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    I fucking missed the game...

    I'm out here in San Diego, where apparently they don't know how to spell hockey...

    And they're starting the Cup finals on Monday, which'll put every Canes home game on a weekday... Bastards....

    Oh well, hopefully I'll have a little free time on Saturday and take a drive up the coast and catch Phillies/Dodgers before I fly out on Sunday morning.... The Padres are, of course, in Pittsburgh this weekend....

    And just because of my shitty luck, I did check the Atomic Punks website, they were in fucking San Diego LAST WEEK, and they're in Vegas this week....
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    hahahahaha...

    so Va...if I get tickets...

    you can't go if it's on a weeknight?

    There's a possibility...if it goes past game 4...as the Weavers are leaving for Hilton Head the day before game 5...

    I called them today to thank them for the tickets that I've gotten...and let them know that I'll tutor for them for free...forever...

    and they let me know to be ready to roll...

    but they may push it off a day...

    but I think...

    game 7 is ours if it goes there...

    rumor has it that the standing room tickets were $280 bucks...

    I just can't spend that much money for ANYTHING...unless there's a blowjob at the end of it by a hot chick...
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    OK, now that I see the official schedule, let me clarify that....

    Game 7 is on Monday, the 19th....

    My boy's last day of school is the 16th, so we should be clear for Game 7.....

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    Brind'amour can be signed for a club option at 5.5 million for next year.

    I think that is too rich considering who they have to resign.

    Could he be headed back home to BC to play for the Canucks?

    We need guys like that...character guys to show these swedes the way.

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    Brind'Amour isn't going anywhere...

    you never know though...

    my belief is that they'll keep the character guys...unload some others...and restock with youth...

    Is Vancouver planning on signing him to a 5 1/2 million dollar deal? They can afford that? You'll see him either sign that deal...or defer it...

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    Brind'Amour isn't going anywhere...

    you never know though...

    my belief is that they'll keep the character guys...unload some others...and restock with youth...

    Is Vancouver planning on signing him to a 5 1/2 million dollar deal? They can afford that? You'll see him either sign that deal...or defer it...
    Did you see the article (I think it was ESPN.com, but not sure) that said, even though it's very unlikely, that Carolina might consider trading up to get Jordan Staal (and trade away future defense-stud Jack Johnson)? Wonder what that could do to the financial aspect of getting back the most for their investment (as far as resigning players necessary to be competitive for the Cup again). I can't imagine it would do too much, but it would be an interesting move. (For my Pens as well, because we hold the 2nd overall pick this year and I can't see Staal lasting beyond the 3rd pick...which I guess means it could be intersting for the 'Hawks too.)

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    I haven't seen that article...but the speculations is high...

    many think Jordan is better than Eric...and it would be intriguing for the Canes to do it...

    but as a Pens fan myself...I'd pretty selfishly like to see them get Jordan...and then entice Eric to Pittsburgh down the line...

    I don't think that you'll see the Canes making a crazy move like that...

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    This is the article I think you were talking about...and it is intriguing...since the Pens and Canes have a good working relationship...

    Ed Hradek from ESPN: The Magazine

    Just a thought ...


    If the Blues decide to take American-born defender Erik Johnson with the first overall pick in the upcoming draft, I wonder if the Hurricanes would call the Penguins about the No. 2 selection. They could offer top defensive prospect Jack Johnson, the third overall pick in 2005 draft, in exchange for the second choice.


    Now, you might ask, why would the Canes deal Johnson, who just completed his first year at Michigan, for the No. 2 pick?


    Well, they might be interested in taking another member of the Staal family.


    Jordan Staal, who starred for the OHL champion Peterborough Petes, is another big and talented young pivot. Clearly, the Hurricanes are thrilled with Eric Staal, who already ranks among the top players in the NHL. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that they'd like to grab his not-so-little (6-foot-4, 215 pounds) brother, who's among the top prospects in this year's draft.


    On the other side of the deal, new Penguins GM Ray Shero might be interested in acquiring Johnson, a charismatic and edgy player who projects as a top two defenseman.


    Jack Johnson is also a close friend of Sidney Crosby. The two teenagers forged a bond when they skated (and played baseball) together at Shattuck-St. Mary's in Minnesota.


    Such a deal probably won't happen, but there are reasons for both clubs to think about it.
    It's fun to speculate about this stuff...

    we shall see though...

    it wouldn't be a bad move for both clubs...

    I like guys like Johnson...who hit like a hammer...and throw it all out there...

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    That is indeed the article!

    And tell me, as much as it'd be cool to have Jordan Staal (and the future hope of luring Eric there), how much could the Pens use someone like Johnson on their D? Not that they have a ton of offensive weapons, but building around Crosby and Malkin next season, if guys improve (or even return close to their best form), they could have a servicable to quarter-potent offence. If Gonchar plays the entire season like he finished last year, with a stud like Johnson, they'd have a good core to build around.

    And here's to hoping for a good draft and better free-agent spending this year. (Last year looked good before the season, but, ultimately was a bust.)

    Let's go Pens, let's go Pens!

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    and don't forget you'd get the Canes 3rd pick as well...

    the problem I have with Jordan...and I do hear he's pretty good...

    is that how many times has a younger brother (IE Gretzky and Lindros) not lived up to the hype?

    The Pens looked good...but how were we to know that the young, speed/skill teams...mixed with vet presence (as opposed to dominated by the vets) were going to win out...

    next year will be interesting...

    no surprises...so I think we'll see some of the old time great teams coming back...

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    Yo Poj., When the Barons were here for like 2 years in like 1979, Did you go to any of the games or anything? Was the attendence Bad? and Do you think will ever get a pro again?
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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
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    Is Vancouver planning on signing him to a 5 1/2 million dollar deal? They can afford that? You'll see him either sign that deal...or defer it... [/B]
    No, I don't think Rob can be signed for 5.5, unless he wins this Final by himself.

    It would take a desire on Rob's part to want to come home and win a Cup.

    I have been doing some simple math and no way Rob stays in Carolina. They have too many young players to sign.

    Vancouver could only afford half of 5.5 at best, given their cap situation, but you never know if Bert is unloaded, Cloutier, and they lose Jovo, all hell could break loose here.

    I know one thing, GM Nonis is on the final year of a two year contract and he is going to make his mark now and be successful now. The 'Nucks need grit and leadership and more Canadians .

    Some Canadian players don't want to come home because of all of their buddies asking for favors constantly. I am hoping Rob wants to become a legend in his home town more than anything else.
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    No dude...I didn't go to any games...

    to young...and not a hockey fan then...

    no...I don't think hockey will ever be in Cleveland again at the NHL level...

    unless the team in Columbus goes bye bye...

    Ohio can't support 2 teams...

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    No dude...I didn't go to any games...

    to young...and not a hockey fan then...

    no...I don't think hockey will ever be in Cleveland again at the NHL level...

    unless the team in Columbus goes bye bye...

    Ohio can't support 2 teams...
    Columbus needs to move up here, Fuck, do they even know they have a team in coumbus?

    If there was a team could you imagine the rivalry with Pittsburgh and Detroit.

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    I just don't think a team could be sustained in Cleveland...

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    I just don't think a team could be sustained in Cleveland...
    I don't either. I just don't see NE Ohio as a hockey market. I've seen so many things negatively happen, hockey-related, over the years in this area. That said, we just got a Central Hockey League team here in Youngstown last year. They didn't draw horribly, but I'd love to see them get a few more fans this year. I just don't see an NHL team drawing enough to make it worthwhile to stay in Cleveland. (I mean, fans have already dissed the Tribe even though they were in the Series 9 years ago and were a whisker or two away from sneaking in to the playoffs last year.) Plus, this is definitely football country.

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    Just so you know Flamma...

    Brind'Amour is scheduled to make 3.99 million next year...and his option year isn't until the year after...

    Carolina currently has less than 20 million dollars wrapped up in contracts as we speak...which will give them 20 million dollars to play with for free agents...and unsigned players...

    They won't have any issues keeping anyone...and not only that...adding...

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    I don't know why I thought Rob was entering his option...wishful thinking...

    Staal needs to be signed though doesn't he?

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    gotta give credit for Edmonton for NOT trapping. They tried to go up by three and they failed. They deserve props for trying to win the right way.

    Roloson...fuck!

    That is tough to swallow.

    I say go with their other backup...the Swede. Then you always have Conklin to return to make amends in game 4 or so.

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    Okay...Hockey's free agent structure is fucking screwy...so let me explain a bit...

    Right now...here's how the unrestricted free agents work. You are a slave to your team until:

    Unrestricted free agents will get younger. The minimum age at which a player can shop himself on the open market will drop through the first four years of the agreement:
    - In 2005, 31 years old.
    - In 2006, 29 years old or eight years of NHL service.
    - In 2007, 28 years old or seven years of NHL service.
    - In 2008, 27 years old or seven years in the NHL. The 2008 benchmark remains in place for the life of the agreement.
    Under the old system, players did not qualify for the open market until the age of 31.

    So Staal won't be unrestricted until he's 27...so yeah...he's not technically signed...but he's not going anywhere either....

    There are different levels of free agents...and Staal is the "lowest" level...

    Carolina's best move would be to sign him to the highest market value...until a year or 2 before he turns 27...then offer him a long term deal...

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    Roloson out for the series...

    you never know when a goalie gets hot...

    but you gotta think that Edmonton is in a whole heap of trouble...

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    I gotta tell you...that was a game and a half yesterday...

    I'll post more on my good fortune later...

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    Roloson out for the series...

    you never know when a goalie gets hot...

    but you gotta think that Edmonton is in a whole heap of trouble...
    You have that right, if the Oilers can still pull this off they deserve any praise they will get....Cant see it though....
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    In the same respect...

    Carolina scored 3 goals on Roloson in the 3rd...

    so please make sure that the credit doesn't stop for the Canes because Roloson went out...

    granted...it wasn't helpful...but the Canes had gotten to him before he got hurt...

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    if every hockey game was like that, wow. i know i'd watch it more than just the playoffs/finals...

    great fucking game, sucks about roloson though...
    Don't FUCK With Greatness...

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    Funny thing is though Damaco...is that there have been a boatload of games like that in these playoffs...

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    I have a sneaking suspicion that Roloson will be back for game 4.

    Just a look that MacTavish had...I can read people pretty well, and I think he was lying.

    A liitle loose miniscus never hurt anyone permanently, and I bet that is what he has.

    Just a little pain is all. Then again, you never know with a knee.

    Still, I have a felling about this

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    Funny thing is though Damaco...is that there have been a boatload of games like that in these playoffs...
    working in a sports pub i have seen these games, but this one i actually had time to sit down and watch...

    made me realize that i had missed a shit load of good hockey in the past few weeks...

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    This year in particular...these are the rules that would have made Lemieux perhaps the unquestioned best player of all time...lmfao...

    it's been an exciting year...

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    Originally posted by Full Bug
    You have that right, if the Oilers can still pull this off they deserve any praise they will get....Cant see it though....
    C'mon Bug, this is Edmonton... We'll fucking do it! (Ya gotta believe)

    Welcome to Oil Country, baby!
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    Carolina's too good...

    no problem with you believing though...

    and if they win...as Bug said...many...many props...

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    .these are the rules that would have made Lemieux perhaps the unquestioned best player of all time...lmfao..
    Seriously! I mean, Wayne was blessed with immense talent, so, not to take anything away from him, but Lemieux had his sensibilities AND that size! Had Mario had the teammates w/experience and talent, fewer medical problems, and the lack of clutching and grabbing from his initial stride on the ice, who knows what would have happened?

    Ah, what might have been? Then again, we can't really be too unhappy with what we got. LOL

    Seriously, the last 2 playoff years are the best 2 years I can remember in ages!

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    Because MacTavish only spoke to generalities regarding Roloson's knee, and was so quick to write him off reeks of the Phoenix rising from the ashes...

    Notice how he has trouble keeping eye contact during the interviews.

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    Now I am sure Roloson is coming back..."knee sprain"

    Think about it.

    If MacTavish says "It's a lower body injury and day-to-day"

    it's a distraction for his team every single game and puts added pressure on his young and inexperienced goalies.

    This way, publically, there is no speculation and they can concentrate on the task at hand.

    Really, it was the only thing to do, even though I knew that to say he was "done for the series" and "hurt his knee" was a really quick assessment in these times.

    Usually, every injury is a well kept secret, particularly in a playoff series.

    Roloson back for game 5 at the latest.

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    I'll post more on my good fortune later...
    Well ?????

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    lmfao...I went to the Arena to watch the game on the big screens outside...

    cell rings...and there's an available ticket...

    you have to realize that I called everyone I knew that would have tickets...praying that someone had a vacation...got nothing...but gave them my number...

    decided to goto the arena...and watch the game there...just in case...I didn't want to be 45 minutes away...and find out 5 minutes before the game...

    I bought all the beer...

    probably cost as much as the ticket...

    I have to tell you...that crowd during the third period was as good as it gets...

    and when Brind'Amour punched that goal in...

    the roof literally flew off that building...

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    I won't be able to go tomorrow...I'm co-teaching a summer course at State that starts tomorrow...

    6-8:30...

    I'm such a dumbass...

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    Pojo...you were THERE!!!!

    I have to say, that was one of the most entertaining games in the Finals I can remember.

    I like the logic behind your "gamble". Worst case, you still hear the crowd and be a part of it.

    Brind'amour isn't going anywhere; Damn!

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    Well...the great thing about it was I literally spent the day calling everyone I knew that I thought had tickets...and was up front...

    "I'm calling you about tickets...and will pay you whatever..."

    figuring most of these people would say...I wouldn't make you pay...

    but everyone said they didn't have tickets...but would let me know...

    I called the ticket office...and they said they were going to have big screens out there...along with everything else they do...pretty big shindig...bands...party...it was great...

    so I took off...just to see what would happen...not even thinking about tickets...maybe seeing what was out there for scalpers...

    well...$$$$$$...I talked to a couple of guys...and they were talking $300 for tickets...so I said fuck it...

    cell literally rings at 7:30...while my friend Mark was on the way to the game...HE got tickets through a friend who was stuck in West Virginia white water rafting...so Mark and his friend rolled over to his apartment, the fiance gave him 3 tickets...and he called me last second hoping I could Make IT to the game by face off...

    I was like...I'M ALREADY HERE!!!!

    I saw 2 games in '02...when my connection was the president of the Hurricanes...lmfao...

    but this was by far the best game...

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    Lucky bastard....

    Let's just hope it goes 7 games.....

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