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    If the reasons for the Pronger's wanting to be moved is anything but they need to be near certain medical services, etc., then this is bullshit.

    What, need to be in a warmer place?

    Should have thought of that before you were signed and people committed advertising dollars, season tickets, etc.

    I really hope it is for a legit reason, not because some bitch wants more pedicure locations...
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    12 americans selected in the first round.

    Most impressive.

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    Look...I've got no problems with people wanting to live in other places...it happens all the time in regular life...

    of course...for 6 1/2 million dollars a year...I'd work at the bottom of the ocean...

    perhaps someone is ill in her family...mom...dad...bro or sis...

    whatever...

    Pronger SHOULD consider his family before his fucking job...and if Edmonton doesn't want to fucking trade him...

    then don't...
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    Yeah...to bad all those Americans can't combine to make a fucking World Cup team that's worth a damn...

    perhaps it's coming though...

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    Canes sign Laviolette to a 5 year deal...and sign his assistants as well...

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    Well...it's "official"...sort of.

    Looks like the Oilers have leaked the fact that the reason Pronger and family want out of Edmonton is that Chris's wife doesn't like the city.

    Bitch.

    I can't blame them for wanting the truth out there.

    For future free agents, they need to know that there isn't some hidden issue that makes that team or that city less desireable.

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    Then again, a team can move you on a whim.

    At least it's not "There's no food...I can't find a Taco Bell or a Sizzler" a la NBA ers

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    Well, I look at it this way....

    Edmonton is going to get about 3 NHL-ready players....

    That's a pretty good trade off....
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    The Leafs trade a prospect for Raycroft whoo hooo Stanley Cup!!!
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    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
    Well, I look at it this way....

    Edmonton is going to get about 3 NHL-ready players....

    That's a pretty good trade off....

    I still say Pronger was the Conn Smythe, taking nothing away from a great performance from Ward.

    It sucks and they will be lucky to get back equal value.

    I say wait , wait, wait until the trading deadline.

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    Cuban, Marino Want To Buy Penguins

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    PITTSBURGH (AP) - Mark Cuban is known for baiting NBA officials, and Dan Marino is the most prolific passer in NFL history. But the Pittsburgh natives now want to expand into a different sport in their hometown - hockey.

    The two have joined with a New York City financier in trying to buy the NHL's Penguins from Hall of Famer Mario Lemieux's group, which is selling the two-time Stanley Cup champions even as the team seeks a new arena deal.

    The group of prospective Penguins owners is headed by Andrew Murstein, the president of Medallion Financial Corp., a company that finances New York City taxicab medallions and originates consumer loans for recreational vehicles. Also included are principals in Pittsburgh-based Walnut Capital, a real estate management and development company.

    Walnut Capital CEO Gregg Perelman recently teamed with Cuban to buy a nine-story downtown Pittsburgh office building. Cuban, who grew up in suburban Pittsburgh, is the billionaire Dallas Mavericks owner whose holdings include a movie production firm and high-definition TV channel.

    Adding Cuban and Marino is expected to strengthen the group's estimated $150 million US bid not only financially but perception-wise. Neither Cuban nor Marino have any interest in moving the Penguins from Pittsburgh - Cuban has made it a condition of his participation - even though the team has yet to land a deal to build an arena to replace 45-year-old Mellon Arena.



    Murstein was in Dallas on Tuesday, presumably to meet with Cuban about his involvement in the group. In the past, Murstein expressed interest in buying two NHL franchises, the Blues and Ducks, and the Kansas City Wizards of Major League Soccer.

    Todd Reidbord, Walnut Capital's president, said recently his group was the only one interested in buying the Penguins that has fully committed to staying in Pittsburgh. At least four other groups have expressed interest in the team, which is expected to be sold before the start of the NHL season in October.

    Lemieux's ownership group, which also includes California businessman Ron Burkle, bought the team in federal bankruptcy court in 1999 - partly to protect the nearly $30 million in deferred money owed Lemieux on his contract. Lemieux's group has since paid back all money owed by the club before its bankruptcy filing, a rarity during such procedures.

    The uncertainty over the Penguins' arena status has clouded their future in Pittsburgh. Lemieux's group has partnered with Isle of Capri Casinos, which has agreed to build a $290 million arena if it wins the solitary license that will be awarded for a slot machine casino in the city.

    However, Isle of Capri is not seen as the favourite, and two other groups seeking the slots license - Harrah's and Majestic Star Casino - have not pledged full arena funding.

    Gov. Ed Rendell has asked those two bidders to give $7.5 million a year toward an arena, with the Penguins contributing $8.5 million from the start and an additional $4 million per year, including $1.1 million in naming rights. The Penguins have declined to sign off on the deal, as the Isle of Capri bid would not require the team to make a financial contribution toward replacing the NHL's oldest arena.

    Murstein revealed the addition of Cuban and Marino in his group in an interview Tuesday with Pittsburgh radio station WEAE, an ESPN affiliate. Cuban did not immediately respond to messages from The Associated Press, but confirmed his involvement in an e-mail to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

    Cuban was interested in buying into Lemieux's group in 1999, but declined to accept a role that would not include input in the team's day-to-day operation. Marino, the former University of Pittsburgh and Miami Dolphins star quarterback, expressed interest in buying into the Pittsburgh Pirates in the mid 1990s but never did so. Cuban also is interested in buying the Pirates at some point, but the current ownership has given no sign of wanting to sell.

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    Luongo signs 4 Year Deal With Canucks

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    Goaltender Roberto Luongo finally has the long-term deal he's always wanted, signing a four-year, $27 million US contract with the Vancouver Canucks.

    According to CKNW Radio in Vancouver, the new deal will pay Luongo $6 million US in the first year, $6.5 million US in the second year, $7 million US in the third year, and $7.5 million US in the final year. The contract also contains a no-trade clause for the final three years.

    "We are pleased to have agreed to a long-term deal with Roberto today," Vancouver GM Dave Nonis said in a release.

    "Roberto has proven himself to be an elite goaltender. His international experience, Vezina Trophy nomination and ability to consistently play at the highest level are tremendous assets that we believe will make the Vancouver Canucks competitive each and every night."


    The Canucks qualified Luongo at $3.2 million US earlier this week, which gave the club his rights for the 2006-07 season, but Luongo's agent Gilles Lupien also met with his client in Montreal this week to discuss the prospects of a long term deal.

    His $6.75-million average salary matches Chicago's Nikolai Khabibulin for the highest-paid by any goaltender in the NHL.

    "It's up to me to deliver," Luongo said Thursday.

    "The Canucks have had a great team over the last few years. Unfortunately they had a few injuries last season and didn't make it but they're committed to winning. And that's really important for an organization. That's something that I really respect.

    "There's no doubt in my mind that once I get started, we're going to make a run for the Stanley Cup and that's why I'm coming there."

    Luongo, 27, played 75 games with the Florida Panthers in 2005-06, posting a record of 35-30-9 with a 2.97 GAA and a .914 save percentage. Over his five-year NHL career, Luongo has played a total of 341 games, with a record of 115-168-41, a 2.72 GAA and a .919 save percentage.

    He was also part of Canada's Olympic team in Turin and captured back-to-back gold medals when he starred in net for Team Canada at the 2003 and 2004 IIHF world championships.




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    The latest inside "news" on Pronger was that his wife hasn't been back to Edmonton since she left there around the Olympic break...

    Why, you ask????

    Apparently, he was cheating on her and she found out.

    She was from Edmonton, hence the "family issues"

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    Free agency started at noon today, and it's in FULL swing already....

    A few doozies already....

    Chara and Savard to the Bruins...

    Kubina and Gill to the Leafs....

    Jovanowski to the Coyotes...

    Grahame to the Canes....

    Nothing from the Pens yet, the bastards....

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    Canucks have Willy Mitchell from Minnesota.

    HARD -hitting D-man.

    Excellent.

    I wonder if Naslund is going to be moved on the quiet?

    He has no-trade.

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    Pronger to the Ducks...
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    Pronger and Neidermeyer on the same team?

    Holy shit.

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    It seems with the cap that guys are getting lucky...and by that I mean if there is a perceived need and you are available at the right time, you can get more than your market value.

    Guys who may have previously received their market value may find that teams have spent their cap and they may have to receive less to play on a decent team.

    Pronger's deal looks like a bargain now.

    I still say that the NHL should allow teams to go over the cap and have that team pay money to distribute to the lowest revenue generating teams.

    It sucks that a team can build a winner, and achieve some cohesion and player identity with the fans only to have that disappear when the team and player's success dictates higher pay and thus cap-incompatible.

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    Well...the NHL is still playing here...I think you can come to a point where you have a minimum and max that allows the big money teams to still spend...

    look at the Canes this year...they weren't going over 30 million...

    and they didn't...they win the cup...

    cap goes up 5 million to 44 million...

    and their new cap is 40 million...

    You are talking a soft cap Flamma...like the one in baseball...and it really doesn't work very well...

    I like the Hard Cap...it gives everyone a chance...

    sure...it allows certain players to bolt...

    but I think you'll see major players staying with their teams longer...because...like Eric Staal...when his contract gets up around 7-10 million dollars...he truthfully won't get more anywhere else...

    yeah...you can lose the heart of your team...

    but...if you're an owner...and you do your job...you should be able to find more heart...or younger players to fit the bill...

    IMO...this puts the pressure where it should be...the GM's and the coaches...

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    Guys...I'm going to close this thread soon...

    I'm not big on plopping ALL the hockey news in one thread...I like it much better with separate headlines...so shit is easier to find...

    not sure yet though...

    lmfao...since only 4 or so are posting in here...

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    Or maybe I'll leave it open for the off-season...

    not sure yet...

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    Okay...going to run down Carolina...then Pittsburgh so far this off season...Carolina first...only because of access...

    here's where Carolina started...

    CAROLINA GETS READY TO ANTE UP
    The Canes have 15 players on the payroll for the 2006-07 season at a total of $25,250,800.
    Canes GM Jim Rutherford said the team is willing to spend up to $40 million on next year's roster.

    The league salary cap is $44 million.

    SIGNED

    Rod Brind'Amour$4 million

    Justin Williams$3.5 million

    Oleg Tverdovsky$2.5 million

    Bret Hedican$2.432 million

    Frank Kaberle$2.2 million

    Niclas Wallin$1.725 million

    Cory Stillman$1.75 million

    Ray Whitney$1.5 million

    Josef Vasicek$1.3 million

    Andrew Ladd$984,200

    Anton Babchuk$900,600

    Kevyn Adams$725,000

    Cam Ward$684,000

    Craig Adams$600,000

    Andrew Hutchinson$450,000

    UNSIGNED

    u-Doug Weight$5.7 million

    u-Mark Recchi$2.28 million

    u-Aaron Ward$1.52 million

    r-Erik Cole$1.14 million

    u-Martin Gerber$1.06 million

    u-Glen Wesley$1 million

    r-Eric Staal$942,400

    u-Matt Cullen$668,800

    r-Mike Commodore$450,000

    r-Chad LaRose$450,000


    okay...so that's where they started...

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    Now looking at the unsigned...

    UNSIGNED

    u-Mark Recchi$2.28 million

    r-Erik Cole$1.14 million

    u-Glen Wesley$1 million

    r-Eric Staal$942,400

    r-Mike Commodore$450,000

    r-Chad LaRose$450,000

    Weight, Ward, Gerber and Cullen are gone...

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    I do also want to mention that they signed Hutchinson, Kaberle, Williams (huge deal) and Wallin immediately...

    all under 30...and now all seasoned Cup vets...minus perhap Hutchinson...

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    Craig Adams as well...

    They then signed Staal to a 3 year 13.5 million dollar deal...

    4 million next season...4.5 million...and 5 million the last...

    They then signed Chad LaRose...Matt White and Vonnie's boy to a 2 year deal...450,000 the first year...and 500,000 his second year...

    They signed Jon Grahame from Tampa Bay to back up Cam Ward...solid guy...and backup...who started in Tampa last year...at 1.4 million per year for 2...

    and they resigned Mike Commodore for a 2 year deal as well...at 1.2 and then 1.3 million...

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    I think it may perk some people's interest to have seperate threads, but on the other hand it may get congested.

    My take? I say one thread. But, then when a controversy or timely event occurs, make a thread.

    I find it confusing when VA posts hockey in his Pittsburgh sports thread. Are you trying to talk to people from your area?

    No offense, but isn't that a tad exclusionary?

    Now I am sounding like Savicki, LOL

    Maybe I should start a Vancouver sports thread, where I can pine for an NBA team with relative comfort? Nah.

    I would like hockey to be in a thread, rather in Pittsburgh, Detroit, etc.

    Any Bertuzzi incidents or 80-goal seasons deserve a thread or two.

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    Anson Carter and the Canucks are 1 million apart.

    I bet he ends up in LA, maybe TO.

    Carter has no hands, even though he got 32 goals last year.

    I think the Sedins are that good.

    They can make a star out of anyone.

    With the setups he had, Carter should have had 50 goals.

    I couldn't believe the number of times he couldn't direct the puck with any control or even make one move.

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    Well...if I'm a new poster...and I want to talk about...I don't know...Mario Lemieux retiring...or...the Stanley Cup...

    or...a big trade...

    what's easier...

    scrolling through 25-100 pages?

    or...type...Mario Lemieux retires...

    Having a mammoth NHL thread may seem clean...

    but in the long run...it may not be so...

    I'm not talking about the local threads...

    if Va posts something about the Pens in there...that's fine...and I don't mind it being double posted out there...

    I'm not sure why the area threads popped up...

    I preferred it to be a Steeler thread...

    but I think someone turned the Detroit thread into an all team sorta thread...which led to a few other things...

    It would be like going into the Front Line and having a liberal thread...a conservative thread...and that's it...

    I like topics showing themselves...major topics...minor topics...

    I get frustrated at another site...because the NHL or NFL topics will be a conversation about say...the Minnesota Vikings offseason moves...between a couple of people...and you go in and post about Ricky Williams...wanting some banter...and 3 pages later...they are still rambling on and on about how their sister got three wayed by a cornerback...

    it happens a bit to a point here in our generic threads as well...

    but like I said...

    I'm not big on that...

    I have no idea with a playoff thread...

    but would prefer series threads...

    etc....

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    I see your point Poj, doesn't matter to me, close it if you want to...

    As for me posting hockey in the Pittsburgh thread, it's 'cause I don't want no damn Canucks reading it.....

    I like the city-related threads though, it centralizes stories....

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    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
    I see your point Poj, doesn't matter to me, close it if you want to...

    As for me posting hockey in the Pittsburgh thread, it's 'cause I don't want no damn Canucks reading it.....

    I like the city-related threads though, it centralizes stories....
    VA, I want to read your posts.

    That is why I want you posting in hockey thread.

    Centralizes stories?

    For who? Not me or anyone else I know of on this board.

    Posting in both works for me.

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    Caesar is right.

    I was only thinking about my own interests

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    Well, a lot of times I'd think that the articles in there would've been only interesting to fans of those teams, but I see your point....

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    Perhaps we just need a new forum...just for hockey...

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    Trust me VA, if you have something to say about the Penguins, Crosby or not, 10 million Canadians want to know about it!

    Shit, if we start posting more hockey, membership could boost ten-fold and legitimate membership at that

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    Hurricanes re-sign LW Cole to three-year contract
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    RALEIGH, North Carolina (Ticker) - The Carolina Hurricanes have rewarded Erik Cole for helping lead them to their first Stanley Cup.

    The Hurricanes on Wednesday re-signed the left wing to a three-year contract worth $4 million per season.

    Despite missing the final 22 games of the regular season with a fractured vertebra in his neck, the 27-year-old Cole set career highs in goals (30), assists (29) and points (59).

    The 6-2, 200-pound Cole returned from the injury in Game Six of the Stanley Cup Finals against the Edmonton Oilers and skated in the Hurricanes' 3-1 triumph in Game Seven.

    "Erik has developed into a dominant power forward," Hurricanes president and general manager Jim Rutherford said. "His size, speed and skill make him the ideal player for today's NHL, and he is one of the cornerstones of our team going forward."

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    Rod Brind'Amour$4 million

    Eric Staal $4 million

    Justin Williams$3.5 million

    Oleg Tverdovsky$2.5 million

    Bret Hedican$2.432 million

    Frank Kaberle$2.2 million

    Niclas Wallin$1.725 million

    Cory Stillman$1.75 million

    Ray Whitney$1.5 million

    John Graham $1.5 million

    Josef Vasicek$1.3 million

    Mike Commodore $1.2 million


    Andrew Ladd$984,200

    Anton Babchuk$900,600

    Kevyn Adams$725,000

    Cam Ward$684,000

    Craig Adams$600,000

    Andrew Hutchinson$450,000

    Chad LaRose $450,000

    Unsigned

    Mark Recchi

    Glen Wesley...

    That puts the Canes current Roster at about 32 million...give or take...

    Wesley is probably going to retire...

    and they COULD sign Recchi if they wanted too...

    plenty under their 40 million dollar cap...

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    Originally posted by DavidFlamma
    Trust me VA, if you have something to say about the Penguins, Crosby or not, 10 million Canadians want to know about it!

    Shit, if we start posting more hockey, membership could boost ten-fold and legitimate membership at that
    Yeah, I'm sure....

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    c'mon Va...THE WORLD WANTS TO KNOW!!!

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    Nothing much for me to say....

    Pens have been extremely quiet so far....

    Couple of Western Conference bubbas...

    Got Marc Eaton, D-man from Nashville, very underrated from what I hear....

    And Jarkko Ruutu, winger/agitator from the Canucks....

    I'm sure Flamma can give a great writeup on him...

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