't popular on this board but I think if you really look objectively you will come to the same conclusion.
The sound was ok but the backup vocals were WAY loud. You could barely hear Dave over the rest of the guys. Most of my aging concert mates were pretty dead throughout the show. Dave did his best to get all us going but not much luck.
Daves banter with the crowd was his typical shtick. Amusing but kinda corny and in my opinion he never really connected. Dave made no efforts to make contact with the crowd, didn't sign anything and only shook about 1 hand. To me this is kinda sad and when you compare it to the VH tour it is apples and oranges. Anyone who went to the VH shows and sat within the rings (I got to twice) will know what I am talkin about. If I could speak to Dave I'd say, "Dude, you are playing a casino in Minnesota in November! Shake some hands and make some effort to get us fans wantin' to come back". He never even made eye contact... He just did that thing where he blabbed to that imaginary person in the crowd.
Daves voice seems ok thought there were a couple of spots where it broke. He moved pretty good and the kicks are still head height. He wore the exact same clothes as that other casion show so look at those pics.
OVerall, to me the show was good, ok, but nothing special. Maybe it was the crap location or the diseased crowd. I can only compare it to the VH stadium show that to me were pretty fantastic. I know that ain't a popular opinion here but facts are facts. Eddie and the boys are playing stadiums and Dave is playing casinos. I would love a real Dave/VH reunion as much as anyone but we all know that ain't gonna happen.
I'd like to see others comments - rip me to pieces.

[spmusicplyr]

im gonna rip ya. ive called a spaid a spaid a few times on this board and i've gotten crucified. im not gonna rip ya up

i love dave...the aura is gone. i saw him live in '03...fun show though.
i would love to see solo stuff. a little aint enough... yea!!

[4771eddievan]

does anyone else see the similarity?? I don't want to be an asshole but you all gotta kinda admit that The Diamond and Diamond Dave are closer than we all thought...

[scottydabodi]

Sounds like a biased review to me... anyone else go that is a DAVE fan?

[twonabomber]

handshaking...bah.

you wanna shake hands, become a politician.

[twonabomber]

Originally posted by 4771eddievan
He wore the exact same clothes as that other casion show so look at those pics.

Ed's worn those pink pants for the whole friggin' tour...and Sam, let's not forget about his yellow capris and that stupid hat that we see him wearin' in every pic...but i mean, you should know that, you sat up close in the rings, and you seem to be a very objective type of idiot...

and setlists...other than those two new songs, it's the same setlist VHagar's been flogging the last couple tours...but that shouldn't bother you, because you went TWICE.

sucker!

[spmusicplyr]

wow the diamond and diamond dave actually look similar.

hey man theres too much fighting here...fuck!

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by spmusicplyr
wow the diamond and diamond dave actually look similar.

hey man theres too much fighting here...fuck!

so don't come here and post shit...

[Panamark]

Hey 4771eddievan,

Who informed you that we care what you say ????

[Ravenheart313]

I was at the show and had a blast. I've seen Dave counting tonight 4 times.
1st with Van Halen in 1981 that was a great show.
2nd time was the Sky Scraper tour what can you say other then Ed shouldn't be able to carry Steve Vai's guitar case.
3rd time was at the Minnesota State Fair it was a good show
But tonight I thought Dave was on. The crowd seemed to be getting into it. I mean I got more pictures of the guys arm in front of me then I wanted too but what ya gonna do. No he didn't shake hands so what I saw Drowning Pool at the Rock nightclub last Wednesday and they didn't shake any hands either. They did do some signing after the show but what was Dave there for to Sing or sign stuff for fans????
He did was he was there to do. If you didn't like it why didn't you leave?
I got a lot of pretty good pictures tonight and I'll post them if anyone wants me to.

[DavidLeeNatra]

are you nuts??? post them !!!!

[ashstralia]

Originally posted by 4771eddievan
does anyone else see the similarity?? I don't want to be an asshole but you all gotta kinda admit that The Diamond and Diamond Dave are closer than we all thought...

yes, they are both living legends......

[Ravenheart313]

Some of the photos

[Ravenheart313]

More

[Ravenheart313]

A little Air Guitar?

[Ravenheart313]

Dave being Dave

[Ravenheart313]

Put some feeling in to it...

[Ravenheart313]

That's all for now... I need to get some sleep...

[DavidLeeNatra]

THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!

[Ravenheart313]

I would have got better shots but the seats (not the best in the house and security was a pain in the but. So I shot them from my seat using the only zoom that I could with the low light. I have one zoom that would have shown if Dave shaved before the show but at such slow speeds they would have been so blurry you couldn't have seen anyway.
I was able to get about 200 shots in. About 45 or 50 that I would say are worth putting up. I'll get on that in the days to come and post some more. Had fun taking them and I'm glad I could share.

[fanofdave]

its always great to get updated DLR pics. Thanks!

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by 4771eddievan
Eddie and the boys are playing stadiums...

Sheeeyeah!

Hahahahahahaha, that is funny. Where did you hear this? On the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather? Stadiums... hahahahahahahah !!

You sound real credible there, pal. Yep.... Mr. Objectivity himself, ladies and gentlemen.

[Golden AWe]

Originally posted by Panamark
Hey 4771eddievan,

Who informed you that we care what you say ????

He wasn't even in the show. This thread start is a fake one.

[4771eddievan]

hey Golden AWe, I was Tier C, Row S, seat 107 and 108. Fake thread and fake review? I think not. Sorry all you super fans don't want even close to an honest review. You are all exactly right, Dave is still just as good as he was in 1985 and nothing has changed.... Come'on... I saw the Eat'em and Smile tour too. That was amazing!!! An amazing band behind him, not a Weird Al look-alike and a bunch of other studio guys. Trust me, I still love Dave and all the music he helped create but sometimes you have to take that long hard look in the mirror. Sorry to burst all your bubbles.
And to those who rip on the VH tour, I saw them in 3 different states with varying numbers of crowds. St. Paul was full, Moline Il was near capacity and Fargo was empty. Why must you all be in this huge pissing match with a band that Roth was in 2 decades ago. Time to let go of some of the angst.

[lms2]

Great Pictures. Thanks for sharing.

[Golden AWe]

Originally posted by 4771eddievan
hey Golden AWe, I was Tier C, Row S, seat 107 and 108. Fake thread and fake review? I think not. Sorry all you super fans don't want even close to an honest review. You are all exactly right, Dave is still just as good as he was in 1985 and nothing has changed.... Come'on... I saw the Eat'em and Smile tour too. That was amazing!!! An amazing band behind him, not a Weird Al look-alike and a bunch of other studio guys. Trust me, I still love Dave and all the music he helped create but sometimes you have to take that long hard look in the mirror. Sorry to burst all your bubbles.
And to those who rip on the VH tour, I saw them in 3 different states with varying numbers of crowds. St. Paul was full, Moline Il was near capacity and Fargo was empty. Why must you all be in this huge pissing match with a band that Roth was in 2 decades ago. Time to let go of some of the angst.

angst? what angst? who said dave is the same as '85? there are anonymoys users like you two, three a week who come here "to tell the truth". gets boring to hear the same shit over and over again, we already have threads for that. other kind of morons have "the sheep pen" and "now they're gonna put you into the pen". you sound like a wanker but please don't feed them.

you needed two seats? you must be a big boy?

why would you go to a hagar-concert? you must be a moron to buy 6 van hagar-tickets.

[Matt White]

Ravenheart313, BRAVO! 5 star vote to you sir!

And for the haters, who cares what a couple of pimply faced turdburglers think of DAVE.

Some of us appreciate DAVE now, as much as we did back in the day.

[4771eddievan]

ouch!
Good to see you all put out the welcome wagon for newer members...

If you read my review carefully I actually said that the show was good. I am not a basher of either group and I would hope you guys could be a little more critical. I kinda see that is not gonna be possible when you have a "sammy hagar insult generator" but at least give it a try.

I am not here to "tell the truth" or expose Dave. I am sure he's a great guy. I get the whole stage show thing he does but it seems a bit canned now.

and to quickly address the two seats thing (I'll give you credit for a good rip) I went with someone else and they were the ones who said "He looks just like Neil Diamond" when the show ended.

[diamondsgirl]

Originally posted by 4771eddievan
Just got back from the show. I will qualify my review by stating up front that I have seen a few shows on the VH tour this year

Fucking Hagar fan. Typical.

[lms2]

David looks like David. Nuff said on that.

I try not to bash people for giving sharing their opinions, but you only have to read the name of this site to guess how any opinion taken that casts any shadow of doubt on the greatness that is DAVID LEE ROTH will be met.

Get over it.

[diamondsgirl]

Originally posted by Ravenheart313
I would have got better shots but the seats (not the best in the house and security was a pain in the but. So I shot them from my seat using the only zoom that I could with the low light. I have one zoom that would have shown if Dave shaved before the show but at such slow speeds they would have been so blurry you couldn't have seen anyway.
I was able to get about 200 shots in. About 45 or 50 that I would say are worth putting up. I'll get on that in the days to come and post some more. Had fun taking them and I'm glad I could share.

Ravenheart, you're the best! Such good photography!.

Thank you for the great pics! Looking forward to seeing more. Glad you enjoyed the show!

[4771eddievan]

at least stirring this pot is kinda fun. I especially like how we all have to rate our "fandom" and worship the same God.

[diamondsgirl]

Originally posted by 4771eddievan
Why must you all be in this huge pissing match with a band that Roth was in 2 decades ago.

Hey moron, look at the beginning of your first post. YOU came here and compared the two.

[diamondsgirl]

Originally posted by 4771eddievan
at least stirring this pot is kinda fun. I especially like how we all have to rate our "fandom" and worship the same God.

thats what we do here...don't like it...get the fuck out!

[4771eddievan]

oh yeah, and in my review I am pretty sure I blamed the atmosphere. This was a diseased place to see a concert and the security staff (guy wearing the Tan suit coat especially...) were pricks. Kinda weird to go to a show and be able to walk freely with your arms spread between the front row and the front of the stage.

[lms2]

You would probably go to an AA meeting and complain that everyone you met had a drinking problem.

[diamondsgirl]

Originally posted by 4771eddievan
I have seen him plenty of times over the years and I sadly say that to me, most of the aura is gone. I know that isn't popular on this board but I think if you really look objectively you will come to the same conclusion.
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and a double fuck you for implying that we are lying to ourselves about the greatness that still is Roth. Folks here have seen him plenty on this tour and we all agree that NOTHING is gone. We don't need you or your opinion to open our eyes.

[4771eddievan]

you are all correct... It was the greatest show since the Beatles played their rooftop fairwell. You all should have seen Dave jumping off the rotating drum riser! I swear he was 40 feet in the air! Then he did this 19 foot karate kick and it went through a solid brick wall. I think he played for 10 hours just to appease the fans that would not stop asking for more! The chants of "we want more!" echoed throughout the halls of the 90,000 seat arena. It was amazing and I am gonna go to all the shows on the tour! Hell, I might even try to hitch a ride on the private jet that flies him all around the world.

[diamondsgirl]

Originally posted by 4771eddievan
you are all correct... It was the greatest show since the Beatles played their rooftop fairwell. You all should have seen Dave jumping off the rotating drum riser! I swear he was 40 feet in the air! Then he did this 19 foot karate kick and it went through a solid brick wall. I think he played for 10 hours just to appease the fans that would not stop asking for more! The chants of "we want more!" echoed throughout the halls of the 90,000 seat arena. It was amazing and I am gonna go to all the shows on the tour! Hell, I might even try to hitch a ride on the private jet that flies him all around the world.

have a nice trip...don't forget your meds

[4771eddievan]

and I was convinced of the greatness of the show by all you uber fans who were not there. Thank you for your highly enlightened opinions.