Gay Mariage...

[Mezro]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Besides being very well said, this is a proven fact!

I happen to have confidence in my own sexuality.

Mezro...hi...I'm Mezro...I'm fully shaved..and you...

[thome]

Why does a sexual preferance deserve a Lobby on capital hill?


i have a few gay freinds and they think all this promotive BS is for
Gays to justify there behavior by convincing OTHERS that its
proper behavior Inherantly THEY are the ones who dont respect
themselves.Forceing people to tell them its ok
I personally dont care what poeple stick in what as long as its
Mutual .Ok it does creep me out. Is that ok or am i a hate crime


By the way these Lezzie girls love that joke... and me

[moose]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
EVERYWHERE???
Where do you live?

It might be your imagination playing tricks on you?

Come to Toronto, or better yet just watch tv after 10:00pm.
And I don't hate fags, I DESPISE THEM!

[moose]

Originally posted by Mezro
Love is love and marriage is an extension of true love. All people deserve this right.

Sorry I believe that marriage is sacred and should be kept that way.
Let them other folks live comman-law.

Mezro...most people that gay bash are pretty much closeted or have zero confidence in their own sexuality...

Wow this is gettin nasty. Even the mighty Mez has added his2 cents into this. Maybe coming from San Fran has something to do with it. These are my beliefs and I'm sticking to em'.

[moose]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777



EX: A pedofile getting away with only 2 years in prison, for ruining a child's life forever, and much more...

Good point, again I say it's the goverments fault for not spending more time on issues like this, rather than worry about legalizing marriage for the gay community.
Whats more important in life, gays getting married or children starving, famine, war, pedophiles running loose in todays society,
HIV running rampant in South Africa, India, so is it a great day to be a Canadian, just because we legalized gay marriages or would it have been better if we announced that our judicial system has decided to tighten the screws to murders, pedophiles, rapists, murderes or that we have a cure for Aids/Cancer.
No it's not a great day!

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by moose
so is it a great day to be a Canadian, just because we legalized gay marriages or would it have been better if we announced that our judicial system has decided to tighten the screws to murders, pedophiles, rapists, murderes or that we have a cure for Aids/Cancer.
No it's not a great day!

Solving one problem doesn't prevent another one to be solved...
Come on!

It took few months to come up with this new law although, they've ("they", would be many countries) been reaserching on aids for decades!!!

IT IS a great day and I hope we'll see other ones like that soon...

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by moose
Come to Toronto, or better yet just watch tv after 10:00pm.
And I don't hate fags, I DESPISE THEM!

YOU would be better off to quit "WATCHING"...

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by thome


i have a few gay freinds...

By the way these Lezzie girls love that joke... and me

YEA RRRRIGHT!!!!!

[Mezro]

Usually when a person drops the "gay friend" line it is just a bullshit afterthought to try and soften their homophobia in a public forum.

I have friends: not gay friends or bi friends or transgender friends or asian friends...just friends.

Mezro...drop the cute little fucking identifiers...people are people...and love is love...

[Rikk]

I can't believe there are still some strong homophobes. For Christ's sake, when will people realize civil rights issues when they see them? Practically all the same "justifications" for limiting civil rights for blacks in the early Twentieth Century are still being used by some folk for homosexuals.

What the fuck difference should it make to anyone if one person wants to marry another person? I hate to break it to all the churches of the world, but they do not own the definition of marriage...they only own their own definition of marriage. If the Catholic Church wants to say, "You can't get married in our Church", all power to 'em. But that doesn't mean they can limit what's declared in a courtroom.

Christ, I have friends that have married hosebeasts. Just because I wouldn't dream of marrying said hosebeasts doesn't mean I should disallow them from taking their vows.

[Nitro Express]

Religion is the key point of the gay argument. Most traditional Christian religions view homosexuality as a sin. It's traditionally pointed out that one of the key reasons Soddom and Gomorah were destroyed by God was the rampant homosexuality going on.

The gay rights movement comes into direct clash with the traditional Christian beliefs many people believe in. In the United States, we are becoming a divided country over who believes in traditional Christian values and who does not. It's finally come down to the point of where you either have to accept the new concept of gay marriage or hold to the old beliefs and view it as sinful. There is no middle road on this issue. Never before have I ever seen so much hate on both sides of the fence. It's a seriouse matter and this issue and others is going to test the United States. Never before have I seen the political dissatisfaction to levels where sometimes I wonder if people are just going to get fed up to the point of organizing a dissention from the union. I'm sure my ultra conservative Mormon relatives in Alberta are loving the new Canadian law.

I'm an agnostic, I see it this way, if homosexuality is a sin and if Jesus is coming back soon, he's going to take care of it. He's going to add some chlorine to the gene pool and rapture the people worth saving.

If homosexuality is something people are indeed born with, the way we live as a community is going to be way different than it ever has been. From an intellectual standpoint, no community that has ever practiced open homosexuality lasts more than a few generations before it falls on it's ass.

My two cents worth is marriage is between and man and a woman. I don't think homosexuals should be able to adopt children because they cannot naturally produce them. I think the best thing for children is to have an adoptive situation where it mimics their natural family as close as possible. If gays want to enter into a contract where they receive some bennefits as a long term couple then this might be the best way to go.

For me, it's a state issue and not a federal govt. issue. The United States is too conservative as a whole to accept such a radical change in the concept of marriage. It might work at the local community level.

I for one would really like to see the federal govt. get out of our local politics more. I think the states should decide on this one. If you don't like the state politics, well, then you can move to where it better fits your lifestyle.

[Rikk]

The thing is this...the only people being infringed upon with gay marriage is gay people. The reason I see it as one-sided and totally self-centered is because homosexuals aren't asking to be married in a Christian person's home where that Christian person can practice whatever the hell it is they want to. The gay person isn't infringing upon a Christian's life. A Christian can be a Christian but not be a Christian to the point of infringing upon other people's lives by imposing his beliefs and version of God on others. If a Christian person cannot tell me that I have to be in Church on Sunday, then he can't tell a homosexual that he can't get married in a non-religious court of law.

[Nitro Express]

Many Christian faiths believe they are obligated to deffend their community against sinful things. These are the people who pressure video stores who rent porn to not to carry it or run them out of business. Many Christians believe that that government should be based on Christian values. In the past, that was no problem but the US is more diverse. Homosexuals view themselves as being discriminated against and use the diversity argument to promote their cause.

This isn't going to be Rodney King going, "Can't we all get along?". The chasm is going to widen and people are going to choose their sides and hunker down. We will see more anti-Christian or may I say anti-religiouse right hate and more homosexual hate. It will basically boil down to what group is better organized and who can buy the most politicians. The last election showed the religiouse right are a powerful lobby. How nasty is it going to get? If push comes to shove, it could get very nasty, expecially if the economy worsens to the point to where people need a scape goat.

[Cathedral]

First of all, Christians need to get their own houses in order before they start marching against what they call blastphemy in the gay community.
Those that have gone public denouncing gays in the name of God are hypocrites because they themselves are not living entirely according to God's law.
A Christian cannot pick and choose what laws of God they must adhere to, the scripture requires that we submit wholly and totally to his will if we are to be redeamed. and since none of them i have seen parading about are doing that, they are hypocrites and they need to shut up and as i said, get their own house in order.

Jesus didn't hate gays, to him they were just another sinner in need of salvation. he wouldn't turn them away and would treat them as everyone else by teaching them the laws of the father.
If they chose not follow him, he'd dust the very sand from his feet as a testimony against them, as with anyone who turned away from Jesus.

Now me, I don't agree with it and i don't accept it as a valid lifestyle.
I have no friends that are gay and i don't plan on having gay people in my home.
But i don't disrespect them when i do meet them in the streets about town.
I treat everyone with respect until they disrespect me and then i remove that individual from my life completely.

What you do in your own home is between you and God, my thoughts and/or opinions don't count and i offer no comments about it.

But bring it to my home and we'll have an issue that prevents you from being welcome in my home.

I think homosexuality is a disgusting act to engage in.
And i don't care what any government rules on this issue, gays are not welcome in my home, period.
I do not accept that lifestyle, and that is that.

I would help anyone who needed help and i had the resources to do so, but i will in no way shape or form give them the impression that i approve of their way of life.
Civil Respect is all i am able to offer, acceptance? Not going to happen.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Its not about hatred or prejudice.

Why can't gays and lesbians do WITHOUT marriage??

Because there are chruches and other sacred places that will no way in hell 'marry' two me or two women.

Why can't they call it something else instead of marriage?? Marriage has far too close ties to religion (afterall, why do we get married in churches or other sacred areas??)

Why can't they call it a "UNION" or something. They go to an office, get registered and sign the papers and that's it.

I'm sorry, but it should not be called "Marriage".

This is a sign that society is extremely fucked up.

I wish it was called civil union because that is what they are trying to obtain. Homosexuals can get married in many different faiths and can hold a marriage-type ceremony of their own. What they're trying to get is a legal civil union. When heteros get married, in a service other than the civil service, it's two different unions. It's the religious marriage and the civil union. The religious counts for the respected faith and the civil counts for gov't dealings. You can have a religious ceremony and be married within a faith without being legally married according to the gov't and you can have a civil union recognized by the gov't that is not seen as binding or blessed by a faith. Currently the religious marriages for homosexuals are not seen as legal to the gov't and hold no legal power with the gov't and that's what they want.

I've said it since the beginning -- call it civil unions and less people would be resistant because they would see if for what it is -- legal rights.