The Official NHL Thread

Collapse
This is a sticky topic.
X
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Vinnie Velvet
    Full Member Status

    • Feb 2004
    • 4577

    Re: Re: Penguins sign Gonchar to $25-million deal

    Originally posted by Full Bug
    GM ruining Leafs
    So far, Ferguson out to lunch in new NHL
    By STEVE SIMMONS

    JOHN FERGUSON hasn't looked so cool with how he has handled some of the Maple Leafs' affairs. (Michael Peake, SUN files)
    TWO DAYS into the brave new hockey world and already John Ferguson's reputation is taking a pounding.

    What, players and agents are wondering, is the general manager of the Maple Leafs doing?

    The answers, however varied, are not encouraging.

    Ferguson's clumsy handling of negotiations with Gary Roberts and Joe Nieuwendyk -- where he attempted to have close friend Roberts undercut close friend Nieuwendyk -- sent a cryptic message to those within the industry. And then, to follow that up with a desperation offer to Nieuwendyk, after first trying an end run on him, only demonstrated his own inexperience in deal making.

    Players talk. Word gets around fast. The Leafs have suddenly become an exit ramp instead of a destination. Those who play for the team and those who want to play for the team now wonder amongst themselves about the lack of buyouts, about free-agent qualifying offers, about a team that appears to be heading nowhere.

    There were 57 messages on Roberts' cellular phone on Monday, almost of all them from players around the NHL. Not coincidentally, Adam Foote, hoping to play for the Leafs, signed a long-term contract in Columbus, where no one grows up dreaming of playing for the Blue Jackets.

    Just last week, board chairman Larry Tanenbaum described the Leafs as the "No. 1 franchise in the National Hockey League." Today, we might demand a recount, as the No. 1 franchise is finding itself forced to dine out on other people's table scraps.

    The way Ferguson has positioned this team in the post-lockout NHL has one wondering exactly why Pat Quinn was replaced as general manager in the first place.

    Ferguson insisted the Leafs would be competitive this coming season. He has not wavered from that stance. But how is that going to be possible?

    Ferguson has said he had a plan heading into the re-establishment of the NHL, but no plan is evident. And the notion that he is clearing cap room to take a run at younger free agents a year from now makes nice logic if: a) you believe it; b) you think players such as Vinny Lecavalier, Joe Thornton and Jarome Iginla won't be signed long term by then; c) he has the foresight and long-term confidence to write-off an entire season and deal with the fall-out from that.

    The largest problem for the Leafs is how little money they have and how the player market -- post lockout -- hasn't corrected itself as much as many expected it to. Conventional wisdom was there would be a significant drop in player contract values in the new economic world.

    So far, that hasn't been the case.

    Quality defenceman such as Foote, Adrian Aucoin, Derian Hatcher and Mike Rathje have all signed in the $3-million to $4-million range per season. That's more money than even some optimistic of agents were banking on.

    Yesterday, quality forwards but not star players such as Glen Murray, Bobby Holik and Pavol Demitra all signed contracts for more than $4 million a season. Which is out of the Leafs' price range because of the way they've bungled their cap situation.

    With only a maximum of $9 million left to spend -- and remember, the Leafs and every team have to leave some room available in order to make moves during the season -- Ferguson has the ability to sign one reasonably priced player and not much more than that.

    So he will gamble on Jason Allison, who hasn't played a full season in four years and he will hope. And he likely will gamble on Eric Lindros, who he can afford because Lindros missed 100 days of hockey last time there was a season and qualifies for performance bonuses and he will hope.

    The No. 1 team in hockey, built on gambling, hoping and inexperience.

    A year ago, the Leafs had Nieuwendyk and Roberts and Alexander Mogilny and Owen Nolan and Brian Leetch and Tie Domi -- all of them real pros -- on a team that wasn't considered good enough.

    How is John Ferguson going to fix that now?
    Geez, he's just as bad as his old man when he was running the Jets in the 80s.
    =V V=
    ole No.1 The finest
    EAT US AND SMILE

    Comment

    • guwapo_rocker

      Scott Niedermayer

      Just signed with Anaheim.

      Comment

      • guwapo_rocker

        Numminen

        Just signed with the Sabres.

        Comment

        • Sheep Hunter
          Full On Cocktard
          • Jul 2004
          • 22

          Flyers ship Roenick to Los Angeles

          TSN.ca Staff



          8/4/2005 12:53:14 PM

          One of the most colourful and outspoken players in the National Hockey League will get a chance to shine in Tinseltown, as the Philadelphia Flyers have traded veteran centre Jeremy Roenick and a third round pick in the 2006 NHL Entry Draft to the Los Angeles Kings on Thursday in exchange for future considerations.

          The deal comes just a day after the Flyers signed free-agent forward Peter Forsberg to a two-year, $11.5 million US contract and the team was expected to trade Roenick and keep their payroll under the $39 million US salary cap.

          Roenick will make $4.94 million US this season.

          In 16 seasons with the Flyers, Phoenix Coyotes and Chicago Blackhawks, Roenick has scored 475 goals and 1120 points in 1124 regular season games.

          Link


          I'm vewy vewy happy.
          Last edited by Sheep Hunter; 08-04-2005, 01:02 PM.

          Comment

          • guwapo_rocker

            Penguins sign forward Andre Roy

            8/4/2005 12:17:17 PM

            The Pittsburgh Penguins made another move in the free agent signing period, signing right wing Andre Roy.

            Terms of the contract were not released.

            Roy, 30, played in 33 games for the Tampa Bay Lightning during the 2003-04 season, tallying two points (1+1) and 78 penalty minutes.

            In 21 playoff games that same season, he recorded three points (1+2) and 61 penalty minutes while helping the Lightning win its first Stanley Cup Championship in team history.

            The 6-4, 221-pound Roy has played in 310 career games in the National Hockey League for the Lightning and Ottawa Senators, recording 52 points (25+27) and 734 penalty minutes. He set career highs in goals (10) and points (17) during the 2002-03 season while playing for Tampa Bay.

            Roy was drafted by Boston in the fifth round (151st overall) of the 1994 NHL Entry Draft.


            Link

            Comment

            • ALinChainz
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jan 2004
              • 12080

              Re: Scott Niedermayer

              Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
              Just signed with Anaheim.
              Joins his brother ... right?

              Think so ...

              Comment

              • ALinChainz
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jan 2004
                • 12080

                Bruins sign center Zhamnov

                August 4, 2005
                BOSTON (AP) -- The Bruins agreed with center Alexei Zhamnov on a three-year contract on Thursday, one day after signing defenseman Brian Leetch.

                Zhamnov has 248 goals, 461 assists and 638 penalty minutes in 12 NHL seasons. He has scored 20 or more goals in nine seasons and a season-high 30 goals with Winnipeg in just 48 games in 1994-95.

                He was an All-Star in 2002 and has won three Olympic medals -- one of each kind -- for Russia.

                Zhamnov, 34, played four seasons of hockey in Russia before joining the NHL. He played four years with the Winnipeg Jets before he was traded to Chicago in a multiplayer deal for Jeremy Roenick.

                Zhamnov played more than seven seasons with the Blackhawks, scoring 20-or-more goals five times, before finishing the 2003-04 season with Philadelphia. He returned to Russia last year during the lockout.

                Comment

                • ALinChainz
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 12080

                  2005 Nhl Free Agent Signings

                  August 4, 2005

                  FREE AGENTS SIGNING TO PLAY WITH A NEW TEAM
                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                  PLAYER NEW TEAM PREV TEAM TERMS
                  ------ -------- --------- -----
                  Tony Amonte, rw Calgary Philadelphia undisclosed
                  Adrian Aucoin, d Chicago NY Islanders 4 years, $16 million
                  Bryan Berard, d Columbus Chicago 2 years, undisclosed
                  Patrice Brisebois, d Colorado Montreal 2 years, undisclosed
                  Mathieu Dandenault, d-rw Montreal Detroit 4 years, undisclosed
                  Pavol Demitra, c Los Angeles St. Louis 3 years, undisclosed
                  Aaron Downey, rw St. Louis Dallas 1 year, $450,000
                  Adam Foote, d Columbus Colorado 3 years, undisclosed
                  Peter Forsberg, c Philadelphia Colorado 2 years, undisclosed
                  Martin Gelinas, lw Florida Calgary 2 years, undisclosed
                  Sergei Gonchar, d Pittsburgh Boston multi-year, undisclosed
                  Derian Hatcher, d Philadelphia Detroit 4 years, undisclosed
                  Bobby Holik, c Atlanta NY Rangers undisclosed
                  Jason Labarbera, g Los Angeles NY Rangers 2 years, undisclosed
                  Brian Leetch, d Boston Toronto 1 year, $4 million
                  Marek Malik, d NY Rangers Vancouver undisclosed
                  Darren McCarty, rw Calgary Detroit undisclosed
                  Shawn McEachern, rw Boston Atlanta 2 years, undisclosed
                  Andrei Nazarov, lw Minnesota Phoenix undisclosed
                  Joe Nieuwendyk, c Florida Toronto 2 years, undisclosed
                  Mike Rathje, d Philadelphia San Jose 5 years, undisclosed
                  Gary Roberts, lw Florida Toronto 2 years, undisclosed
                  Martin Rucinsky, lw NY Rangers Vancouver undisclosed
                  Miroslav Satan, lw NY Islanders Buffalo 3 years, undisclosed
                  Dave Scatchard, c Boston NY Islanders 4 years, undisclosed
                  Jon Sim, lw Philadelphia Pittsburgh 1 year, $450,000
                  Martin Skoula, d Dallas Anaheim 2 years, undisclosed
                  Cory Stillman, c Carolina Tampa Bay 3 years, undisclosed
                  Martin Straka, c NY Rangers Los Angeles undisclosed
                  Chris Therien, d Philadelphia Dallas 1 year, $500,000
                  Pierre Turgeon, c Colorado Dallas 2 years, undisclosed
                  Peter Vandermeer, w Montreal Detroit 1 year, undisclosed
                  Trent Whitfield, c St. Louis Washington undisclosed
                  Alexei Zhitnik, d NY Islanders Buffalo 4 years, undisclosed


                  FREE AGENTS SIGNING TO PLAY WITH THEIR PREVIOUS TEAMS
                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~

                  PLAYER/POS TEAM TERMS
                  ---------- ---- -----
                  Francois Beauchemin, d Columbus 2 years, undisclosed
                  Brian Boucher, g Phoenix 1 year, $900,000
                  Francis Bouillon, d Montreal 1 year, $600,000
                  Marc Chouinard, c Minnesota 1 year, $650,000
                  Manny Fernandez, g Minnesota 1 year, undisclosed
                  Denis Hamel, lw Ottawa 2 years, undisclosed
                  Jarome Iginla, rw Calgary multi-year, undisclosed
                  Tom Kostopoulos, rw Los Angeles 2 years, undisclosed
                  Alexei Kovalev, rw Montreal 4 years, undisclosed
                  Joel Kwiatkowski, d Florida 2 years, undisclosed
                  Mike Modano, c Dallas 5 years, undisclosed
                  Glen Murray, rw Boston 4 years, undisclosed
                  Markus Naslund, lw Vancouver 3 years, undisclosed
                  Thomas Pock, d NY Rangers undisclosed
                  Patrick Traverse, d Dallas 1 year, undisclosed
                  Kevin Weekes, g NY Rangers undisclosed
                  Steve Yzerman, c Detroit 1 year, undisclosed


                  Comment

                  • Va Beach VH Fan
                    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 17913

                    Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
                    8/4/2005 12:17:17 PM

                    The Pittsburgh Penguins made another move in the free agent signing period, signing right wing Andre Roy.

                    Terms of the contract were not released.

                    Roy, 30, played in 33 games for the Tampa Bay Lightning during the 2003-04 season, tallying two points (1+1) and 78 penalty minutes.

                    In 21 playoff games that same season, he recorded three points (1+2) and 61 penalty minutes while helping the Lightning win its first Stanley Cup Championship in team history.

                    The 6-4, 221-pound Roy has played in 310 career games in the National Hockey League for the Lightning and Ottawa Senators, recording 52 points (25+27) and 734 penalty minutes. He set career highs in goals (10) and points (17) during the 2002-03 season while playing for Tampa Bay.

                    Roy was drafted by Boston in the fifth round (151st overall) of the 1994 NHL Entry Draft.


                    Link
                    Yeah, not especially excited about this one, especially if they go out and still get Domi...

                    I mean, how many enforcers to you need (they already have Vandenbusse)....

                    Latest Pens rumors....

                    Kariya is a strong possibility, and Selanne a little less strong....

                    As for the goalies, still looking like either Cujo or Burke....
                    Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                    "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                    "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

                    Comment

                    • Nickdfresh
                      SUPER MODERATOR

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49125

                      Re: Numminen

                      Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
                      Just signed with the Sabres.
                      I dunno what to make of TEPPO. He's a defenseman that plays like a forward...

                      Comment

                      • Va Beach VH Fan
                        ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 17913

                        Domi resigned with the Leafs, 2 years for 2.5 Mil.....
                        Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                        "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                        "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

                        Comment

                        • Full Bug
                          Crazy Ass Mofo
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2915

                          Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                          Domi resigned with the Leafs, 2 years for 2.5 Mil.....
                          Hooray! Playoffs here we come!
                          I cant put into words how disgusted I am with the Leafs these days....
                          Diamond Mafia Forever - 4. To restore fullbug to the prominent place in this board, after various serious attacks by hitch1969 have now damaged his reputation and now is reguarded as a "Retarded, Stoned, Canadian, Dog finger bangin' fuckup"

                          Comment

                          • Full Bug
                            Crazy Ass Mofo
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2915

                            Diamond Mafia Forever - 4. To restore fullbug to the prominent place in this board, after various serious attacks by hitch1969 have now damaged his reputation and now is reguarded as a "Retarded, Stoned, Canadian, Dog finger bangin' fuckup"

                            Comment

                            • guwapo_rocker

                              Originally posted by Full Bug
                              Hooray! Playoffs here we come!
                              I cant put into words how disgusted I am with the Leafs these days....
                              But Bug, who could we possibly have spent that money on other than Tie?

                              Holy fuck, what a mess!!!

                              Comment

                              • Va Beach VH Fan
                                ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 17913

                                You guys don't know how bad I feel for you big market fans...

                                [[ Chuckle, chuckle.... ]]

                                Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                                "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                                "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

                                Comment

                                Working...