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    The Major League Baseball ShakeUp

    Alright...1 at a time...over the last few days...

    Today...

    the DBacks throw a 4 year deal to Russ Ortiz...

    Just can't figure it out...

    he wins...but I still can't figure out how...
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    DBacks also sign Troy Glaus...kind of an under the radar move...

    if the DBacks keep RJ...they'll contend again...

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    Re: The Major League Baseball ShakeUp

    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    the DBacks throw a 4 year deal to Russ Ortiz...

    Just can't figure it out...

    he wins...but I still can't figure out how...
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    Mezro...must be the flax seed...
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    Jeff Kent signs a 2 year deal with the Dodgers...

    an interesting move...for a guy past his prime...

    we'll see if the West Coast brings him back...

    didn't Kent play for the Dodgers briefly before?

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    The Cubs are desperately trying to dump Sosa...so they can make a run at Carlos Beltran...

    Great move if they can make it...

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    if the d.backs are gonna keep signing good players, they might as well keep r.johnson, cuase they might have a shot
    Originally posted by RIKK

    Now, tj was indeed a major cunt. Indeed, he probably still is.

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    and the bosox need to sign pedro...

    or they will be in trouble... it looks like they are gonna land
    david wells...and if they can get pavono, they will be in good shape for another ring

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    Well...the thing is TJ...that they may not be able to afford all of these signings and keep RJ...

    I think they are banking on signing some good players...

    and using RJ to bulk up at more than one position...

    we'll see...

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    I just don't see them landing all of those guys though...

    Varitek will play a part as well...for the Sox that is...

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    I just don't see them landing all of those guys though...

    Varitek will play a part as well...for the Sox that is...
    well they need 2 of the 3....and yes they need to sign tek

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    If they sign Varitek...no way Pavano comes...not enough money...

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    I think they'll move RJ to the Yanks now, most likely via a 3-way deal....

    That's a lot of clams to pay...
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    I don't think they're gonna sign Pedro...

    I have a feeling that they think he's done after two years or so...
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    Especially since that fucker wants 14 million a year...

    fuck that...

    As far as RJ in a three way deal? I just don't see that...although a straight up I could see...

    I don't know...

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    Hidalgo signed with the Rangers for 5 million a year...and now they focus on fucking Delgado...

    christ...what a lineup if that happens...

    Blalock, Soriano, Young, Delgado and Hidalgo...holy hell...and I know I'm forgetting someone...

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    If the Cubs can dump Sosa and get Beltran, it might be their best move since getting Ryne Sandberg back in 1982.

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    Hidalgo signed with the Rangers for 5 million a year...and now they focus on fucking Delgado...

    christ...what a lineup if that happens...

    Blalock, Soriano, Young, Delgado and Hidalgo...holy hell...and I know I'm forgetting someone...
    Texieira

    they still need an ace

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    Hidalgo signed with the Rangers for 5 million a year...and now they focus on fucking Delgado...

    christ...what a lineup if that happens...

    Blalock, Soriano, Young, Delgado and Hidalgo...holy hell...and I know I'm forgetting someone...
    Texeira. He's still with them, isn't he? If so, there's one...

    Michael Young, too. He's no bum...

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    The Mets are supposedly going after Pedro pretty hard. He might be better off in the NL where you can yank him for a PH in the 7th since he's not so durable.

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    Now theres talk that David Wells is close to a deal with Boston.......

    Is the sky gonna fall in now??

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    As far as RJ in a three way deal? I just don't see that...although a straight up I could see...

    I don't know...
    Straight up for who ?? And you know they don't have shit for prospects in the minor league system....

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    Hidalgo signed with the Rangers for 5 million a year...and now they focus on fucking Delgado...

    christ...what a lineup if that happens...

    Blalock, Soriano, Young, Delgado and Hidalgo...holy hell...and I know I'm forgetting someone...
    Yeah gonna be lots o'strikeouts in that lineup too. I think Richard Hidalgo is a Dave Kingman type player. He had that one really good year in Houston, and since then it's .250 w/30-35 HR's. Not a player to get excited about in my opinion.

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    Well I looked at his career stats, he's pretty up and down. He had a couple of mostly-full years of batting over .300. He had that one phenomenal year of 2000 which he hasn't really approximated since then. So you really don't know what you're gonna get. You could very well get a guy who's not going to break .250 and strikeout over 125 times.

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    Originally posted by Igosplut
    I don't think they're gonna sign Pedro...

    I have a feeling that they think he's done after two years or so...
    i don't think pedro is going anywhere but the red sox

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    Well...first of all Va...I don't think RJ is really going to go anywhere...

    he'll no trade it and stay...with the moves they made...

    As far as a three way deal...it's kind of laughable...because generally...if Billy Beane isn't involved...it doesn't happen...

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    They have shit for prospects in the upper minors...

    but if they include Vazquez...and maybe 2 fantastic A players...

    AND...

    if the DBacks really want to deal RJ...which I doubt...

    the deal will get done...

    until then...I just don't see it...

    a three way...four way...ten way...or two way...

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    Well...first of all Va...I don't think RJ is really going to go anywhere...

    he'll no trade it and stay...with the moves they made...

    As far as a three way deal...it's kind of laughable...because generally...if Billy Beane isn't involved...it doesn't happen...
    I'm starting to think he'll stay now as well...

    RJ has said as recent as a couple of days ago that he'll only waive the no-trade clause to go to the Chokers, er, Yankees.... (had to throw that one in there)...

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    Originally posted by Igosplut
    Now theres talk that David Wells is close to a deal with Boston.......

    Is the sky gonna fall in now??
    Well they signed him.....

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    ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) -- The Boston Red Sox have reached agreement with 41-year-old David Wells, bringing the boisterous lefty to their already wild clubhouse to help defend their World Series title.

    Wells agreed Saturday to an $8 million, two-year contract with Boston that could be worth up to $18 million over two years, a Red Sox official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. The deal is pending a physical.

    Wells gets a $3 million signing bonus and a salary of $2.5 million a year. In addition, he would earn $200,000 per start from 11-20 and $300,000 per start from 21-30.

    Red Sox manager Terry Francona declined comment on Wells, but he said he wasn't worried about having too many characters on the team.

    ``Last year we had a lot of strong personalities but they didn't really go their own (way),'' Francona said Saturday. ``They just came together. I guess that's what you want.''

    Wells had said that he wanted to return to his hometown Padres, but with a guaranteed contract instead of one loaded with incentives like the deal he signed as a free agent last winter. He earned $1.25 million in base pay and another $4.75 million in incentives by making 31 starts; he could have made $1 million more if he hadn't missed three weeks after a fluke household injury.

    Wells was 12-8 with a 3.73 ERA last season.

    ``Despite his love for the Yankees, he walked away from us last year,'' New York general manager Brian Cashman said. ``The bottom line is it's a business. He had to do what's best for him and his family.''

    Wells could replace Pedro Martinez or join him in a rotation behind ace Curt Schilling. The Red Sox have offered Martinez a two-year deal with options that could make it worth more than $38.5 million over three years.

    Boston also has pursued free agent Carl Pavano, who was 18-8 with a 3.00 ERA for Florida last season. He is deciding among the Red Sox, Yankees, Mariners, Orioles, Angels and Tigers.

    ``He can see himself in every uniform. I said, 'Carl, you can only pitch for one team,''' his agent, Scott Shapiro said. ``When he's ready, he'll let me know.''

    The Red Sox are not expected to re-sign Derek Lowe, a former 20-game winner who struggled last year before pitching in the clinching games of all three playoff rounds as Boston won the World Series for the first time since 1918.

    To end the drought, the Red Sox turned the clubhouse over to free spirits like Johnny Damon, David Ortiz and Kevin Millar -- an unshaven and unkempt bunch that foiled the strait-laced Yankees and won an unprecedented eight consecutive games after spotting New York a three-game lead in the AL championship series.

    Asked Friday if he was concerned that Wells' carousing might upset the chemistry in the Boston clubhouse, general manager Theo Epstein said sarcastically, ``No, we don't have any guys like that.''

    Wells missed three starts in late May and early June after tripping over a bar stool at home, knocking a bottle of wine onto the floor and landing on it and a glass he was holding. He severed a tendon in his right wrist, requiring surgery, and cut his left palm.

    Wells had back surgery before signing with the Padres last year. He has also been involved in several off-field scrapes that would seem to make him a natural fit for Boston's frat house atmosphere.

    In January 1997, while in San Diego for his mother's funeral, Wells got into a street fight outside a bar and broke his pitching hand. In 2002, he was punched in the face by a man during an early morning altercation in a New York diner and lost two teeth.

    In '03, Wells wrote a book titled: ``Perfect I'm Not! Boomer on Beer, Brawls, Backaches and Baseball.'' Besides detailing how he grew up in the middle of a Hells Angels gang in a gritty San Diego neighborhood, he contended that he was ``half drunk'' when he pitched a perfect game in 1998 for the Yankees after partying until just a few hours before the game.


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    Hmmmm...Wells...not a horrible pick up...an under the radar guy this year...

    interesting...I can't believe he's pitching for fucking Boston after saying he wanted to blow up Fenway...

    lmfao...

    he better pitch well...

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    I like Wells, good guy....

    Beer gut, and I've heard a big DLR/VH fan.....

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    Hmmmm...Wells...not a horrible pick up...an under the radar guy this year...

    interesting...I can't believe he's pitching for fucking Boston after saying he wanted to blow up Fenway...

    lmfao...

    he better pitch well...
    I would say better than Lowe, you think??

    hard to believe that he's going to Boston after all that shit talk....

    If he doesn't pitch well the fans will eat him for lunch.... then again...whats new...

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    I thought I heard Wells was a Hagar fan. In fact he wore a hat with the ringed VH logo in 1998.

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    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
    I like Wells, good guy....

    Beer gut, and I've heard a big DLR/VH fan.....
    Met him, hes a hagarite to the bone..speaks to eddie on occasion.
    remember? 2000 my thread when i was in Tampa?
    good guy though, no bad side on the personality dept. chatted
    for a good 1/2 hr on VH situation then. wifes pretty hot too.

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    Yanks got Pavano..

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    ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) -- Carl Pavano decided Saturday he wanted to pitch for the Yankees, and his agent and New York closed in on a four-year contract worth about $39 million.

    Pavano called his agent, Scott Shapiro, on Saturday morning and informed him of his decision.

    "Number one, he wants to win," Shapiro said.

    Anaheim, Baltimore, Boston, Detroit and Seattle also sought the right-hander, 18-8 with a 3.00 ERA for Florida last season.

    Shapiro said his next step was to meet with Yankees general manager Brian Cashman to finalize an agreement. Pavano and Shapiro met with the Yankees in New York last weekend, and Shapiro was confident a contract would be agreed to.

    "We have to really hunker down and have some serious negotiations to hammer out the deal," Shapiro said.

    The Yankees expect the agreement will be worth about $39 million, a baseball official said on condition of anonymity, and the contract could contain an option for a fifth season.

    New York also has a preliminary agreement with right-hander Jaret Wright on three-year, $21 million contract, but there may be a hitch in the deal. New York is still evaluating his physical exam, the baseball official said, and hasn't determined whether he passed it or failed it.

    Pavano had been wooed by the World Series champion Red Sox, with Curt Schilling inviting him to his home last month. A native of New Britain, Conn., he began his professional career in the Boston organization, and was traded to Montreal in the 1997 deal that brought Pedro Martinez to the Red Sox.

    "The Red Sox are an incredible organization. Obviously he's got a soft spot in his heart for them," Shapiro said. "It's been a real difficult decision for him. ... It's about Carl being happy where he's living and where he's playing."

    Earlier in the day, former Yankee David Wells made a surprising decision to pitch for Boston, reaching a preliminary agreement on a two-year, $8 million contract with the Red Sox that could be worth up to $18 million.

    In the AL Championship Series, New York became the first major league baseball team ever to waste a 3-0 postseason series lead, losing to Boston as its pitching collapsed. The Yankees have made reshaping their rotation a priority, and Pavano would join holdovers Mike Mussina, Javier Vazquez, Kevin Brown and possibly Wright.

    New York also has been talking with left-hander Eric Milton, who wants a three-year, $24 million deal, and could bring back Orlando Hernandez.

    Pavano, who turns 29 next month, has been probably the most sought-after of the top-level free-agent pitchers. In addition to New York and Boston, he also visited Detroit and Seattle.

    "It was a long process, but Carl is comfortable because he turned over every rock, he gathered all the information possible to make a decision," Shapiro said.
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    Another good signing for those fuckers....

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    I have no problem with Pavano...I just don't see him as a number 1...

    So here's their rotation...

    Pavano, Mussina, Vazquez, Wright and...who am I forgetting...Duque? Brown?....

    So...what do we have...Pavano...a #2...Mussina...no longer a #1...Vazquez a #2 or #3 and Wright a #3...

    Duque is injured every other week...and so is Brown...

    They still need a #1...or they won't be any better than they were last year...

    We'll see...

    a good pickup yes...but not the answer...

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    HERE'S what they need: a LEFTY...

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    They need more than a lefty...they need a good lefty...

    and a #1...having a lefty is a good thing...

    but if you add a quality #1 starter to that staff...that they have now...

    you don't need a lefty...

    but it wouldn't help with matchups...that's true...

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    I personally hope they get a CRAPPY lefty.

    They need the lefty to counteract the short porch in RF. Period...

    (Remember a guy named Pettitte?)

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    Well...I'm sure there are still thoughts of Randy Johnson...but the fact is...there just aren't a bunch of quality lefties out there...

    I'm sure they were in the Oakland hunt...until they found out it was Hudson...I think they were salivating over Zito...

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