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    Ex-KGB and STASI Chiefs To Work Under Chertoff

    Foreign Press Foundation | 16.12.2004 13:06

    http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/12/302870.html

    Why have Soviet secret service 'KGB', General Yevgeni Primakov, as well as Markus Wolfe, the ex-boss of the ''STASI'', the equally feared former East German 'State Security Police' been hired by - and for - the US Gov't.?


    PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTANDING NOR SEEING THIS ''MENE TEKEL'' ARE BRAINWASHED BLIND...

    US: KGB and STASI reinforce Homeland Security. For whom?

    "These appointments have already been made"

    Dec. 16th - 2004 - If somebody would inform you, that the former Ex-head of the inhuman and despicable Soviet secret service 'KGB', General Yevgeni Primakov, as well as Markus Wolfe, the ex-boss of the ''STASI'', the equally feared former East German ''State Security Police'' - (Staats Sicherheitsdienst) - have been hired by the United States Gov't for the lawless and already feared secret service "HOMELAND Security", as experts to reinforce the control in the US of all it's citizens: would that make you sleep badly ? Im sorry to wreck your night's rest, but it seems that it just happened to you, or, better said: to all of us globally.

    Nobody - outside the US mainstream media's reach - would be surprised if the US neocons would appoint a revived Dr. Josef Mengele from Auschwitz as the new Head of Medicare.

    A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO [1997-06-09] WOLFE FROM THE STASI
    WAS REFUSED A VISA TO THE US BECAUSE HE WAS A TERRORIST.*

    Or do you still belong to this completely brainwashed group which - standing in the rain - assures everybody that it's dry and quite sunny still? Up to one's neck in the manure; saying it doesn't smell .... ?

    Saying US concentration camps do not exist and are not prepared?*

    Bad luck: you even might end up there if you keep reading items like this. An American friend of mine, Jim Kirwan, today send me his views on this very underreported matter in an article called: "Tribute" a Submission:

    "The White House today paid tribute to three individuals by awarding each of them, the 'American Medal of Freedom'. This is the nation's highest honor for civilians, who have contributed to the advancement of this country and the world.

    The awards went to retired General Tommy Franks, for his role in fighting the Iraq War; to George Tenet, for his role as the head of CIA Intelligence in the same war; and to Paul Bremer, the civilian administrator of Iraq, for his administration of the aftermath of that invasion.

    All three men failed miserably in their assigned duties, but each was nonetheless awarded a 'Medal of Freedom' for their respective efforts. For his part, Bush was ''re-elected'' to the office he has occupied since 2000.

    Indeed a black day for ''Freedom'' in the United States (and all countries the US warmachine is trying to dominate, using genocidal 'Might' instead of 'Right'. -HR)

    Which brings us to the next group of sterling individuals who will no-doubt be awarded their own Medals of Freedom, in the very near future.

    The first will be the new Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, the man who has remained as close as a shadow to Bush since his governorship in Texas.

    This is the genius who wrote all those legalistic overrides of the Geneva Conventions so that we might have unlimited charge of ''enemy combatants'' worldwide.

    He's also the man who created the contents of that evil pair of Patriot Acts, that serve as bookends for the legalistic crushing of what's left of law and government responsibilities under the new ''Terror Laws''. This guy's a ''must have'' if we are to remain on track for Fascism in America, in 21st Century style.

    The second recipient of the next round of ''Freedom Medals'' ought to be Ex-Admiral Poindexter, for setting up 'Total Information Awareness' (TIA) prior to 911, but he's been officially trashed, so that's impossible. Instead the award could probably go to one of his additions to the offices of HOMELAND Security: That would be the Ex-head of the Soviet KGB, General Yevgeni Primakov:

    http://www.impeach-bush-now.org/Arti...icans/USSA.htm

    The third Medal ought to go to the latest addition to HOMELAND Security.

    That would be the former East German STASI chief, Markus Wolfe*, a master of manipulation and intimidation - just what we now need to run our ''Secret National Spy Service'':

    http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/chan...contentid=1676

    Sounds like business as usual, but wait: this is not what it might appear to be. When we took Nazi scientists after W.W.II, to work on weapons systems, they were severely limited to working on systems that other civilians had control over.

    We knew who they were and what they were, and they were monitored. This time, these vicious and utterly barbaric individuals will be employed specifically for the very skills they brought to their communist states, only now they are being imported to decide who lives and who dies in America. [See below: US Concentration camps?*]

    These men have not changed, they are who they are, and that is exactly why Bush & the Bandits want them to run those aspects of HOMELAND Security, that spy on and attempt to co-opt U.S. Citizens.

    USA is paying ex-barbarians to harass and prosecute Americans.

    If these men were to appear for work, in the uniforms of their former States, the public would be outraged, and rightfully so! But that's exactly what is happening here, only no one seems the least bit disturbed that the Government of the USA is paying ex-barbarians to harass and prosecute Americans under the guise of ''HOMELAND Security requirements.''

    This is not a proposal ''these appointments have already been made'' maybe that's why the Bush government insists on doing everything in SECRET.

    Do you like the idea that the former head of the KGB will be practicing his skills on Americans, and getting a handsome US paycheck for his efforts to control us?

    Do you like the idea that the ex-General in charge of the world's most notorious secret service, in charge of spying on the citizens in Communist East Germany, will also be getting a handsome paycheck from US taxpayers, to practice his obscenities on us?

    Potential disaster

    Most who have heard about this addition to HOMELAND security, believe that 'it sucks!'' Maybe if enough of us actually question the wisdom of these appointments, on the record - then perhaps - something more creative could be done about this potential disaster.

    People here work really hard for every penny today, thanks to Bush & his Bandits; so why should we have to pay the cushy salaries of these particular despicable thugs, who have made careers out of torture and lies, not to mention having held lifelong professional hatreds of our supposed way-of-life.*

    United States ''Homeland Security'' ?
    (For Whom ? - HR)

    Bush created this 180,000 person agency out of 22 separate agencies, and to date, the public has seen nothing but bad jokes come from this huge and out-of-touch beast. But under the guidance of these former slave state torturers, maybe things will move along much more efficiently?

    Maybe there are no longer any real differences between the belief systems at the top of the transnational corporate food chain. Maybe what is being used against the population here is only what so many corporate powers have been reluctant to do for far too long.

    Apparently the real powers must now feel very comfortable, at this present moment, when all pretense can finally be dropped and the USA can finally take its place among the tyrannical empires that have preceded us on that one-way road to owning everything and everyone?

    Think about that day, in the near future when the Bushwhacker will pin the American ''Medal of Freedom'' upon the shapeless chests of these three despicable throwbacks (in the grand tradition he just established today) - and don't forget how many more Americans they will each mutually be responsible for sending to prison, to torture, or to death.*

    This is not just ''politics'' anymore; this is 'Tribute', being paid out in the actions that we take as a nation, against our own people.

    Who profits from these appointments, and who pays? [andend]

    ************************************************** ***********************

    * HR: And this is what I found the White House said earlier about Wolfe: ''he sponsored terrorist attacks against us, why would we give him a visa?"

    Excerpt from the U.S. Department of State Daily Press Briefing #87, 97-06-09*

    QUESTION: Do you have anything on the visa situation of Mr. Wolfe, of the former East Germany?

    MR. BURNS: You know, I think I do have something on that, George, and I'm glad you raised that question. Yes. We're talking about Markus Wolfe, the former head of Stasi, right? The East German police.

    Well, he was refused a visa, as my records show, in 1996. He was deemed to be ineligible for an American visa under Section 212(a)(3)(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

    This section states that aliens who have engaged in terrorist activities are not eligible for visas to travel to the United States. It covers several types of terrorist activities, including preparing and planning terrorist activities, providing material support to those who have committed or plan to commit terrorist acts.

    He was the deputy minister of state security for East Germany. He was the head of the ministry's foreign espionage branch. He actively aided and abetted and fostered international and state-supported terrorism when he was an East German government official.

    As the number 2 person in Stasi and the head of the espionage branch, he was absolutely in the decision-making channel. There's no question about that.

    By his own admission, he participated in determining the ministry's policy and goals and he's, therefore, ineligible.

    We, in the State Department, do not believe it is appropriate to give him a waiver from Section 212(a)(3)(b) because we think it is inadvisable for someone who spent his entire career as an opponent of free German, West Germany, as an opponent of the German people, and someone who is anti-American and trying to bring down our government and sponsor terrorist attacks against us, why would we give him a visa?

    So, he is not coming to the United States. He can write his best-selling books, but he won't be able to enjoy the United States throughout the rest of his life if we have anything to do with it."

    [end quote-BURNS]

    NOW WOLFE BROUGHT THE STASI/GESTAPO TO THE STATES...

    Who dares to call this "Homeland Security" ?

    U.S. Department of State Daily Press Briefing #87, 97-06-09:

    * Burns - Quote - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/4pokl

    * Jim Kirwan - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/3kbaz

    * Your 'pick-up' - ''Global Terror by Secret US Death Squads''
    http://tinyurl.com/6d9sa

    * Possible destiny: US Concentration camps/FEMA:

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html

    * Dr. Josef Mengele - Google Url.: http://tinyurl.com/3knhv

    FOREIGN PRESS FOUNDATION
    http://tinyurl.com/3crhn
    Editor : Henk Ruyssenaars
    http://tinyurl.com/5uvtv
    The Netherlands
    FPF (at) Chello.nl

    The Dutch author has this far worked abroad for 4 decades for international media, as a foreign correspondent, of which 10 years - also during Gulf War I - in the Arab World and the Middle East.

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    We need to fight terrorism by coopting them I suppose.


    But hey, one man's terrorist is another man's secret policeman!
    East German Intelligence supported these guys www.baader-meinhof.com

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    Can't wait to hear the Busheep spin on this. I suppose Anndrew Coulter will spew forth a column calling these two fascist bastards "heroes" just like s/he did Joseph Mccarthy.
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    Originally posted by FORD
    Can't wait to hear the Busheep spin on this. I suppose Anndrew Coulter will spew forth a column calling these two fascist bastards "heroes" just like s/he did Joseph Mccarthy.
    They've reached a new low, that's for sure!

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    These are the guys we are hiring for Homlenad Security! Any Neo Con shitbags care to defend this one?

    Stasi
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
    This article is about Stasi, the secret police of East Germany. See Commission Stasi for other meaning.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Statue of workers and Stasi official in front of the former Stasi archives building, Mitte district, Berlin (The official has been egged a few times)The Ministerium für Staatssicherheit (German for Ministry for State Security), commonly known by the abbreviation Stasi, was the main security (secret police) and intelligence organization of the German Democratic Republic (East Germany). The Stasi was headquartered in the capital, East Berlin, with an extensive complex in Lichtenberg and several smaller complexes throughout the city. The Stasi was widely regarded as one of the most effective intelligence agencies in the world.

    The Stasi was founded on February 8, 1950. Wilhelm Zaisser was its first leader, and Erich Mielke his deputy. In 1955, Mielke became head of the Stasi, and Markus Wolf became head of the Hauptverwaltung Aufklärung (HVA), its foreign intelligence section. The Stasi was modeled on the Soviet NKVD, and was regarded by the KGB as an extremely loyal and effective partner among the intelligence services of the Warsaw Pact countries.

    Many early Stasi officers were former officers of the Nazi SS with East German Communist leaders actively seeking former Gestapo and SD personnel to lead the Stasi in its formative years.


    The Stasi's flagThe Stasi's influence over almost every aspect of life in the German Democratic Republic cannot be overestimated. Until the mid-1980s, a civilian network of informants (Inoffizielle Mitarbeiter [IMs], or unofficial collaborators) grew within the GDR, and in West Germany as well. By the East German collapse in 1989, it is estimated that the Stasi had 91,000 full time employees and 300,000 informants. This means approximately one in fifty East Germans collaborated with the Stasi, possibly the highest penetration of any society by a security apparatus.

    The Stasi monitored politically "incorrect" behavior among all citizens of East Germany, comparable to activity of the former Gestapo. During the 1989 peaceful revolution, the Stasi offices were overrun by enraged citizens, but not before a huge amount of compromising material was destroyed by Stasi officers. The remaining files are available for review to all people who were reported upon, often revealing that friends, colleagues, husbands, wives, and other family members were regularly filing reports with the Stasi.

    After German unification, it was revealed that the Stasi also secretly aided left-wing terrorist groups such as the Red Army Faction. Loss of support from the Stasi was a major factor in the dissolution of these groups.

    Has the terror level alert gone up yet?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi

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    KGB General Yevgeni Primakov??? Primakov was the foreign minister of USSR/PM of Russia. LOL. I didn't bother reading further
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    Originally posted by Mishar_McLeud
    KGB General Yevgeni Primakov??? Primakov was the foreign minister of USSR/PM of Russia. LOL. I didn't bother reading further
    And how often did the KGB leaders get promoted to the top job? Do the names Andropov, Gorbachev, and Putin ring a bell?

    And need I remind you that George Bush Sr was a life long CIA operative, which is the same fucking thing, secret police.

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    Andropov and Putin were heads of KGB/FSB, true. But Primakov was in no way, and it's so little for a chance of coincidence that there was some general with the very same name to make this article sound anything rather than BS.

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    Originally posted by Mishar_McLeud
    Andropov and Putin were heads of KGB/FSB, true. But Primakov was in no way, and it's so little for a chance of coincidence that there was some general with the very same name to make this article sound anything rather than BS.
    They just need to shed some expertise on population control and subtle political intimidation. In the paranoid era of 'Homeland Security,' I could well see these assholes to be brought into the fold as consultants. They did afterall fight Islamic extremists during the Afghan War and in Chechnya and acquired much experience.

    Hell, they probably see this as merely 'thinking outside the box!'

    BTW, the Stasi was probably the much more ruthless of the two. I'd be more worried about Wolfe.
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