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Thread: Eddie Van Halen ---> Final Meltdown in Arizona--->November 19, 2004.

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    Best news of the year.

    If it's true!
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    Originally posted by WARF
    Best news of the year.

    If it's true!
    Too much corroboration from fans for this to not be true.

    I love it. The final nail in the coffin for VAN HAGAR.
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    JMJ is one of the biggest sheep in all of Van Hagar land.

    If he says Van Hagar is over, I believe him.

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    Reading that thread over at the Links made me quickly realize why I never post there.

    No matter when you were born, for people to say they "prefer" Sammy over Dave never ceases to put me damn near cardiac arrest.
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    It's like accidentally opening the door to an outhouse.

    It's instant disgust and revulsion, then you just gasp for oxygen and close the door and run.
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    Originally posted by Lou
    Reading that thread over at the Links made me quickly realize why I never post there.

    No matter when you were born, for people to say they "prefer" Sammy over Dave never ceases to put me damn near cardiac arrest.
    Actually I am more fucking pissed at the sterotype of being called, "Not a true fan" ... because I'm in my 20's.

    I am a fan of good music.

    Van Hagar is not good music.

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    WOW!

    Ed needs some intervention and quickly. He needs to sober up and make ammends with Dave. Even if they never play together again, its the demons of resentment that are making him this crazy. Drinking in excess is just a sympton of the disease. It goes much deeper.
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    Originally posted by WARF
    Actually I am more fucking pissed at the sterotype of being called, "Not a true fan" ... because I'm in my 20's.

    I am a fan of good music.

    Van Hagar is not good music.
    Exactly, WARF....

    5 stars.
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    So Ed's finally flipped in public. I can't really say that I'm surprised by any of this after ringing journo's earlier in the tour to complain about his reviews.
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    Originally posted by diamondsgirl
    WOW!

    Ed needs some intervention and quickly. He needs to sober up and make ammends with Dave. Even if they never play together again, its the demons of resentment that are making him this crazy. Drinking in excess is just a sympton of the disease. It goes much deeper.

    I'm sure it's a combination of a lot of things. The dude probably wasn't well enough to be out there at all this year. I really hope he can turn things around for himself, and that he wants to. He may not even realize he's in bad shape.

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    Originally posted by baltimoreoriole
    You better get your information from someone who had better seats than the 125 row and drinking Schlitz before during and after the concert.
    What was Ed doing up there? Bummin' a smoke?
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    I just dont think it's in Ed's heart to be doing this. Let's face it. Ed is a full blown Alchy. Mood swings, tantrums... He isn't going to get along with people. Lets not klick him well he's down. I ache for him. This isn't funny, It VERY SAD. Anyone laughing has not LIVED with an alcholic with a mind deranged from alcoholism. Imagine what those kids were thinking. Just for a minute stop thinking of DAVE, stop thinking of THE MUSIC and think like a human being. Sorry folks, I love this board and alot of you peeps, but there is NOTHING funny about this behavior.
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    "Black Friday" will be a day LONG REMEMBERED by us!

    I just hope somebody can get us some video (preferably) or audio soon....
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    Originally posted by LickMyCream
    "Last night, I threw 2 hats @ EVH for what he did to Sammy: He took his guitar & was simulating RAMMING IT UP SAM'S ASS.

    Sammy was in shock.

    The band was in shock. "

    ROFL!!
    What's funny is that Eddie did that with Gary on the VDIII tour, but the meaning was entirely different.
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    Just fuckin' wild, man...the second you think it's gonna be a slow news week...lol

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    LMAO... "Black Friday"... The Roth Army equivalent of 9/11. (Now was that politically incorrect or what? )
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    Originally posted by FORD
    What's funny is that Eddie did that with Gary on the VDIII tour, but the meaning was entirely different.
    What a travesty!


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    Originally posted by Coyote
    LMAO... "Black Friday"...
    Seriously, I think the whole day should be remembered as "Black Friday" and celebrated annually...

    I can ONLY IMAGINE what's going on behind the doors of 5150 this morning....lmao

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    Originally posted by Coyote
    The Roth Army equivalent of 9/11. (Now was that politically incorrect or what? )
    Except that 9/11 was a disaster...this is "divine intervention"...

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    Originally posted by WARF
    What a travesty!

    That means that Ed had his foot up Gary's ass all that time.

    Whereas Al's had his dick up Sam's ass since day one (of Van Hagar, I say!)

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    Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
    I just dont think it's in Ed's heart to be doing this. Let's face it. Ed is a full blown Alchy. Mood swings, tantrums... He isn't going to get along with people. Lets not klick him well he's down. I ache for him. This isn't funny, It VERY SAD. Anyone laughing has not LIVED with an alcholic with a mind deranged from alcoholism. Imagine what those kids were thinking. Just for a minute stop thinking of DAVE, stop thinking of THE MUSIC and think like a human being. Sorry folks, I love this board and alot of you peeps, but there is NOTHING funny about this behavior.

    No, what's funny is for years the sheep have blamed everything on DAVE while insisting that Van Hagar got along as happily as their cheese ballads would suggest. Ed's horrible playing throughout this entire tour proves that last night's incident was not a fluke, that the tour was all about money, and that Eddie is the problem in this band.

    The last thing a raging lunatic alcoholic in that state of mind needs is his sheep or his brother enabling his pathetic drunken ass anymore, he needs to be locked up in a padded cell at Betty Ford. Or since he's in Tucson anyway, send him up the road to that facility where Mush Limpdick did his rehab.

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    Originally posted by bueno bob
    Except that 9/11 was a disaster...this is "divine intervention"...
    Oh, yeah. I forgot. Damn whiskey...

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    Originally posted by Coyote
    Oh, yeah. I forgot. Damn whiskey...
    Hey man, the day's early...and this here mother fuckin' party's gonna last for at least the next week! Go easy on that shit!

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    Originally posted by FORD
    No, what's funny is for years the sheep have blamed everything on DAVE while insisting that Van Hagar got along as happily as their cheese ballads would suggest. Ed's horrible playing throughout this entire tour proves that last night's incident was not a fluke, that the tour was all about money, and that Eddie is the problem in this band.

    The last thing a raging lunatic alcoholic in that state of mind needs is his sheep or his brother enabling his pathetic drunken ass anymore, he needs to be locked up in a padded cell at Betty Ford. Or since he's in Tucson anyway, send him up the road to that facility where Mush Limpdick did his rehab.
    Couldn't have said it better myself!

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    For you it's early. It's 10PM out here in Funland! And it's Miami Vice time too... So if you'll excuse me...

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    Only a day ago, I was wondering to myself how it would all end.
    Ed probably thought he was going out in a blaze of glory... stupid drunk bastard.
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    Originally posted by Coyote
    For you it's early. It's 10PM out here in Funland! And it's Miami Vice time too... So if you'll excuse me...
    oops, my bad!

    Did Funland just get Miami Vice on TV?

    Sorry, I'm a tool, I know...lol...

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    LMAO...


    I'd love to stay and shoot the shit, but I gotta jet. A friend/bandmate invited me over to watch it. And drink loads of B33R!!

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    Somebody get this link to Eddie

    http://www.sierratucson.com/welcome.php

    If you gotta do rehab, you couldn't be in a better location

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    Originally posted by FORD
    No, what's funny is for years the sheep have blamed everything on DAVE while insisting that Van Hagar got along as happily as their cheese ballads would suggest. Ed's horrible playing throughout this entire tour proves that last night's incident was not a fluke, that the tour was all about money, and that Eddie is the problem in this band.

    The last thing a raging lunatic alcoholic in that state of mind needs is his sheep or his brother enabling his pathetic drunken ass anymore, he needs to be locked up in a padded cell at Betty Ford. Or since he's in Tucson anyway, send him up the road to that facility where Mush Limpdick did his rehab.
    Can ya pull your head out of your Sam vs Dave ass mindset for possibly 5 minutes and explore the possibility that the problem with this band is acutally the fact that this man is acloholic who can't get along with ANYONE? Not Dave's fault, not Sam's fault, NOT Ed's fault! He's a fucking alcoholic. Everybody keeps coming back to him TRYING to make it work, KNOWING full well that IT'S NEVER GONNA CHANGE! What's that saying? About doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? Com'on FORD gimme a BREAK! The man is a great guitar player and these guys WANT to work with him, alcoholic or not. When the cookie crumbles, they need not point fingers, they knew what they were getting themselves into.
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    I'm so glad its over either way.
    The end of this disgrace has finally arrived and in glorious fashion.
    I hope Eddie was being truthful when he said "never again"
    No more Spam. Ever.
    Even if there's no more Dave, fine, no more Spam.
    Hallelujah!
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    Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
    Can ya pull your head out of your Sam vs Dave ass mindset for possibly 5 minutes and explore the possibility that the problem with this band is acutally the fact that this man is alcoholic who can't get along with ANYONE?
    I see what you're saying, but the problem with Ed is Ed. Frankly, if Ed wants to drink himself into the grave, I say the mother fucker can knock himself out. He knows he needs the help and all he's done is surround himself by yes-men who'll enable his behavior and spin it off at any given opportunity, and YES, that means Alex too. I've known enough alcoholics in my time to know that they've got nobody but themselves to blame for their behavior, no matter how many "outside influences" they try and site in a pathetic attempt to escape personal responsibility for themselves.

    Of course, Ed's a big boy. If he wants to check himself in, great. But he probably won't, so nobody's to blame for it but himself.

    Frankly, I don't want David anywhere near this train wreck of a band and I hope Van Halen just fades away like a bad rash.

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    Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
    Can ya pull your head out of your Sam vs Dave ass mindset for possibly 5 minutes and explore the possibility that the problem with this band is acutally the fact that this man is acloholic who can't get along with ANYONE? Not Dave's fault, not Sam's fault, NOT Ed's fault! He's a fucking alcoholic. Everybody keeps coming back to him TRYING to make it work, KNOWING full well that IT'S NEVER GONNA CHANGE! What's that saying? About doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? Com'on FORD gimme a BREAK! The man is a great guitar player and these guys WANT to work with him, alcoholic or not. When the cookie crumbles, they need not point fingers, they knew what they were getting themselves into.
    Can you fucking READ, bitch??

    I said that SHEEP like you need to quit enabling the son of a bitch and he needs to be locked up in inpatient treatment.

    Now you wanna tell me where the "Sam Vs Dave" is in that??

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    It's really hard to feel sorry for Ed right now. I do, however, feel bad for Valerie and Wolf.
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    Originally posted by light 'em up!
    It's really hard to feel sorry for Ed right now. I do, however, feel bad for Valerie and Wolf.
    Exactly. Val and Wolf are the people who have to watch him self destruct from up close and personal.

    As far as Ed's concerned...he's made his own bed. If he wants to get straight, good for him, but I don't think it's gonna happen anytime in the near future. Oh well.

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    Fab,

    Obviously Eddie is an alcoholic and a certain part of me does feel sorry for him.

    But let's keep it real, he's had every tool available to him to get cleaned up and yet he continues to get worse. And he's been a dick for years, sober or drunk.
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    Originally posted by Chris
    Fab,

    Obviously Eddie is an alcoholic and a certain part of me does feel sorry for him.

    But let's keep it real, he's had every tool available to him to get cleaned up and yet he continues to get worse. And he's been a dick for years, sober or drunk.
    That's the truth!

    Five star vote for you, my man!

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    Originally posted by Chris

    Obviously Eddie is an alcoholic and a certain part of me does feel sorry for him.

    I don't feel sorry for him.

    If Ed is too much of a weak, destructive asshole to put the bottle down then fuck him.

    I am tired of people hand holding/coddling/enabling drug addicts and alcoholics. All the excuses in the world don't change one simple fact: alcoholism is a weakness not a fucking illness.

    I love people that belly up to the bar night in and night out, light up a butt and tell the world about all the great things they plan on doing. This is the catfish element of society; bottom feeders who exist on shit and scum (and my tax dollars of course).

    Ed, you are a fucking failure as a human being and a disgrace as a father. Drunk bum/piece of shit. Someday your money will run out, your hands will shake and your playing days will be over. What will you do then?

    Mezro...losers will always find excuses and excuses will always find losers...
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    Originally posted by thepunisher
    I'm so glad its over either way.
    The end of this disgrace has finally arrived and in glorious fashion.
    I hope Eddie was being truthful when he said "never again"
    No more Spam. Ever.
    Even if there's no more Dave, fine, no more Spam.
    Hallelujah!
    Couldn't agree more with you.
    Sammy is a sh%$@
    As long as Sammy is out, nothing else MATTERS
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    For some people, the tools dont work... regardless of how much they WANT to change the pattern, they cant beat it. The people in their lives need to move on. Obviously Dave has. Val has removed herself and her son from the day to day dealings with him and she has allowed wolf to maintain a supervised ralationship with his father. Ed's been been a dick for years because he's been a drunk for most of his adult life.

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