My Essential Black Sabbath

[bueno bob]

Right now burning this all together for long drives...what do ya think? 2 CDs with Ozzy, 1 with Dio, and the 4th with Ian Gillan, Glenn Hughs and Tony Martin...I think it's pretty all inclusive...

CD #01:

01 - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
02 - Symptom of the Universe
03 - Into the Void
04 - Black Sabbath
05 - War Pigs
06 - The Wizard
07 - Killing Yourself to Live
08 - Megalomania
09 - Iron Man
10 - Snowblind
11 - Sweet Leaf
12 - Faeries Wear Boots
13 - Gypsy
14 - Psycho Man

CD #02:

01 - Children of the Grave
02 - Spiral Architect
03 - N.I.B.
04 - Paranoid
05 - Under the Sun
06 - The Thrill of it All
07 - Rock 'n' Roll Doctor
08 - Never Say Die
09 - Dirty Women
10 - A Hard Road
11 - Back Street Kids
12 - Lord of This World
13 - Selling My Soul

CD #03:

01 - Turn Up the Night
02 - Neon Knights
03 - Heaven and Hell
04 - Voodoo
05 - Time Machine (Wayne's World Version)
06 - The Mob Rules
07 - Children of the Sea
08 - The Sign of the Southern Cross
09 - TV Crimes
10 - Die Young
11 - Slipping Away
12 - Lonely is the Word
13 - Buried Alive

CD #04:

01 - Zero the Hero
02 - Born Again
03 - Hot Line
04 - No Stranger to Love
05 - Eternal Idol
06 - Glory Ride
07 - Headless Cross
08 - Anno Mundi
09 - The Hand That Rocks the Cradle
10 - Devil & Daughter
11 - Cross of Thorns
12 - The Shining
13 - Get a Grip
14 - Sick and Tired
15 - Forbidden
16 - Fluff

[Terry]

Gotta tell you, I have always totally dug Born Again.

Saw Black Sabbath with Ian in 1983, with Quiet Riot opening (they were just starting to get some heavy MTV rotation for Come On Feel The Noize). Quiet Riot sucked bad, but Sabbath with Gillan fuckin' rocked.

Virtually every reviewer, even those that review hard rock and know of what they speak, say that Born Again was a / the low point of Sab's career, but I prefer that album to the Dio stuff myself.

Digital Bitch.....Hot Line....Disturbing the Priest.......classic stuff.

[Panamark]

Whats it gonna be, whats it gonna be brother ??

[Atomic_Rob]

ahh, no Hole In The Sky or Hand of Doom from the Ozzy era.

Did Gillan actually go well with Sabbath? I've never heard Born again...

[Terry]

Impossibility, impissibolity mother

[Terry]

Originally posted by Atomic_Rob
ahh, no Hole In The Sky or Hand of Doom from the Ozzy era.

Did Gillan actually go well with Sabbath? I've never heard Born again...

I thought Gillan w/Sab sounded good. The music was fuckin' HEAVY!

The album cover was kind of a laugh, though, with that little baby devil.

[Stillwell]

Originally posted by Terry
I thought Gillan w/Sab sounded good. The music was fuckin' HEAVY!

The album cover was kind of a laugh, though, with that little baby devil.

Sad thing is, the artist who drew up that cover did it to get fired. He was working for both the Sabs and Ozzy and wanted to stick with Oz.

He thought it would surely get him fired, but Geezer and Tony loved it.....

[Stillwell]

I would add Computer God (put it right after H&H), Country Girl, I, Jerusalem, Valhalla, Kill in the Spirit World, and Psychophobia.

[Shaun Ponsonby]

Originally posted by Terry
The album cover was kind of a laugh, though, with that little baby devil.

Classic Rock Magazine, Sleevenotes (Black Sabbath-Born Again)

Jan 2005 issue.


Released-1983
Highest UK chart posistion-4
Sleeve design-Steve Joule


Although not rated among the most popular Sabbath albums, the cover work for the recently reissued 'Born Again' has created more controversy than any of the bands records, even causing new Sabs singer, ex-Deep Purple man Ian Gillan, to famously exclaim "I looked at the cover and puked!" According to designer Steve 'Krusher' Joule, the circumstances behind the sleeve's birth were highly unusaul.

"Sharon and Ozzy Osbourne had split very acrimoniously from her father Don Arden's mangement and record label," he explains. "Don wreaked his revenge by stealing as many of Sharon and Ozzy's team as possible for Sabbath, whom he managed. As I was designing Ozzy's album sleeves at the time, I also got approached."

Not wanting to upset The Osbournes, Krushner submitted a selection of deliberately second-rate cover designs for the next Sabbath album, intending to get himself off the hook.

"The one one of the baby was actually the front cover of a 1968 magazine called Made Alive. I took some black and white photocopies of the image that I overexposed, stuck the horns, nails, fangs into the equation, used the most outrageous colour combination that acid could buy, bastardised a bit of the Olde English typeface and sat back, shook my head and chuckled."

However, Sabs guitarist Tony Iommi and bassit Geezer Butler actually liked it.

"Suddenly, I had to do this bloody thing," he grimaces. "I was also offered a ridiculous amount of money to deliver finished artwork by a certain date.. I kept putting it off, until the day before, when I sprang into action with the help of a neighbour, Steve 'Fingers' Barrett, a bottle of Jack Daniels and the filthiest speed that money could buy. We bashed it out in a night, but strangely, Max Cavalera (Sepultura/Soulfly) and Glen Benton (Decide) have since said t was their favourite album sleeve!"

Claims from certain quarters that 'Born Again' rips off the artwork for the 1981 Depeche Mode single 'New Life', are emphatically denied, "It played no part in my design," insists Krushner. "In fact, I only found out about that very recently."

[bueno bob]

What bullshit. It's the same fucking picture with added devil horns and fingernails with different coloring. "It played no part in my design"...bullllllllllllllllshit!

I liked the cover myself, too Very evil.

"Born Again", as an album, has some of the HEAVIEST stuff Sabbath's ever put to tape...Zero the Hero, Digital Bitch, Hot Line, Disturbing the Priest, Born Again (the gloom on that track is AMAZING - it's a virtual soundtrack to slit your wrists to...). The production fucking SUCKS, but mostly that's due to Robin Black and Geezer Butler making everything too fucking bass heavy...a problem Geezer had been indulging in since "Live Evil". It's really too bad Ritchie Blackmore got the idea for Deep Rainbow and Ian left to go do it, because I would have LOVED to see where they'd have went with Ian...it was a HELL of a great team.

[Shaun Ponsonby]

Bob, can I ask you something?

Everywhere I look I see "Bueno Bob has owned Jesterstar", what was so great about this particular owning that you have to display it everywhere?

[Stillwell]

Originally posted by bueno bob
It's really too bad Ritchie Blackmore got the idea for Deep Rainbow and Ian left to go do it, because I would have LOVED to see where they'd have went with Ian...it was a HELL of a great team.

Thank God this happened. I liked Born Again, but you could tell that if a second album happened, it would've been shite. Tony wasn't able to utilize Ian properly. Blackmore, on the other hand, took Ian from the trash heap and produced three albums that made Born Again look like a joke.

[Shaun Ponsonby]

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Stillwell
Thank God this happened. I liked Born Again, but you could tell that if a second album happened, it would've been shite. Tony wasn't able to utilize Ian properly. Blackmore, on the other hand, took Ian from the trash heap and produced three albums that made Born Again look like a joke.

Well...opinions vary We'll agree to disagree on that one, but don't get me wrong, I liked Perfect Strangers and a few songs off of House of Blue Light. It just sounded more JLT era Rainbow with Ian Gillan singing than Purple to my ears.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
Bob, can I ask you something?

Everywhere I look I see "Bueno Bob has owned Jesterstar", what was so great about this particular owning that you have to display it everywhere?

It was an owning to end all ownings. I was actually just heading off to change it, since it's been properly announced.

[Terry]

I thought Perfect Strangers was brilliant, and am not really catching the Rainbow/Joe Lynn Turner comparison at all, since JLT doesn't write lyrics like Gillan and doesn't even sound like him. There will be some similarities, of course, because of RB and Glovers participation in both.

Too funny about the circumstances behind the Born Again album cover. Always thought it was totally laughable............loved the comment about the title track (music to slit your wrists to). That album
was so fuckin' heavy. A little bit bass heavy in the mix, agreed, but live Born Again-era Sabbath was even more relentless as far as the bass in the mix was concerned. They encored with Paranoid, and Butlers 4-string was cranking so loud it literally felt like my chest was caving in.

Bev Bevan from ELO played drums on that show we saw, which was always kind of a bummer, 'cause we were looking forward to seeing Geezer Butler. His drumming on that album was great.

[Stillwell]

Speaking of live era Born Again, Iommi playing Smoke of the Water has to be one of the cooler things to happen in metal.

The Deep Purple reunion was far from "Deep Rainbow." That wouldn't happen until 1990. PS and HOTBL was just Purple updating their sound for the 80s. They would've sounded old, slow, and out of place if they tried to deliver a "In Rock" sound.