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    Hopefully ... we did upgrade the line also in free agency.

    Hell, the real QB of the future may be the 6-5 230 Orvolosky (sp) out of UConn we drafted in the 5th I believe.

    This being Joey's 4th season, even with the youth at the skill positions, he has to come through. Brees finally made some noise, hoping Joey will.
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    Lions Secondary Will Enter Camp Strong As Ever

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    With the addition of seven-year veteran R.W. McQuarters to the roster, the Lions will go to training camp next month assured of stiff competition at the cornerback position.

    With the addition of seven-year veteran R.W. McQuarters to the roster, the Lions will go to training camp next month assured of stiff competition at the cornerback position.

    The roster will include 10 cornerbacks. Five of them have started at one time or another in the NFL and another three are young players the Lions feel can develop into capable players.


    At the top of the list are two-time Pro Bowl cornerback Dre' Bly , McQuarters and Fernando Bryant , who was signed by the Lions as an unrestricted free agent a year ago but missed much of the 2004 season with an ankle injury.

    Next in line are Andre Goodman and Chris Cash , three year veterans drafted in 2002 who have had limited success - in part because of injury problems.

    Keith Smith , a third-round pick in the 2004 draft, made a good impression as a rookie and is almost certain to make the roster; Stanley Wilson , this year's third-round pick, has excellent speed and promising coverage ability; and Michael Echols, a third-year player plucked from Minnesota's practice squad late last season.

    Jeff Sanchez , who played in NFL Europe this spring, and undrafted rookie Brandon Payne of New Mexico, have their work cut out for them just to get consideration for the practice squad.

    The Lions also added veteran strong safety Kenoy Kennedy , an unrestricted free agent from Denver, to the secondary.

    "This is the best our defensive backs have looked in a long time," said Lions president Matt Millen.

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    I had no idea they signed McQuarters.
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    They felt it better to go that route as he has played some safety also than to gamble on Ty Law, who was 20 lbs overweight but had started running. The Lions know Law wants still the prime CB money, although not sure what team would.

    The foot is still a question. McQuarters playing for Mooch before didn't hurt. And the fact they are at a standstill with KR Eddie Drummond might have had some influence.

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    Mariucci Claims Off-Season "By Far" Team's Best

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    June 26, 2005 at 1:02am ET


    (ALLEN PARK) -- After four years and a steady diet of losing game after game, it might take more than personnel changes to get the Lions back to respectability. And that is what coach Steve Mariucci has been working on during the six months since the end of the 2004 NFL season.

    Mariucci is hoping to establish a new attitude on this year's team, in addition to getting his players physically prepared for the start of training camp in late July and the regular season in September.


    "I think these guys are very in tune to what sort of calendar year we expect from them in terms of the entire body at work," Mariucci said. "From the 14 weeks in the off-season through the mini-camps, through being in shape before they get to training camp, the certain tempo in the way we practice and developing a certain work ethic."

    Although Lions coaches seem to inevitably say "this year's" off-season workouts are the best ever, it has done little for the team's fortunes the past four years.

    The Lions were 2-14 in 2001, 3-13 in 2002, 5-11 in 2003 and 6-10 last year. Although there has been improvement every year, it is at a pace that won't get them back to .500 for two more seasons and into a contender's role for another two or three years after that.

    In Mariucci's third season, he is hoping that the combination of physical preparation and mental attitude will accelerate the pace of the Lions return to respectability.

    "A system and a philosophy have to be ingrained and we are doing that, and we have done that," he said. "There are new faces every year to incorporate but I have been really pleased with this off-season so far this has been by far our best off-season."

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    Mooch has his hands full and no Walsh looking from topside to bail him out...only sad sack Millen!

    He'll be outta there this season.
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    The Fords love these guys and are notoriously loyal, they won't be gone before their contracts are up. And I believe they want to resign Millen, who has done a good job with building the team through the draft.

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    Originally posted by ALinChainz
    The Fords love these guys and are notoriously loyal, they won't be gone before their contracts are up. And I believe they want to resign Millen, who has done a good job with building the team through the draft.

    ????

    WHAT!

    The Ford's are a collection of dolts that couldn't be trusted with the "keys" to the automotive empire so they went out and bought a toy for them to get them out of their hair!

    They don't care about wins and losses. They only care about attendance and concession revenue!

    As far as loyalty...I could go on and on and on about how they've shafted everyone they could from players to coaches! They don't know the meaning of the word. Everyone is viewed as a gardner to them. "You're paid help...don't tell me what to do and don't talk to me!".

    If they cared about their fans then they would've won something, but they don't and it clearly shows. Their draft picks are the same tried and true bullshit smoke and mirrors that Wayne Fontes was doing way back when. CB, LB, QB, RB...try picking up an entire offensive line you fucking idiots!!!

    The Lions will NEVER go anywhere near the Promised Land with the likes of the Ford family at the helm...just remember you heard it here.

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    The Lions were near the Promised Land in '91, but were run over in the NFC title game by the Redskins. I remember it well. We destroyed Dallas in the playoffs that year, 38-6. It might just well be my favorite game in Lions history. I loved the look on Jimmy Johnson's face. Of course, he went on to bigger and better things...

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    I was at that game!

    I can STILL remember the "Welcome to the jungle baby...you're gonna DIIIIIIIIIE!" as they took Aikman off of the field!

    THAT was the pinnacle of a superior defense and an offense that gelled. Fontes wasn't the dope everyone made him out to be as nobody has come close since he left.

    Now, the QBs...har-dee-har-har!!! What a collection of loose bolts! Even their current "QB"!

    J-O-K-E!!!

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    Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
    ????

    WHAT!

    The Ford's are a collection of dolts that couldn't be trusted with the "keys" to the automotive empire so they went out and bought a toy for them to get them out of their hair!

    They don't care about wins and losses. They only care about attendance and concession revenue!

    As far as loyalty...I could go on and on and on about how they've shafted everyone they could from players to coaches! They don't know the meaning of the word. Everyone is viewed as a gardner to them. "You're paid help...don't tell me what to do and don't talk to me!".

    If they cared about their fans then they would've won something, but they don't and it clearly shows. Their draft picks are the same tried and true bullshit smoke and mirrors that Wayne Fontes was doing way back when. CB, LB, QB, RB...try picking up an entire offensive line you fucking idiots!!!

    The Lions will NEVER go anywhere near the Promised Land with the likes of the Ford family at the helm...just remember you heard it here.

    Been watching the Lions since '74.

    I've probably heard it before.

    But I'll try to remember.

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    Preseason tickets go on sale today

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    July 10, 2005

    Individual game tickets for the Lions' preseason games at Ford Field go on sale at 10 a.m. today, the team said. Approximately 3,000 tickets for each of the two games -- vs. Cleveland at 1 p.m. Aug. 20 and vs. St. Louis at 8 p.m. Aug. 29 -- will be available at the Ford Field ticket office and at TicketMaster outlets. Tickets can also be purchased by phone at 248-645-6666 via TicketMaster or on the Internet at Detroitlions.com/tickets or ticketmaster.com.


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    bary sanders was smart, leaving the game when he did
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    Lions sign draftees

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    July 16, 2005

    The Lions signed two sixth-round draft choices -- defensive end Bill Swancutt and linebacker Johnathan Goddard -- to three-year deals. Swancutt (6-feet-4, 265 pounds) was selected 184th overall out of Oregon State, where he started 38 consecutive games and recorded 181 tackles (140 solo), 37 sacks and 59.5 tackles for losses. Goddard (6-0, 242) was selected 206th overall out of Marshall. He started 36 games and made 65.5 stops for losses (276 yards) for the Thundering Herd.


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    Originally posted by VonHalen
    bary sanders was smart, leaving the game when he did
    Yep, and he just did a commercial with Elway, Allen, and another guy.

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    Lions | ESPN's Berman to Keynote Award Dinner
    Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:13:47 -0700

    DetroitLions.com reports the 12th annual Detroit Lions Courage House Dinner will feature ESPN sportscaster Chris Berman as its special keynote speaker. The event will be held at Ford Field November 1, 2005. In addition to the presentation of the Detroit Lions Courage Award to a current Lions' player, a special award also will be presented to Roger Penske, chairman of Penske Corporation and the Super Bowl XL Host Committee. Penske will receive the Courage House Community Award for his years of service to both sports and the community.

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    Chris Berman? Ugh!

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    Reality show stars Lions rookie

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    This has to be a general manager's worst nightmare: A would-be NFL player shows up at the Senior Bowl with NINE agents in tow.

    Who's your agent?

    We got a sneak peak at "Super Agent," the reality show that debuts Friday night on Spike TV, and it was pretty much all talk.
    But talking is pretty much all agents do, isn't it, so what kinds of competitions can the show have?

    "There were a few mud-wrestling episodes," said Lions rookie Shaun Cody, the star of the show. "Just kidding."

    Too bad. OK, then how about they have the would-be agents demonstrate their:

    • Endurance: Who can spend the most time on a cell phone and still act like they're talking about something important?

    • Speed: Who's fastest at demanding to renegotiate after agreeing to a contract?

    • Agility: Who can negotiate a buyout for his client and still claim he was fired?

    But it must not have bothered the Lions; they drafted Southern Cal defensive tackle Shaun Cody in the second round, anyway.
    Actually, the nine were just Cody's would-be agents. Only one of them -- the winner of "Super Agent," the Spike TV reality show that debuts at 10 p.m. Friday -- would end up representing him.

    Each week, the contestants compete to impress Cody with their agenting skills, and each week he boots one of them off the show until a winner was picked in time for the draft.

    It's sort of like "The Apprentice" meets "Jerry Maguire." Or, "The Bachelor" meets "Arli$$."

    Of course picking a potential wife on a reality show is one thing, but an agent? Is that prudent?

    "He's negotiating my contract as we speak," Cody said Tuesday, adding he expects to be in camp on time, and he's thrilled to be a Lion.

    Cody said producers recruited him because he was projected to be a high pick and also West Coast-based.

    He said doing the show -- hosted by Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez -- was fun but hectic as he was preparing for the NFL combine and interviewing with teams.

    "Plus doing a TV show on the side was pretty tough," Cody said. "Some nights it ran pretty long, 2 or 3 in the morning. That's when I was like, 'Oh, why'd I do this show?' "

    In Friday's episode, Cody first meets all nine agents in one room. (It kind of put us in the mind of "Fear Factor," when a contestant is covered with cockroaches.)

    Then the agents were split into groups of three to come up with three proposals of why they should represent Cody, though team-building seemed a bit lost on them.

    "The other guys are a joke," Tim McIlwain of the Veritas Group said of his teammates.

    "You don't make a presentation to a guy that you want to sign with two people you want to kill."

    In Episode 2, the agents spend time with two of Cody's relatives, one of whom says, "They all suck. They were horrible."

    Hey, reality TV isn't pretty.

    •To be fair to NFL agents, the Associated Press reports one of the most powerful, Drew Rosenhaus, helped save a boy pulled unconscious from a Disney World pool by performing CPR on him. "I dropped my phone, which is pretty rare," said Rosenhaus, a lifeguard in his youth. "It was nice to be a good guy for once."

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    Lions: Wilson signs on for three years

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    The Lions signed rookie cornerback Stanley Wilson to a three-year contract on Friday. The deal is worth roughly $1.5 million and includes a signing bonus of approximately $575,000, according to the Detroit News. As a three-year starter at Stanford, Wilson logged five interceptions.

    Views

    Wilson is the son of the former Bengals running back of the same name. The elder Wilson is spending his days in a correctional facility following a long history of problems with substance abuse. The younger Wilson has a good relationship with his father and has received plenty of media attention for his feel-good story.

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    Another losing season isn't an option for Lions

    The personnel is better and expectations are greater, so the pressure will be more intense.

    By Mike O'Hara / The Detroit News


    ALLEN PARK -- Inching upward in the standings with baby steps has been an excruciating test of patience for the Lions. It has been a long march inside the boundaries of mediocrity, fueled by hope but blunted by the reality of results.

    The Lions have had a string of losing records and losing streaks since their last playoff appearance, in 1999, and their last winning record, in 2000.

    It ought to be different in 2005. It has to be. A fifth straight losing season would be unacceptable.

    At this stage of their development, the Lions cannot consider anything less than a winning record and making the playoffs a successful season. They have taken too many baby steps in the last four years -- from a 2-14 record in 2001 to 3-13, 5-11 and 6-10.

    It is time to take a big jump. The Lions have assembled enough good players to contend for the NFC North title, but they must prove their value on the field. From the moment they begin their first training-camp practice Friday morning, they will feel pressure on a number of fronts.

    Steve Mariucci is aware of higher expectations and increased pressure to win in his third season as coach. The Lions ought to thrive on it, he said.

    "That's why we do this," Mariucci said recently.

    "You've got to love it. That is what you strive for.

    "You strive for high expectations. Everything you do is to build a team that is capable of winning games and expected to win games and feels like they could or should.

    "That's why we practice, train, draft and acquire players. We are getting to a point where we are assembling a good group of guys."

    No player will be under the spotlight more than quarterback Joey Harrington.

    He has started 44 games in three seasons since the Lions drafted him in the first round in 2002. He also has taken his lumps, from media and fans, and Mariucci has not been vocal very often in supporting him. For the first time, there is real pressure from within.

    The Lions signed Jeff Garcia -- a three-time Pro Bowl player who was with Mariucci in San Francisco -- to be the backup quarterback. Garcia's presence has prompted speculation that Mariucci will not be reluctant to replace Harrington if he has a slump.

    Garcia certainly offers a better alternative than Mike McMahon, who has signed with Philadelphia. McMahon was the backup the last three years.

    Harrington showed improvement in 2004, with 19 touchdown passes against 12 interceptions. His receivers dropped more than 50 passes, which hurt his statistics and short-circuited the offense.

    Quarterback isn't the only position on the Lions' roster that will be under scrutiny. Other areas to watch include the following:

    • Receivers: A young, talented core, largely untested in the pros.

    Roy Williams caught 54 passes and scored eight touchdowns as a rookie in 2004, despite playing most of the season on an injured left ankle. A twice-broken right collarbone cost Charles Rogers 15 games in 2004 and 11 in '03.

    The Lions took Mike Williams of Southern California in the first round. He's a big, powerful athlete with great hands, but he did not play a game in 2004 because of an NCAA suspension related to challenging the NFL's underclass draft. A lot is being asked, and expected, of players with so little pro experience.

    The best hands on the team might belong to Kevin Johnson, a free agent signed in April.

    Although some see the influx of talent -- including tight end Marcus Pollard -- as putting more pressure on Harrington, he views it as an asset. And he should.

    • Offensive line: Rick DeMulling, a starter in Indianapolis, is the new left guard. Right tackle is the unproven spot. Kelly Butler, who did not appear in a game as a rookie in '04, is the top candidate to start.

    • Running back: It should be no problem for Kevin Jones to improve on his rookie performance of 1,133 yards. He started slowly, in part because of an ankle injury. There is strong depth at tailback and fullback, with Artose Pinner, Shawn Bryson, Cory Schlesinger and Jamel White.

    • Linebackers: Boss Bailey's return from a knee injury that caused him to miss all of last season adds depth but creates potential for position changes.

    Bailey was the Lions' best linebacker as the strong-side starter. Rookie Teddy Lehman took Bailey's spot last year. Lehman could be headed to the middle, to compete with Earl Holmes, or the weak side, where James Davis started.

    • Defensive line: Second-round pick Shaun Cody could help an established unit as an inside pass-rusher. The condition of starting tackle Dan Wilkinson is a question. He is going into his 12th season. After his first trip to the Pro Bowl last season, Shaun Rogers is finally playing to the potential the Lions had envisioned.

    • Secondary: Only one starter from last year is absolutely solid -- right cornerback Dré Bly, who has made the Pro Bowl in both seasons as a Lion. Kenoy Kennedy is the new strong safety, and Terrence Holt will get first shot at free safety.

    Fernando Bryant struggled at left cornerback because of injuries last year. R.W. McQuarters, a free agent from Chicago with experience at cornerback and safety, will push for a job. The Lions gave up 29 touchdown passes in 2004. Only five teams allowed more.

    • Offensive coordinator Ted Tollner: He is an important addition to Mariucci's staff. His background indicates a greater propensity than Mariucci to throw the ball downfield.

    The Lions won't scrap the West Coast offense. It remains their basic design. But the limits will be expanded, and it will be interesting to see how quickly it develops.

    Super Bowl XL will be played at Ford Field on Feb. 5. With all its glamour and hype, the Super Bowl is the biggest jewel in North American sports and entertainment.

    It is a magnet for attention, and the Lions cannot be the NFL's castoffs this season with the championship game in their town.

    It adds another bit of pressure on the Lions


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    ^^^LOL!!!^^^

    Every year its the same canned response. "Clean slate", "We have to do it", "It's our year", "We've got the missing piece".

    Harrington blows and is yet another Lions bust at the QB position. The coaching du jour is pathetic and its apparent that they're taking marching orders from the front office.

    It's been the same way forever with Detroit. Some people learn and move on and some want to hold out for perpetual hope! At least there's Hockey in Detroit this year!

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    What has Harrington had by way of pplayers around him since he's got to Detroit?

    What kind of receivers, running game, or offensive line?

    He hasn't had any kind of depth or quality until this year.

    Might want to gets some facts straight before just making ignorant assumptions based on opinion.

    Could he suck this year? Sure he could. But he hasn't had what a QB needs to even come close before.

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    It's got nothing to do with who's around him.

    He sucks. PERIOD! Another top pick wasted while the rest of the league moves on.

    Nice try.

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    Nice how you back all that up with some facts.

    Don't waste my time if you don't have a clue, of course it has everything to do with it.

    No receivers, no running game or line and Marty Moerninwheg?

    Look at the roster from the time he got here, and the coaching staff.

    Gimme a break.

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    David Carr was taken #1, 2 spots before Harrington.

    Who's stats are better?

    Have the Texans moved on?

    Look at Harrington's numbers in each of his first 3 seasons, improved every year and 19 TD with 12 INT last season, and a final 3 game stretch where he had what, 2 300 yard games?

    Drew Brees sucked until year 4 also, then he went to the Pro Bowl.

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    Besides, the thread is for Lion fans.

    You don't like them, stay out of the thread.

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    Lions | Kaleita Looks to Land a Roster Spot
    Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:22:42 -0700

    Mark Urban, of the Record-Eagle, reports Detroit Lions rookie OL Tom Kaleita is looking to land a roster spot with the Lions. He'll be reporting to training camp Thursday, July 27, to join his teammates. He comes into the Lions' training camp with a go-for-broke attitude in an attempt to make the 53-man roster. The undrafted rookie free agent thinks he's with the right team for his quest. None of Detroit's six draft picks from the NFL draft were offensive linemen. Two rookie linemen have already been cut from the squad. "I have a good shot - I think a better shot than I would have anywhere else," Kaleita said. "It's a matter of performance and how bad I want it." The Lions are expected to open training camp with 90 players, so Kaleita knows the challenge he faces. "The biggest thing is the longer I'm there, the better opportunity I have to make it in the NFL," he said, "even if I do get cut with the Lions. Physically, Kaleita said he's ready for training camp to start. "I can't wait to put on the pads," he said. "That'll be the first test."


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    Law continues rehab, still seeking new team
    Len Pasquarelli

    In what could be a significant step toward his planned return to the
    NFL, free agent cornerback Ty Law will work out on Monday for Detroit Lions management officials and coaches, his second visit with the team this offseason.

    The four-time Pro Bowl performer, released by the New England Patriots in February, has been rehabilitating his surgically-repaired left foot in Miami. The injury limited the 10-year veteran to just seven appearances in 2004 and he finished the season on the injured reserve list.

    The session in Detroit will be at least the second recent workout for Law, who had a June 22 workout in Jacksonville for Jaguars officials.

    It is not known how extensive the audition will be. But if the Lions are serious about the possibility of pursuing Law, they likely will want to see him make hard cuts as they try to determine exactly where he stands in his recovery. Law has said in recent weeks that he is close to being 100 percent recovered from the injury.

    Last week, Lisa Kearns of the Miami-based SportFit Rehab and Training, the physical therapist and exercise physiologist who has been working with Law for months now, told ESPN.com that she felt the star cornerback was very close to being able to audition for any interested suitors. Kearns said she was confident Law would play in the NFL in 2005 and would perform at a high level.

    "He's just about there [in his recovery]," said Kearns. "He's able to make hard cuts now and we've just got to turn that up some. But I think he looks just great."

    That sentiment was echoed by another Kearns client, former Cleveland quarterback Tim Couch, who recently threw to Law during one of his own rehabilitation sessions.

    "I don't want to place a percentage on where I feel like he is," said Couch. "That wouldn't be fair to him. But I know that he looked good and he moved well. [It's] just my opinion, but I think he'll be a big-time player again."

    About a half-dozen franchises, with varying degrees of interest and potential commitment financially, have continued to monitor Law's rehabilitation. Agent Carl Poston told The Boston Globe that he has received contract proposals from some clubs, and characterized the offers as varying between "hamburger and filet mignon." Law has reiterated several times during his recovery that he will not sign a minimum salary contract.

    The Lions have not been mentioned lately as one of the teams still chasing Law. But if the veteran cornerback performs well in his workout, Detroit could become serious about him. The Lions have one Pro Bowl-caliber cornerback in Dre Bly and their other starter, Fernando Bryant is viewed as a solid defender, but one coming off a subpar season that was affected by injuries.

    Detroit signed veteran free agent cornerback R.W. McQuarters two months ago, after he was released by the Chicago Bears, and invested a third-round draft choice on former Stanford corner Stanley Wilson.

    Law, 31, has 36 career interceptions and 122 passes defensed in 141 games, all with New England, which selected the former University of Michigan star in the first round of the 1995 draft.

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    He is looking for more money than the Lions can afford ... I don't know how they would pull it off ... maybe they can.

    He needs to be 100% health wise for sure.

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    Another interesting LIONS season..........


    I'll say 9-7, maybe 8-8.
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    Lions plan to meet with Law today

    BY CURT SYLVESTER, FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER
    July 25, 2005

    With training camp only three days away, the Lions apparently are interested in making a pitch for four-time Pro Bowl cornerback Ty Law.

    Lions vice president Bill Keenist confirmed Sunday evening that Law is scheduled to visit the team's headquarters in Allen Park today for a physical and a workout.


    Law, 31, is recovering from a broken foot and subsequent surgery that cost him most of the 2004 NFL season. He was released by the New England Patriots, with whom he played 10 seasons, for salary cap reasons last spring.

    Lions president Matt Millen met with Law in early May -- shortly after Law had begun running as part of his recovery program -- and maintained the Lions were still interested after they signed cornerback R. W. McQuarters on June 10.

    Law, a former University of Michigan defensive back, reportedly turned down a four-year, $26-million offer from the Patriots a year ago and still has his sights set on a more lucrative deal. The Lions are one of eight teams believed to be interested in Law.

    Lions veterans are scheduled to report for training camp Thursday with the first two-a-day workouts set for Friday.

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    If he's healthy, the Lions would have a good secondary...finally.

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    Lions | Law Completes Workout
    Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:27:29 -0700

    The Associated Press reports free agent CB Ty Law (Patriots) worked out for the Detroit Lions Monday morning, July 25. He also took a physical and met with Lions' head coach Steve Mariucci and president Matt Millen, team spokesman Bill Keenist said. "He looks great," one of Law's agents, Kevin Poston, said while watching Law work out for the Lions.

    Lions | Orlovsky Signing Official
    Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:05:00 -0700

    Updating previous reports, DetroitLions.com reports the Detroit Lions have officially signed rookie QB Dan Orlovsky. He was the team's fifth-round draft pick in the April NFL draft.


    Lions | Wilson Signing Official
    Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:59:06 -0700

    Updating previous reports, DetroitLions.com reports the Detroit Lions have officially signed rookie CB Stanley Wilson. He was the team's third-round draft pick in the April NFL draft.



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    Detroit Lions

    Key veteran additions:
    OLG Rick DeMulling; QB Jeff Garcia; WR Kevin Johnson; SS Kenoy Kennedy; OL Kyle Kosier; DB R.W. McQuarters; TE Marcus Pollard.

    Key veteran departures: TE Stephen Alexander; WR Az-Zahir Hakim; S Brock Marion; ORT Stockar McDougle; QB Mike McMahon; WR Reggie Swinton; S Brian Walker.

    Most significant change: Signing the veteran Garcia was a not-so-subtle hint to starting QB Joey Harrington that his margin for error has been greatly reduced. Garcia, a three-time Pro Bowler in a similar system with San Francisco, will threaten if Harrington stumbles out of the gate.

    Reasons for optimism: On paper, the Lions have quite an impressive array of talent on both sides of the ball. RB Kevin Jones led the NFL in rushing over the final eight games of his rookie season and is a great asset, as is the trio of first-round picks at wideout and TE Pollard, to Harrington's development. The defense, solid if unspectacular with DT Shaun Rogers as its anchor, gets SLB Boss Bailey back from injury and added Kennedy and McQuarters.

    Causes for concern: The Lions lack a dangerous pass-rush threat to pressure opposing quarterbacks such as Brett Favre and Daunte Culpepper. The secondary could have three new starters, including both safeties, Terrence Holt and Kennedy. Other than Bailey, the Lions don't know what the LB corps will look like in Week 1. MLB Earl Holmes and WLB James Davis must win their jobs in training camp with second-year LBs Teddy Lehman and Alex Lewis fighting for more time.

    Battle to watch: Competition should be fierce at defensive end opposite unheralded James Hall. Cory Redding took the majority of the snaps at the end in 2004, but rookie Bill Swancutt and veteran Kalimba Edwards are better athletes with more natural pass-rush skills. Rookie second-round pick Shaun Cody might slide to end at times, but the Lions prefer to use the agile big man in tandem with Rogers.

    Don't be surprised if … Harrington establishes himself as the clear-cut starter early in camp. He's expected to see extended action in preseason contests, and the Lions want to see Harrington's "A" game starting with the exhibition opener at the Jets on Aug. 12.


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    "the Lions want to see Harrington's "A" game"

    They've been paying for it and all they get is a C+ at best!

    Har-dee-har-Harrington!

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    Kircus ordered to pay fines for driving drunk
    Detroit Free Press
    July 23, 2005

    Lions wide receiver David Kircus was ordered to pay $850 in fines and court costs for driving drunk. Hudsonville District Judge Kenneth D. Post also sentenced Kircus to one day of jail, with credit for one day served at the time of his arrest. The former star at Grand Valley State pleaded guilty July 6 to a misdemeanor count of operating under the influence of alcohol.

    Former Lions safety Julius Curry has been ordered by a Warren judge to stand trial on accusations of bilking a woman out of $50,000 in a real estate transaction. Curry, 26, who was with the Green Bay Packers last season, has pleaded innocent to obtaining money under false pretenses over $20,000. If convicted, he faces up to 10 years in prison.

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    If you don't like the Lions, stay out of the thread.

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    It looks like Detroit is serious about signing Law.

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    STATE OF THE LIONS: Mariucci sees winning signs

    July 29, 2005


    BY NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA
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    Steve Mariucci paused, tapped on the table and considered the questions. What is he really eager to see? What is he really eager to have answered?


    "I guess I'm just eager to see how fast this team can come," he said Thursday before the first team meeting of training camp. "I think it's going to be a lot of fun to watch, to see how fast this team can play some real good football."


    For Lions fans, things have moved excruciatingly slowly since Matt Millen took over as team president in 2001. The Lions went 2-14 in 2001 and 3-13 in '02 with coach Marty Mornhinweg, then 5-11 in '03 and 6-10 in '04.


    But it's 2005 now, and Mariucci said he wouldn't talk to his players about anything but "this team and this team only."


    The Lions take the field for the first time this morning with more talent and depth than they've had in years. They have the potential to make a jump.


    With the Super Bowl at Ford Field this season, it might be fun to dream about making it that far for the first time, about becoming the first team to have home-field advantage. Heck, just two years ago, after 1-15 and 7-9 seasons, Carolina went 11-5 and made the Super Bowl.


    Although this is the time of year for wild optimism, Mariucci wouldn't bite on that. He pointed out how the Detroit newspapers had been running countdowns to the Super Bowl and said his players didn't need to be reminded about it.


    "They know," he said. "They know the days left to training camp's a big zero. That's what they're focused on."


    Mariucci wouldn't set any specific bar. But making the playoffs for the first time since 1999 is a realistic goal.


    "You know I don't make any predictions, I don't give you any numbers," he said. "But ... the foundation has really been put into place. We've been working for several years to put a lot of pieces of this puzzle together, and boy, we're right ... we're getting there, and it's going to be fun."


    To be sure, the Lions have issues.


    Every move quarterback Joey Harrington makes will be scrutinized, and veteran backup Jeff Garcia, who had success with Mariucci in San Francisco, provides an option.


    Every time receiver Charles Rogers and linebacker Boss Bailey so much as brush anything, people will wince, at least for a while. Rogers missed most of the last two seasons with a broken collarbone; Bailey missed last season with an injured knee. Mariucci said Rogers would not wear a red jersey protecting him from contact, but Bailey would start camp limited to one session a day.


    The Lions have uncertainty at offensive right tackle. Mariucci said 2004 sixth-round draft pick Kelly Butler would be given every opportunity to win the job over free-agent signee Kyle Kosier, who started 29 games for San Francisco in the past three seasons.


    But a lot of the Lions' problems are relatively pleasant. At wide receiver, defensive line, linebacker and in the secondary, they have more good players than spots available.


    And in Mariucci's words, the players have "that look in their eye." He lauded their work ethic. He even praised right guard Damien Woody, who came into camp overweight last year. Mariucci said Woody was in much better shape now.


    "During the off-season program, when I know a lot of their friends were out golfing down South or wherever, they were here going like crazy, and it's for a reason," Mariucci said. "They want to be the team that makes a lot of noise here for Detroit, and I like that and I really feel that."

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