CNN has reported that Colin Powell will step down as Secretary of State. He resigned Friday and it is pending Bush's acceptance.
CNN has reported that Colin Powell will step down as Secretary of State. He resigned Friday and it is pending Bush's acceptance.
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Not too surprising. Well, his credibility was completely shattered as far as I'm concerned. I certainly would not want to negotiate with him.
Powell was a good guy though. The best of gw's cabinet. So of course he comes out damaged goods.
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Powell was a good guy. I'll be sorry to see him go...
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Of course, I was more upset to see Ashcroft leave.
Thank God he's still here, kicking ass at the Army...
Maybe he can somehow buy his dignity back now, but it's probably too late for his soul.
The bad news here is that so far, all of those jumping ship are NOT the PNAC'ers. That is definitely not painting a good picture of Fourth Reich : Act II
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Hopefully they'll find another deep-thinking moderate to counteract Cheney and Rummy.
Secretary of Energy Spence Abraham will also leave. In addition to the already known Sec of Education (Many Child's Left Behind & "The NEA is a terrorist organization") Ron Paige.
Also, one more major figure will leave today reportedly.
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Please get rid of Condi. She should have resigned on 9/12/01.
I want to see the PNAC neocon zionfascists purged immediately. Israeli spies have no business in our nations capitol. Unfortunately, this round of defections seems to be doing exactly the opposite.
Things are looking darker all the time
Originally posted by FORD
I want to see the PNAC neocon zionfascists purged immediately. Israeli spies have no business in our nations capitol. Unfortunately, this round of defections seems to be doing exactly the opposite.
Things are looking darker all the time
FORD, do you really think they'll give up their stranglehold on power? We both know the answer.
Colin Powell resigns
Further Cabinet resignations expected
Monday, November 15, 2004 Posted: 10:29 AM EST (1529 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell has submitted his resignation to President Bush, the White House said on Monday.
Powell is the most prominent of four Cabinet officials whose resignations will be announced Monday, sources told CNN.
The others will be Agriculture Secretary Anne Veneman, Education Secretary Rod Paige and Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham, the sources said.
Powell told his senior staff that he planned to stay on until a replacement was confirmed, State Department officials said.
State Department officials told CNN that Bush and Powell decided mutually that it was time for him to go.
The officials said that Powell plans to keep working on a number of key issues, including North Korean nuclear talks, the Iraqi elections scheduled for January and Middle East peace process.
Powell was scheduled to travel to Egypt next week for a conference on Iraq.
A senior official said Monday that the State Department was trying to arrange a meeting between Powell and the new Palestinian leadership, but added the details have not been worked out. A date and place have not been set, the official said.
The official made the comment after Palestinian Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath told reporters in Gaza City that Powell was expected to meet with the leadership next week in the West Bank.
Rumors have swirled about Powell's role in a second Bush administration, but neither the president nor the secretary had spoken publicly about his future.
Last week, when asked if he wanted Powell to stay on to oversee the Mideast peace process Bush told reporters: "I'm proud of my secretary of state. He's done a heck of a good job."
Powell told reporters that he had had several conversations with the president, but would not comment on what they said.
Secretary of State Colin Powell plans to stay on until his replacement is confirmed, officials say. "Buh-bye bitch!"
Moderates by definition aren't "deep-thinking" individuals.Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Hopefully they'll find another deep-thinking moderate to counteract Cheney and Rummy.
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WASHINGTON (Nov. 15) -- Secretary of State Colin Powell, who pleaded President Bush's case for ousting Iraq's Saddam Hussein to a skeptical U.N. Security Council, told top aides Monday he will resign from the Cabinet, high-ranking State Department officials said.
Powell, who long has been rumored planning only a single term with Bush, told his aides that he intends to leave once Bush settles on whom to succeed him, said the officials, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Word of Powell's imminent departure kicked off a new week of Cabinet shuffling for Bush, who is planning his second term.
Besides Powell, others whose resignations were confirmed Monday included Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman, Education Secretary Rod Paige and Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham.
White House press secretary Scott McClellan said he did not expect any announcements Monday on replacements
The White House was preparing an announcement to confirm Powell's resignation. According to one official, Powell expects that his departure date will be sometime in January. It was not immediately clear whether he would leave before Bush's second inauguration, on Jan 20.
Most of the speculation on a successor has centered on U.N. Ambassador John Danforth, a Republican and former U.S. senator from Missouri, and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice.
Powell has had a controversial tenure in the secretary of state's job, reportedly differing on some key issues at various junctures with Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld. Powell, however, has generally had good relations with his counterparts around the world, although his image standing has been strained by the U.S.-led war in Iraq.
Powell, a former chairman of the military Joint Chiefs of Staff, led the Bush administration argument at the United Nations for a military attack to oust Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, arguing a weapons-of-mass-destruction threat that the administration could never buttress.
Powell submitted his letter of resignation to the President on Friday. He will go about his usual schedule and will continue at full speed until a successor is named and in place, a senior administration said.
Powell was scheduled to meet later Monday with Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom and was to attend a meeting of Asian officials in Chile Wednesday and a mutinational conference on Iraq next week.
He told some two dozen staff members of his projected departure at the start of the day.
For many months, Powell had been viewed as a one-term secretary of state but he has always been vague about his intentions. He had said repeatedly in recent weeks that he serves at ''the pleasure of the president.''
One senior official said that Powell's departure was part of a much broader Cabinet shakeup, details of which should be disclosed soon.
There had been speculation that Powell might elect to stay on until after the Iraqi elections at the end of January, but the senior official made no reference to that possibility.
Iraq has dominated Powell's attention during his nearly four years as secretary of state. Powell will perhaps be best remembered for that U.N. Security Council appearance on Feb. 5, 2003, during which he argued that Saddam must be removed because of its possession of weapons of mass destruction.
There is no evidence that those claims had any foundation. Powell has maintained all along that the use of force of by the American coalition in Iraq was justified.
Maybe he's wakin up and does'nt want to be one of BUSH'S sheep anymore...BUHBYE
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What's the definition of a deep thinking individual, on who takes orders from God?Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Moderates by definition aren't "deep-thinking" individuals.
I agree. She sure didn't do her job whatsoever. Nice that she left a detailed report on reported plane attacks on buildings in New York sitting on her desk since August, unread.Originally posted by ODShowtime
Please get rid of Condi. She should have resigned on 9/12/01.
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Nope. It's one who doesn't believe the government knows how to take care of their personal business better than they do.Originally posted by Nickdfresh
What's the definition of a deep thinking individual, on who takes orders from God?
Which is why it was ridiculous and hypocritical for you and your conservative buddies to vote for somebody because they vow to make something illegal that is no one's god-damned business.Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Nope. It's one who doesn't believe the government knows how to take care of their personal business better than they do.
No doubt. First time I haven't voted Republican in my life, just over this issue.Originally posted by ODShowtime
Which is why it was ridiculous and hypocritical for you and your conservative buddies to vote for somebody because they vow to make something illegal that is no one's god-damned business.
P.S.- Gee, FORD- it's been at least 5 years and I see not a damn thing has changed.
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Wait a minute.....Originally posted by b1c2
No doubt. First time I haven't voted Republican in my life, just over this issue.
P.S.- Gee, FORD- it's been at least 5 years and I see not a damn thing has changed.
YOU didn't vote Republican???
Hey, who says miracles don't happen anymore
And what's supposed to change? I never liked Junior, so why should I start now, when you seem not to care for him yourself?
MLU as always,
Actually I didn't vote at all this year. Don't like Kerry, couldn't support Bush because of his feelings on gay marriage. I do, however, fully support his efforts on the war. After all, he is still my boss.
What's supposed to change!?! LOTS! Ranting didn't affect the outcome, just elevated your blood pressure and pissed people off. Remember what my dear SOUTHERN mother taught me, you'll catch more flies with sugar than honey.
Drop me a line sometime and give me an update on your life. Hope all is well w/the family, L & J, etc.
If that's the case, Richard Clarke should have committed suicide for the travesty he left this nation in.Originally posted by ODShowtime
Please get rid of Condi. She should have resigned on 9/12/01.
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Wrong. Richard Clarke tried to warn the BCE about Bin Laden. They deliberately ignored him, and took him off of terrorism.Originally posted by BigBadBrian
If that's the case, Richard Clarke should have committed suicide for the travesty he left this nation in.
Why, because they wanted an attack on this country, a "new PERLE Harbor" to justify the PNAC agenda.
Originally posted by FORD
Wrong. Richard Clarke tried to warn the BCE about Bin Laden. They deliberately ignored him, and took him off of terrorism.
Why, because they wanted an attack on this country, a "new PERLE Harbor" to justify the PNAC agenda.
Oh PUHleese! Tell me you don't really believe that! No one wanted an attack on our nation except the morons that did it and those that supported them. It wasn't a conspiracy, it was a fucking tragedy and now we're tasked with taking care of the whole mess. Could things have been handled better? Sure but excuse us, we've never had planes ran into our buildings, we've never had our own citizens used as missles against more of our own. It wasn't like there was a LOI on how to deal with this. No one believed this could really happen. We should have believed it but didn't. A mistake, yes. A conspiracy, nope.
Most sense I've heard all day--first Five Stars for you.Originally posted by b1c2
Oh PUHleese! Tell me you don't really believe that! No one wanted an attack on our nation except the morons that did it and those that supported them. It wasn't a conspiracy, it was a fucking tragedy and now we're tasked with taking care of the whole mess. Could things have been handled better? Sure but excuse us, we've never had planes ran into our buildings, we've never had our own citizens used as missles against more of our own. It wasn't like there was a LOI on how to deal with this. No one believed this could really happen. We should have believed it but didn't. A mistake, yes. A conspiracy, nope.
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
If that's the case, Richard Clarke should have committed suicide for the travesty he left this nation in.
A complete falsehood. Clark tried to warn Condi and was ignored. This is well documented.
That little whore Condi deliberately cut Clark out of meetings and she lied before the 9/11 Commission, but it's okay 'cause she looked good doing it!Originally posted by ODShowtime
A complete falsehood. Clark tried to warn Condi and was ignored. This is well documented.
Oh and guess who's up for SECSTATE? Condi!
All we do is reward incompetence.
Wow, thanks. I'm honored. Right back atcha too.Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Most sense I've heard all day--first Five Stars for you.
Considering Dickie Crashcart and his Pet Chimp are the 2 biggest incompetents and serial failures on this planet, that really shouldn't be a surprise.Originally posted by ODShowtime
Oh and guess who's up for SECSTATE? Condi!
All we do is reward incompetence.
A black woman as SECSTATE?
Pure politics, nothing else.
uhh... not really.Originally posted by Nickdfresh
but it's okay 'cause she looked good doing it!
I was speaking about the "Oprah" lovin' crowd that seemed infatuated with her supposed charm while ignoring the fact she either dodged or spun every question she was asked. She is your typical lazy cabinet level Bush official.Originally posted by ODShowtime
uhh... not really.
I don't find her attractive personally. But if I had a six-pack in me...who knows? There was a very funny Bloom County a few months back in which Opus gives Condi a sensual foot massage--great stuff!
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I know what you really meant. I was just taking an easy swing at the gremlin-lookin' bitch.Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I don't find her attractive personally. But if I had a six-pack in me...who knows?
What's wrong with a black woman as Secretary of State?Originally posted by FORD
Considering Dickie Crashcart and his Pet Chimp are the 2 biggest incompetents and serial failures on this planet, that really shouldn't be a surprise.
A black woman as SECSTATE?
Pure politics, nothing else.
I thought liberals were for equal rights.
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Originally posted by Warham
What's wrong with a black woman as Secretary of State?
I thought liberals were for equal rights.
That's another lie, Warham! And Ford wonders why I called him out on his closet Klan member status? His post you quoted settles my case right there.
Would you be more comfortable if she was serving tea and washing dishes, Ford? Using that 'logic', the new Attorney General's a publicity stunt, too, to get the wetback vote.
2004, almost 2005 yet people of color are STILL relegated to the back of the bus.
That's fucked up!
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Or should she be out working the cotton gin?
As long as blacks stay on the plantation, liberal's have no problem with them.
Hell, remember the memo from the Judicial Committee?
Originally posted by Switch84
Using that 'logic', the new Attorney General's a publicity stunt, too, to get the wetback vote.
You're probably not too far off the liberal's point of conspiracy view...
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If that's the standard, then how dare Geraldine Ferraro, the libs biggest female star of the 80's, run on the Democratic ticket in 1984!
She had no right! She should have been home baking cookies!
Oh great, now we have "zionfascist" running the country.
Tell me something FORD, just what exactly is your neighbor's dog telling you?
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Originally posted by Warham
What's wrong with a black woman as Secretary of State?
I thought liberals were for equal rights.
Well, she's an "zionfascist" after all.
How about a competent African-American woman who doesn't lie like a rug to the 9/11 Commission. But the Bush Admin. rewards failure and stupidity in order to make the Prez. look good!
By the way Condi-bady Osama's not a threat so let's just ignore him!
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