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    'She died, just like anyone else'


    Sunday, July 10, 2005

    'She died, just like anyone else'
    By Joe Eaton
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    Last July, police found 65-year-old Esther Crigger dead and partially consumed by dogs in her Wythe County home. Crigger's husband and two sons were arrested and charged with criminal neglect in her death, but found incompetent to stand trial. A year later, little else has changed in their lives. Still, questions linger.

    A mile outside this Wythe County crossroads, Deputy Bryan Bard responded to a call that 65-year-old Esther Crigger was dead.

    He headed toward the Criggers' crumbling mobile home where he had broken up fights and served warrants several times in the past. Each time, the dirt and the smell of dogs and chickens that lived in the trailer had left him stunned.

    Bard pulled up to the trailer. Inside, he found Esther Crigger lying on a dirty mattress on the floor, surrounded by a pack of dogs eating her body.
    Then Bard looked to his left and saw Crigger's 37-year-old son, Don, standing at the stove about 10 feet from his mother. He was eating eggs from a pan.

    After Bard told Don to help shoo away the dogs, he looked at Esther.

    The dogs had chewed away the flesh from Crigger's left arm from the wrist to the shoulder. Her thumb was gone. The oxygen machine that helped her breathe was silent. Its electrical cord was lying on the floor, unplugged.

    A day later, police arrested Don, his brother Dan, 39, and their 79-year-old father, Elmer, and charged them with criminal neglect in Esther's death.

    Six months later, the prosecution suspended its case against the Criggers. All three were found incompetent to stand trial. Don moved in with a friend. Dan and Elmer went home to their trailer.

    Their lives soon returned to the way they were before their police mug shots were published in local newspapers and a television news truck camped out on their neighbor's lawn.

    But a year later, with the circumstances of Esther Crigger's death known in more detail, many questions remain.

    Chief among them: Who, if anyone, could have saved her?

    On a late April afternoon, three dogs pawed at the screen door of the Criggers' home, which consists of two mobile homes rigged together in the form of a T. The setting is on an acre of land at the end of a gravel road that juts off the main route passing through Speedwell.

    A growing pile of 40-ounce King Cobra beer bottles rested a short toss from their front steps. Chickens roamed nearby.

    Two other trailers sit empty and gutted on the property. Junk cars are rusting into the ground. The yard is overgrown with thickets of weeds.

    Inside, Dan, a large man with deep brown eyes, sat at the kitchen table draining a beer and protecting his immediate surroundings from mice that scurried in the sink and darted over the table attacking scraps.

    Elmer slumped in a chair, a dog named Sister sprawled out on the back of the chair behind his shoulders.

    He spit tobacco into a cutoff windshield-wiper fluid bottle next to his chair and talked about the day his wife died.

    Elmer said he was sleeping in a chair next to his wife that morning. When he woke up, he noticed her eyes were open, but she did not speak. "I shook and shook her," he said.

    He called for Dan. The Criggers do not have a phone. So Dan and his brother drove to a friend's house to call the rescue squad.

    Elmer's story is much different from the police version. He said the 20-plus dogs he owned were outside and nowhere near his wife that day.

    "She died, just like anyone else," he said.

    Elmer is not angry that he was sent to jail for almost two months. He said he did not mind being there. He is only angry about one thing.

    "Son of a b---- wouldn't turn me out to go to my wife's funeral."

    The Crigger trailer smelled of sweat and dogs. The floor was spotted with dog droppings. The ceiling was stained black from a leaky chimney and covered by a mass of spider webs.

    There is no running water. The Criggers said they go to the bathroom in the yard. If there's an outhouse amid the thickets, it clearly is not used.

    None of this seems to bother Elmer, who has lived here for most of his life. When Dan yelled at a mouse that ran close to his arm, Elmer didn't even look at it.

    "Rats got to eat same as anything else," he said. "Can't kill it. You kill one, and a dozen come back."

    A stooped man with a deep cough and chronic stomach pain, Elmer said his home was cleaner when his wife of 45 years was alive. "She took a rag and washed the walls."

    He met Esther Crigger when she was 20 and living in Cripple Creek, a community of less than 500 five miles from Speedwell. He doesn't remember how. He said she took care of the home while he worked a series of jobs including milling cotton and swinging a hammer at a rock quarry.

    Elmer and Dan cannot read or Elmer and Esther Crigger had seven children including Don and Dan. One child died at birth, and his grave was paved over for a road, Elmer said. Another son is in jail for drunken driving.

    The other children do not associate with the family, Elmer said.

    Dan and Elmer don't seem to understand much about what happened to them in the months after Esther's death.

    When asked how long ago his mother died, Dan wasn't sure. A couple months, he said. When asked why he went to jail, Dan thought about it for a moment.

    "They think we murdered Momma."

    Asbury Place at Wytheville is a brick building with white columns and a grassy yard with blooming flowers. Esther Crigger lived on the nursing home's second floor in unit C for about eight months before she returned home just four days before she died.

    She had severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, a debilitating lung disease that left her coughing, wheezing and unable to catch her breath. When she arrived at the home, she could not stand or feed herself.

    Asbury Place staff said she received treatments to help her breathe and soon began to thrive at the home. She ate well and after time was able to feed herself.

    But she was not happy at Asbury Place, Elmer and Dan said.

    Elmer said his wife wanted to live with her family. He has a deep distrust of doctors and said she was the same way.

    "Ain't nothing they can do," he said. "Just give you a teaspoon of medicine about twice a day."

    Dan said it smelled bad at the home.

    Each time they visited Esther, the family told staff that soon they were going to bring her home.

    And each time, staff and Wythe County Social Services workers persuaded them to leave her there. She needed daily breathing treatments and a hospital bed to keep her head propped up or she would die, they told the Criggers.

    They also told Esther the danger she faced at home.

    Kim Hester, a nurse who worked at Asbury Place and had been Crigger's home health nurse years before, talked with her often about her family.

    "She told me she wanted to go home, even though she knew she might not make it," Hester said. "She was adamant about it, and her mind was clear, as much as I could tell."

    On July 2, 2004, Don and Dan drove to Asbury Place with a bottle of oxygen in the back of Don's pickup. This time, the staff could not persuade them to leave her.

    When the Criggers drove away, a nurse telephoned Joan Craft, the director of social services at Asbury Place, at home. Craft told the nurse to call the 24-hour paging system at Wythe County Social Services to warn them that Esther had gone home.

    Social services scheduled a home visit for July 6, the first working day after the Fourth of July holiday. That same day, deputy Bard found her dead. She was last seen on July 5.

    Michael Hall, director of Wythe County Social Services, said the agency had no power to stop Esther Crigger from going home and could not have prevented her death.

    Hall said the agency had worked with the Criggers for years. But by law, the agency could only try to persuade the Criggers to leave their mother at Asbury Place. It could not force her to stay, he said.

    In Virginia, social services can remove adults from their homes only if they are mentally or physically impaired and cannot make, communicate or carry out responsible decisions concerning their well-being.

    Hall said Esther Crigger's doctor determined she was well enough to make her own decisions.

    Through a receptionist, Esther's doctor in Wytheville, Douglas Rogney, declined to comment for this story, citing patient confidentiality.

    In hindsight, it is easy to question the decision not to check on Esther Crigger immediately after the Asbury call came in, Hall said. But, ultimately, he believes the agency is not to blame for her death.

    "The choice was up to her," he said. "Mentally competent adults have the right to make choices that you or I might not consider good choices."

    Still, Hall said he plans to take her case to the General Assembly to start a discussion about the line between personal rights and his agency's power to help adults who may be in danger.

    "I need a woman," Dan said to Elmer.

    "Got to feed a woman," Elmer replied, pointing out Dan's meager means and inability to make money.

    It is an exchange that Dan and Elmer have several times a day. Although both say they are doing fine living together, the one thing Dan desires is female companionship.

    Hester, the woman who several years ago was Esther's home health nurse, said Dan once walked her out to her car to keep the dogs away.

    "We got halfway there and he leaned over to me and he said 'you're perty,'" she said, drawing out his accent. "I thought, 'Oh my God,'" she said, adding that she feared he would not let her leave.

    When the two reached the car, Dan said, " I was going to tell you in there, but I was scared,' " she recalled.

    Tammy Bralley has lived down the street from the Criggers for 15 years. When the Criggers went to jail, she thought they would be gone for good. How can they be incompetent to stand trial if they were competent enough to take care of their mother, she asks.

    Bralley now does her best to avoid the Criggers.

    Another neighbor said he had to threaten the Criggers to make them stop urinating in plain sight of where his daughter plays.

    A judge has prohibited the Criggers from keeping dogs. Yet, they now have three.

    Inside the clerk's office at the Wythe County Courthouse, sealed psychological examinations sit in folders marked with each Crigger's name.

    Whatever is written inside explains why the prosecution of the Criggers was halted. It probably also explains how much they understood about the care Esther Crigger needed.

    But none of this eases the concerns of the Criggers' neighbors.

    Several times most days, Dan walks the mile back and forth from his trailer to the gasoline station to buy bottles of King Cobra, one 40 at a time. In Speedwell, people know him as "Dirty Dan."

    "Something needs to be done about them," Bralley said. "Something needed to be done before that happened."

    If the Criggers have a protector, it is 68-year-old Bane Henley. Don Crigger, a thin man who rarely spoke during conversations about his mother, lives on Henley's property and helps him with odd carpentry jobs. Dan sometimes helps Henley's son repair cars.

    Henley said their arrests were "a lowdown dirty trick as ever been done."

    Esther loved the dogs as much as anyone, he said. What happened to her was as shocking to the family as it was to anyone else. It was a mistake, he said, and the police used the situation to make the Criggers look like monsters.

    That the Criggers are poor cannot be argued. Court records show Elmer and Dan get by on $722 a month from Social Security. Don receives $376. Their refrigerator is often empty except for a few eggs from their hens.

    After his mother died, Dan said he and Elmer thought about selling the land that has been in their family for generations and moving away from Speedwell.

    They decided against it. Elmer said he plans to die there. He said Dan will probably also live the rest of his life there.

    As far as what people in Speedwell think about them, Elmer said they don't care. They just want to be left alone.

    "All me and Dan is doing is trying to live the best we can," Elmer said.



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    Ahh yes..another great story of folks from my area..i swear people..we are not really that bad here in Virginia...just have our share of nuts..
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    I recall an episode on The X files that sounds similar to this.

    3 brothers...had mom chained under a bed in the house...

    Jesus...some people.
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    Originally posted by fairwrning
    Ahh yes..another great story of folks from my area..i swear people..we are not really that bad here in Virginia...just have our share of nuts..
    The location and its laws for punishment doesn't matter in humain crazyness...
    Don't worry,
    We have em' wackos too!

    Anyone heard from KARLA HOMOLKA, from Ontario?
    Beware!

    The sick bitch helped her ex-husband kidnap, rape and kill many kids...
    She filmed him cutting her own sister's body in 2 and then raping it!

    She laughed at everything she did and after only 10 years in jail...
    She is free (now living in Montreal)!
    The psychiatrists admitted that she still has no remorse and will most likely kill again, since she is a fanatic of extreme/famous murderers and is just plain mean...

    But hey,
    We are told that we shouldn't fear for our kids and that she has the right to a new life etc... etc...

    There is sickness everywhere and the laws are not perfect anywhere either!


    Beware of the SHE DEVIL!!!
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    Damn Ally!

    That story sounds like something straight out of Deliverance!
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    Originally posted by Keeyth
    Damn Ally!

    That story sounds like something straight out of Deliverance!
    Yep,
    "Deliverance" or "Gummo"...
    Sacry and Sad!!!

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    I'm just really curious about what these people LOOK like?!
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    Originally posted by BenJammin
    I'm just really curious about what these people LOOK like?!
    I can just imagine... THE WORST!

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    Well, This story has been on my mind since i read it yesterday, and i just was at a loss for words to comment.

    My Mom's health is failing quickly, she had a minor stroke a few months ago and is developing complications from medicine she can't do without.
    Her husband (not my father) fell 2 years ago and has brain damage. he is like a little kid, can't bathe himself and just isn't all there.

    Anyway, I have been considering moving them in with me, i have the room, just not sure if i can stand having my space invaded.

    But the idea of showing up one day to see David eating popcorn while Ceasar makes a meal out of Mom....This story basically horrified me.


    Oh, and this Candian She Devil wouldn't be doing much living if she had done any of those things to my kid.
    In fact i'm quite sure i would have already given her a case of lead poisoning in the brain pan.
    As a matter of fact, she'd have been dealt with within mere feet of the prison she was let go from.

    When Justice fails, I am the law.................
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    Oh, and this Candian She Devil wouldn't be doing much living if she had done any of those things to my kid.


    You're damn right!
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    Originally posted by Cathedral

    Oh, and this Candian She Devil wouldn't be doing much living if she had done any of those things to my kid.
    In fact i'm quite sure i would have already given her a case of lead poisoning in the brain pan.
    As a matter of fact, she'd have been dealt with within mere feet of the prison she was let go from.

    When Justice fails, I am the law.................
    I am there with you 100%...

    I don't have any kids but everytime I hear those terrible stories of abuse, I feel rage inside.
    Especially when justice is laughing at the victims and their families.

    I always wonder if I could keep my sanity and go on living a normal life if someone would touch my baby
    (whatever age my baby would be)...

    Hell, if I would have a girl, I couldn't eaven tolerate to hear her cry about a guy who "just touched" her
    in a place she was not ready for!

    I think that you need to be extremely strong to be a parent these days in order to not freak out on every sick acts happening out there.


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    Originally posted by HELLVIS
    Oh, and this Candian She Devil wouldn't be doing much living if she had done any of those things to my kid.


    You're damn right!
    We had a survey on her release, 2 weeks ago...
    70% of the population DO NOT beleive that she will behave.
    Everybody (almost) is scared!

    Why in the hell are they (the justice system) waiting for her to strike again???


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    Originally posted by Cathedral

    Anyway, I have been considering moving them in with me, i have the room, just not sure if i can stand having my space invaded.
    My advice to you...

    Think about it twice, before taking charge of your Mom. and her husband.
    As good hearted as you are and as strong as you feel...
    It is very hard to take care of elderlys!

    Trust me, I know what I'm talking about...

    Good Luck!

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    You could easily hit a child murderer or pedophile from a safe distance with a super soaker full of kerosene. Then, with the toss of a stick match, they could get a preview of hell while they are on their way there.

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    Originally posted by BenJammin
    I'm just really curious about what these people LOOK like?!
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    Originally posted by ashstralia
    L.O.L.
    Yep!
    Burping, scratchin' their balls, spitting and picking at their nose all the time...

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    Originally posted by HELLVIS
    You could easily hit a child murderer or pedophile from a safe distance with a super soaker full of kerosene. Then, with the toss of a stick match, they could get a preview of hell while they are on their way there.
    Holly shit!
    And I thought IIII had devilish plans...
    :eek:

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    Originally posted by blonddgirl777
    Holly shit!
    And I thought IIII had devilish plans...
    :eek:
    Oh, I could think of worse. That's just the FIRST thing that came to mind.

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    Wow!
    Tell me more?

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    I'm not sure that would be a good idea. You see, I could damage the kind, gentle, loving, sweet image of me which you must have formed by now!

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    Originally posted by HELLVIS
    I'm not sure that would be a good idea. You see, I could damage the kind, gentle, loving, sweet image of me which you must have formed by now!
    You're right!
    Plus, let's not give the psychos. out there some more ideas...

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    Originally posted by blonddgirl777
    We had a survey on her release, 2 weeks ago...
    70% of the population DO NOT beleive that she will behave.
    Everybody (almost) is scared!

    Why in the hell are they (the justice system) waiting for her to strike again???

    Unfortunately our justice system sucks. Her ex-husband Bernardo is in a private cell far away from all the other inmates who wanna get their
    hands on him. He is pretty much enjoying himself there and she gets
    out without showing any remorse. She wants to live a private life, but
    she gave that up a long time ago.

    YOU SOLD YOUR SOUL!
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    Originally posted by RuzDNailz
    Unfortunately our justice system sucks. Her ex-husband Bernardo is in a private cell far away from all the other inmates who wanna get their
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    out without showing any remorse. She wants to live a private life, but
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    YOU SOLD YOUR SOUL!
    She made a pact with the Devil himself and shall burn for that!

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    Originally posted by RuzDNailz
    Unfortunately our justice system sucks. Her ex-husband Bernardo is in a private cell far away from all the other inmates who wanna get their
    hands on him. He is pretty much enjoying himself there and she gets
    out without showing any remorse. She wants to live a private life, but
    she gave that up a long time ago.

    YOU SOLD YOUR SOUL!
    Have you noticed that there are career criminals? They go to prison early in life; and it is their home. They get out and deliberately do things like murder, kidnapping, rape, whatever to get put back in.
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    Originally posted by blonddgirl777
    My advice to you...

    Think about it twice, before taking charge of your Mom. and her husband.
    As good hearted as you are and as strong as you feel...
    It is very hard to take care of elderlys!

    Trust me, I know what I'm talking about...

    Good Luck!
    Thank You, but i mentioned it to her today and she refused the offer.

    My brother and his wife made the same offer a few weeks ago, i was not aware of this, but they have no kids left at home and more room than i do. I live in a condo, they have a huge ass house.

    I'm a bit relieved, but will do what i can to help pick up the slack.

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