The Smiths

[Soul Reaper]

I think they are a very cool band, although they get some mixed opinions from most people.

Your thoughts on them?

[loss of fools]

there one of the most boring pieces of crap ever.

[fe_lung]

Liked The Smiths but prefer Morrissey on his own.

[secrets]

The Smiths are actually an excellent band. Used to hate them big time in fact but some of their songs are just priceless. Some are also quite depressing too.

The Queen is Dead, is blinding. A song about getting rid of the monarchy. Great stuff. This actually really rocks.

Big Mouth Strikes again also a very good song.

Shop Lifters of the world unite and take over. Hilarious.

Worth getting just for the lyrics alone. Yeah I like em.

[secrets]

Soul reaper deserves 5 stars. Oh you know the rest....

[FORD]

One has to give Morrisey his props for predicting the rise of shitty corporate radio & record company mergers....

Burn down the disco
Hang the blessed DJ
Because the music that they constantly play
IT SAYS NOTHING TO ME ABOUT MY LIFE
Hang the blessed DJ
Because the music they constantly play


On the Leeds side-streets that you slip down
Provincial towns you jog 'round
Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ

[secrets]

Nice one Ford. Actually I heard that it was written about a DJ who had played a song by Wham or some other gay 80s pop band after announcing the IRA terrorist bombing in the heart of Manchester.

Makes sense to me. Hang the DJ indeed.

[Jérôme Frenchise]

The Smiths? pfff... So full of emptiness, up to grotesque.(just my opinion)

[Panamark]

GAY GAY GAY

[Panamark]

Not referring to you Soul Reaper, by the way. I just think The Smiths
were a gay band. (If Im thinking of the right dudes). Did they call
themselves the housesmiths at one stage too ???

[secrets]

Listen to the song 'The Queen is Dead' then get back to us.

[MAX]

Johnny Marr is a pretty good guitar player for that kind of music. Never much cared for the Smiths but I always did like "How Soon Is Now?" for some reason.

[Kelly]

Originally posted by Panamark
Not referring to you Soul Reaper, by the way. I just think The Smiths
were a gay band. (If Im thinking of the right dudes). Did they call
themselves the housesmiths at one stage too ???

No, that was a different band. I love the Smiths - very funny, intelligent band. Got a little girly for me sometimes, but Morrisey is a bit of an icon and Marr is a great guitarist. Meat is Murder - classic.

[Jesus Christ]

Originally posted by Panamark
Not referring to you Soul Reaper, by the way. I just think The Smiths
were a gay band. (If Im thinking of the right dudes). Did they call
themselves the housesmiths at one stage too ???

Ye might be thinking of the Housemartins who were another English pop group of the same era, whose singer sounded similar to Morrisey, but less depressing.

Verily, even I the Messiah get depressed listening to The Smiths

[academic punk]

Of course they were gay - Morrissey was proudly the biggest fop in the history of rock, and that's saying something! But Marr was one of the best guitarists/songsmiths of the 80s, and, come on, how's this for lyrical insight:

So I broke into the palace
With a sponge and a rusty spanner
She (the Queen) said "Eh, I know you and you cannot sing"
I said, "That's nothing, you should hear me play piano"

my personal fave:

Some girls are bigger than others
Some girls are bigger than others
Some girls are bigger than others
Some girls mothers are bigger than other girls mothers

I also remember one time in 1988 some one calling my local radio station and requesting "Girlfriend in a Coma" because his mother didn't believe a song with that title could possibly exist.

[Matt White]

Never liked the "Fey" Brit bands.

[Panamark]

Me neither,

Bronksi Beat makes me want to physically harm people.
And I dont like feeling that way. :eek:

[Panamark]

Originally posted by Jesus Christ
Ye might be thinking of the Housemartins who were another English pop group of the same era, whose singer sounded similar to Morrisey, but less depressing.

Verily, even I the Messiah get depressed listening to The Smiths

Ah yes ! The almighty is righty ! Twas the Housemartins I was thinking of. That was defiantely GAY GAY GAY. Horrible whiny brit homo shit.

[FORD]

I didn't realize that Fatboy Slim was in the Housemartins. Damn, learn something new every day. Definitely a radical musical departure between that band and what he's doing now.

[Panamark]

Fatboy Slim ey ? Housemartins ey ?

Makes perfect sense to me.

GAY GAY GAY

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Well. Gayness is just side information, after all. What counts is the nature of their music, which I don't like either.

Thus, who cared about Freddie Mercury being homo?

But I've got to confess I use non-musical arguments too when it comes to bashing artists I dislike. Maybe it's human.:confused:

[Panamark]

There is a difference between a gay singer singing decent music, and a gay band singing gay music..

I rest my case.

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by Panamark
There is a difference between a gay singer singing decent music, and a gay band singing gay music..

I rest my case.

I agree. This was precisely my point. Any deviance they have will come to the foreground of observers' minds when artists reveal to be however over-rated.
A few examples I see for different reasons: Andy Warhol, Poppa Chubby, Marilyn Manson, the Sex Pistols, Billy Idol, Gary Glitter, Spam Hagar...
Once they've got on your nerves, you'll focus on anything that you hardly stand about any other people. Who would say it isn't so? It's just human, I think.

[Jérôme Frenchise]

... although Dave hasn't been doing anything else than so much more than the most of it, too!

[Panamark]

Lets use Freddie Mercury as the benchamark, as he is always the first name to arise in this debate, he sang some rock and roll absolute classics, and was totally gay. Then look at Pet Shop Boys or Bronkski Beat or any of those other fag bands.. They sang fag music.

Fag music is really horrible, unless you are a fag I guess ??

Bronski Beat is the worst shit Ive ever heard, It makes Boy George
almost listenable.

[academic punk]

Before Elton John made it, one of the songs he covered was called "Can't Tell the Bottom From the Top"?

How's that for foreshadowing!

[secrets]

Originally posted by Panamark
Fag music is really horrible, unless you are a fag I guess ??

Bronski Beat is the worst shit Ive ever heard, It makes Boy George
almost listenable.

Those bands were shite I agree. Wouldn't put the Smiths in the same category even if Morrisey was that way inclined which I don't think he was.

Frankly Mr Shankly The Smiths were probably one of THE most original and important British pop bands since The Beatles.

[Last_Child]

I've never heard them....

[Satan]

Actually, word here in Hell is that Morrisey is asexual. He's just too damn depressed to fuck anybody.

And a Devil would have to agree that Bronski Beat was an awful, horrible band. One that I've used to torment the damned, in fact. But you take a band like Erasure, on the other horn. Totally gay without a doubt, but as far as synth pop goes, they were very good at it. And it's not like their songs were all about fucking guys.

But then there's Pansy Division whose songs ARE all about fucking guys, and they're STILL hell-arious, simply because they're so in your face (good music to piss off your right wing neighbors with)

[pete]

The first time I heard "How soon is now" it was haunting. I found it right at home between the DORRS and FLOYD.

[Soul Reaper]

This Charming Man... that song's been in my head for ages. It's definitely catchy.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
This Charming Man... that song's been in my head for ages. It's definitely catchy.

I would go out tonight
But I haaaaven't got a stitch to weeeeaar!

[academic punk]

I travelled nooorth
I ventured sooouth
Annnd I got confused
I killed a nun

I can't help the way I feeeeel!
'Cause I love you!!!

("Is It Really So Strange?")

[secrets]

Their lyrics are grate. There are so called metal bands that I could mention that sound totally gay in comparison to The Smiths.

Take a band like Bon Jovi, and please do take them if you can, what have they got lyrically that comes close to dealing with:

Killing the Queen of England

Hanging DJs

Arson

Shoplifters taking over the world

Girl friends in commas.

I rest my case.

[pete]

nothing at all.

[Soul Reaper]

If asked would say you liked U2 or The Smiths more?

U2 and The Smiths did come out of the same new-wave era and they were probably the two bands which were more successful.

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by academic punk
I would go out tonight
But I haaaaven't got a stitch to weeeeaar!

Punctured bicycle
On a hillside desolate
Will nature make a man of me yet ?

When in this charming car
This charming man

Why pamper life’s complexities
When the leather runs smooth
On the passenger seat ?

I would go out tonight
But I haven’t got a stitch to wear
This man said it’s gruesome
That someone so handsome should care

Ah ! a jumped-up pantry boy
Who never knew his place
He said return the ring
He knows so much about these things
He knows so much about these things

I would go out tonight
But I haven’t got a stitch to wear
This man said it’s gruesome
That someone so handsome should care
La, la-la, la-la, la-la, this charming man ...
Oh, la-la, la-la, la-la, this charming man ...

Ah ! a jumped-up pantry boy
Who never knew his place
He said return the ring
He knows so much about these things
He knows so much about these things
He knows so much about these things

[secrets]

Originally posted by Soul Reaper
If asked would say you liked U2 or The Smiths more?

That's a whole new thread.

Lyrically The Smiths win. Musically I'd probably have to say U2, but not by much.

[Nitro Express]

All I know is I was fucking a chick who was into them when I was in college. Some kinky goth type chick who would do anything.

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
All I know is I was fucking a chick who was into them when I was in college. Some kinky goth type chick who would do anything.

er... cool!