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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
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    The Whore of Revelation 17

    by Dave Hunt


    "Virtually all attention these days is focused on the coming Antichrist –but he is only half the story. Many are amazed to discover in Revelation 17 that there is also another mysterious character at the heart of prophecy –a woman who rides the beast."


    The Bible says the whore of Revelation 17 is a city and gives remarkable clues to her identity. The following is one of a series of excerpts from A Woman Rides The Beast, by Dave Hunt. Here Hunt digs behind these clues which point to only one possibility: Rome and the Vatican. In this book, Hunt's thorough research is a must for anyone who would witness effectively to Roman Catholics.



    Who Is The Whore?

    The first thing we are told about the woman is that she is a "whore" (Revelation 17:1), that earthly kings "have committed fornication" with her (verse 2), and that "all the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication" (verse 3). Why would a city be called a whore and be accused of having committed fornication with kings?

    Such an indictment would never be made of London or Moscow or Paris — or any other ordinary city. It wouldn't make sense.

    Fornication and adultery are used in the Bible in both the physical and the spiritual sense. Of Jerusalem God said, "How is the faithful city become a harlot!" (Isaiah 1:21). Israel, whom God had set apart from all other peoples to be holy for His purposes, had entered into unholy, adulterous alliances with the idol worshiping nations about her. She had "committed adultery with stones and with stocks [idols]" (Jeremiah 3:9); "and with their idols have they committed adultery" (Ezekiel 23:37).

    The entire chapter of Ezekiel 16 explains lsrael's spiritual adultery in detail, both with heathen nations and with their false gods, as do many other passages.

    There is no way that a city could engage in literal, fleshly fornication. Thus we can only conclude that John, like the prophets in the Old Testament, is using the term in its spiritual sense. The city, therefore, must claim a spiritual relationship with God. Otherwise such an allegation would be meaningless.

    Though it is built on seven hills, there would be no reason to accuse Rio de Janeiro of spiritual fornication. It makes no claim of having a special relationship with God. And though Jerusalem has that relationship, it cannot be the woman riding on the beast, for it is not built on seven hills. Nor does it meet the other criteria by which this woman is to be identified.

    Against only one other city in history could a charge of fornication be leveled. That city is Rome, and more specifically Vatican City. She claims to have been the worldwide headquarters of Christianity since its beginning and maintains that claim to this day. Her pope enthroned in Rome claims to be the exclusive representative of God, the vicar of Christ. Rome is the headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church, and in that too she is unique.

    Numerous churches, of course, are headquartered in cities, but only one city is the headquarters of a church. The Mormon Church, for example, is headquartered in Salt Lake City, but there is much more to Salt Lake City than the Mormon Church.

    Not so with Vatican City. It is the heartbeat of the Roman Catholic Church and nothing else. She is a spiritual entity that could very well be accused of spiritual fornication if she did not remain true to Christ.




  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    #2
    I should have posted this first...



    A City on Seven Hills

    A woman rides the beast, and that woman is a city built on seven hills that reigns over the kings of the earth! Was ever in all of history such a statement made? John immediately equates the readers' acceptance of this revelation with "wisdom." We dare not pass over such a disclosure casually. It merits our careful and prayerful attention.

    Here is no mystical or allegorical language but an unambiguous statement in plain words: "The woman … is that great city." There is no justification for seeking some other hidden meaning. Yet books have been written and sermons preached insisting that "Mystery Babylon" is the United States.

    That is clearly not the case, for the United States is a country, not a city. One might justifiably refer to the United States as Sodom, considering the honor now given to homosexuals, but it is definitely not the Babylon that John sees in this vision. The woman is a city.

    Furthermore, she is a city built on seven hills. That specification eliminates ancient Babylon. Only one city has for more than 2000 years been known as the city on seven hills. That city is Rome.

    The Catholic Encyclopedia states: "It is within the city of Rome, called the city of seven hills, that the entire area of Vatican State proper is now confined."

    There are, of course, other cities, such as Rio de Janeiro, that were also built on seven hills. Therefore, John provides at least seven more characteristics to limit the identification to Rome alone. We will examine each one in detail in subsequent chapters. However, as a preview of where we are going, we will list them now and discuss each one briefly.

    As we shall see, there is only one city on the earth which, in both historical and contemporary perspectives, passes every test John gives, including its identification as Mystery Babylon. That city is Rome, and more specifically, Vatican City.

    Even Catholic apologist Karl Keating admits that Rome has long been known as Babylon. Keating claims that Peter's statement "The church here in Babylon ... sends you her greeting" (from I Peter 5:13) proves that Peter was writing from Rome.

    He explains further: Babylon is a code word for Rome. It is used that way six times in the last book of the Bible [four of the six are in chapters 17 and 18] and in extrabiblical works such as Sibylling Oracles (5, 159f.), the Apocalypse of Baruch (ii, 1), and 4 Esdras (3: 1).

    Eusebius Pamphilius, writing about 303, noted that "it is said that Peter's first epistle … was composed at Rome itself; and that he himself indicates this, referring to the city figuratively as Babylon." As for "Mystery," that name imprinted on the woman's fore-head is the perfect designation for Vatican City.

    Mystery is at the very heart of Roman Catholicism, from the words "Mysterium fide" pronounced at the alleged transformation of the bread and wine into the literal body and blood of Christ to the enigmatic apparitions of Mary around the world.

    Every sacrament, from baptism to extreme unction, manifests the mysterious power which the faithful must believe the priests wield, but for which there is no visible evidence. Rome's new Catechism explains that liturgy "aims to initiate souls into the mystery of Christ (It is ‘mystagogy.')" and that all of the Church's liturgy is "mystery."




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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35157

      #3
      Elvis have you considered counselling?

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      • diamondD
        Veteran
        • Jan 2004
        • 1962

        #4
        Sounds like Hillary! to me.
        Meet us in the future, not the pasture

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58754

          #5
          Originally posted by diamondD
          Sounds like Hillary! to me.
          Hillary can't fornicate, because she's married. Though she's apparently trying to "fuck" the Democratic party already.....

          Nor do I neccessrily believe it's the Catholic Church. It could just as easily be the right wing Protestant church, especially people like Junior..

          However, let's take the chapter in the proper context of what happens immediately before and after....

          Revelation chapter 16 details a number of what might be called "natural disasters" though in this case "supernatural disaster" might be more appropriate. some things that are mentioned include an earthquake which causes islands to disappear. This very thing happenned in the recent tsunami. There is also mention of the Euphrates river drying up. And where is the Euphrates river located? Iraq. And Babylon is mentioned among all this carnage as being targeted to "recieve the cup of God's wrath"

          Revelation 18 on the other hand, refers to Babylon as a city and as a center of world trade, so to speak, that was brought down in destruction within one hour

          Sound familiar?

          So clearly, Babylon cannot refer to a church. Nor would it likely refer simply to New York City alone. My theory is that Babylon is a metaphor for the entire Corporatist/fascist system which has consumed this country and spread its influence over the planet, including the whore media and the right wing church. The Euphrates river might well dry up after coninued bombings, and if I recall, Saddam wasn't entirely kind to the river either. But the facts that islands are disappearing as a result of earthquakes already, and that the scene in chapter 18 has already happenned tells you that we are indeed in the times when these prophecies are being fulfilled.

          Which means you shouldn't dismiss the idea that the Antichrist could be in power right now
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

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          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • ODShowtime
            ROCKSTAR

            • Jun 2004
            • 5812

            #6
            That's why I like to get drunk
            gnaw on it

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