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    A Nice Overview of the Rules:

    With new rules, the future is wide open
    By BUCKY GLEASON
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    7/23/2005

    For all the problems the National Hockey League had with its players' association, the biggest complaint from fans in recent years was that hockey had less appeal than a traffic jam. The "Fastest Game on Earth" was reduced to a crawl, and customers quickly found other avenues in which they could spend their money.

    The NHL officially signed off on a new collective bargaining agreement Friday, and with the deal came several radical rules changes designed to produce more scoring chances and attract a dwindling fan base. Hockey is undergoing a much-needed face-lift after salaries and ticket prices skyrocketed and scoring plunged over the previous 10 seasons.

    New rules alone will likely spark interest. Virtually every change was designed to create more room on the ice, which should produce more goals. Time will tell whether the modifications have their desired effect, but skill players who had been stifled in a congested neutral zone might finally participate in a league intent on showcasing their talent.

    The new rules include:

    • No red line. The line will still be visible and used for icing purposes, but two-line passes will be allowed in hopes of creating more room on the ice with long passes increasing the number of breakaways and odd-man rushes.

    • Shootouts. Every game will have a winner and loser. The league hopes to decide tie games with four-on-four in overtime. If the two teams are still deadlocked, a shootout with three players from each team will be used to determine a winner.

    • Tag-up offsides. Players initially offside will be allowed to skate back past the blue line and return to the attacking zone without a whistle. It should create more flow and fewer stoppages in play.

    • Pushing the nets back and limiting where goalies can play the puck. The NHL initially tried creating space between the net and the boards because goalies became so adept at playing the puck. Now goalies can only play the puck in a trapezoid-shaped area behind the net. Moving the nets 2 feet back to 11 feet from the boards gives forwards more room to operate in front of the net.

    • Smaller goalie equipment. Goaltenders' padding gradually became bigger, allowing them to cover more of the net. Pads will be reduced from 12 inches wide to 11 inches. Blockers, catchers and chest protectors will be downsized. Goalies will no longer look like the Michelin Man.

    NHL Director of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell and Detroit Red Wings forward Brendan Shanahan, a 17-year veteran, played major roles in revamping the rulebook. Shanahan led a committee of players, general managers, coaches and broadcasters who were intent on trying to fix the game on the ice while Bettman and NHLPA chief Bob Goodenow wrestled over the CBA.

    "The one thing I consistently heard (from fans) was, "We want a better product on the ice. That's the best way you can pay us back,' " Shanahan said. "I can assure you, along with the game and the way it's going to be played, we're going to reward players with lots of skill."

    Campbell emphasized that there would be yet another crackdown on obstruction, which many believe has ruined hockey. Referees for years have been trying to limit teams from constant clutching and grabbing. Campbell promised a clear definition of obstruction and stringent enforcement this season.

    "It's the biggest piece of the puzzle if they want to make the game more exciting," Sabres center Daniel Briere said. "We've heard it before. We've tried it before, and it didn't last. We're going to need a full commitment from everybody - every referee, every player, every coach, managers, everybody."

    Linesmen will be given more discretion when making icing calls in an effort to keep the game moving. There was discussion about implementing no-touch icing, but the league didn't want to dissuade players from making the two-line passes that are now allowed. If anything, the NHL is encouraging home-run passes.

    "The feeling is (new rules) will alleviate some of the pressure that's been brought on the game," Sabres General Manager Darcy Regier said. "The defensive aspects won't be removed, but the intent is it will create more room, more opportunity for the skill players to exhibit their skill. Hopefully, that will result in more goals."

    Campbell said referees, many of whom swallow their whistles in the closing minutes of tight games, will be instructed to call the game the same way in the third period as they did in the first. Also, goalies who freeze the puck unnecessarily and players who shoot the puck over the glass from the defending zone will be penalized for delay of game.

    Implementing shootouts and removing the red line for the purpose of two-line passes are considered the two biggest changes. Teams will receive two points for a win and one point for a shootout loss or overtime loss.

    "The rules changes will make the game more fun," Sabres owner Tom Golisano said. "I'm for more fun."

    Bettman also announced Friday that more games will be played within the division and conference in hopes of building intense rivalries. The NHL is desperately trying to repair its relationship with fans after labor strife wiped out an entire season. The league was investigating various ways to bring fans closer to the game. Fans wanted more excitement for their money.

    Everybody wanted more goals. Well, everybody but the goalies, of course.

    The Edmonton Oilers averaged 5.6 goals per game during the 1983-84 season and scored more than 400 goals in five consecutive seasons. The NHL's highest-scoring team in 2003-04 was Ottawa, which scored 262 goals. By comparison, the Red Wings were the lowest-scoring team in 1985-86 with 266 goals.

    In 1992-93, Gary Bettman's first season as NHL commissioner, teams combined for 7.24 goals per game. In 2003-04, teams averaged just more than 5.14 goals per game, the fewest in nearly 50 years. Meanwhile, the average salary skyrocketed from $467,000 to $1.8 million, and ticket prices soared 81 percent over the same period.

    Fans were paying - and yawning - more than ever.

    The changes mostly affect the two major contributors to the decrease in scoring. The biggest was teams became more adept at playing defense. The neutral-zone trap evolved into an efficient style for many teams, but it also suffocated hockey. There was a greater emphasis on good coaching rather than good players.

    "The only way you could level the playing field was to make your team better defensively," Regier said. "The (financial) gaps between teams have been minimized, and the ice has been opened up. Those two things will have a very positive effect."

    Another contributing factor was goaltenders. They grew taller, wider and more athletic over the past decade or more. Dominik Hasek, for example, wore big shoulder pads and had a great glove hand, but he also had enough size and agility to simultaneously cover both posts. He alone kept scoring at a minimum.

    And it wasn't just Hasek.

    Roberto Luongo was a big guy who wore big pads. Garth Snow extended his career with oversized equipment. The average NHL goalie was 5-foot-10 and 180 pounds in 1983-84. Twenty years later, he was 6-foot and 190 pounds. Obviously, the league can't limit the size of the goalie, but it can limit the size of his equipment.

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    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
    I've always loved the Canadians passion for hockey, but sometimes they think the hockey world revolves around them...

    If that was the case, there'd be more than 6 Canadian teams in the NHL....
    Actually, its Torontions (Leaf fans) who think the hockey world revolves around them, not other Canadians.

    Bob Mackenzie works for TSN (Supposedly 'Canada's Sports Network', which is more like the Toronto Sports Network).
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    That's a good point Vincenzo....

    Hockey-crazy city though, no doubt...

    Funny during trading deadline time, reading the Canadian websites...

    Seems like the Leafs may be trading for EVERY player available...
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    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan

    Seems like the Leafs may be trading for EVERY player available...
    And then they do nothing!!
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    "Teams will receive two points for a win and one point for a shootout loss or overtime loss"

    You STILL get a point for LOSING??????

    What a fucking JOKE.

    Yeah, I will watch when it comes back, but if the goddam refs dont call interference and obstruction consistantly...it will still be an unwatchable game, IMO...
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    Originally posted by Dave's PA Rental

    You STILL get a point for LOSING??????
    What a fucking JOKE.
    Yeah, thats bullshit, I cant figure out why this issue hasnt been brought up more often....
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    Looks like Anaheim is taking offers for pick #2...

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp...98&hubName=nhl

    Ducks shopping the 2nd overall pick

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    7/26/2005 4:34:31 PM

    The Pittsburgh Penguins have no intention of trading the first overall pick in Saturday's NHL entry draft, but the finalist in the Sidney Crosby Sweepstakes is shopping the second overall pick, and shopping it hard.

    Anaheim general manager Brian Burke said he has no qualms about trading the No. 2 pick...for the right price, of course.

    "I've already gotten eight to 10 calls but I haven't heard anything so far that would cause us to move it, not even close," the Mighty Ducks' GM told TSN. "We will shop this pick. We have a lot of kids ready to step in for us -- Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, Joffrey Lupul and Ladislav Smid -- and if we can trade the (No. 2) pick outright for an established player who is a good fit for us, we will do it. And if we get offers to move down a few spots and we can get another (draft) pick, we can do that too. It's really wide open. We want to see what's out there."

    If the Ducks decide not to trade the pick for an established player, they are believed to be looking to make a choice from a group of five prospects that includes: Sudbury forward Benoit Pouliot, Owen Sound forward Bobby Ryan, Vancouver Giant forward Gilbert Brule and a pair of defencemen -- Jack Johnson of the U.S. U-18 program and Sudbury's Marc Staal.

    If the Ducks feel there's a good chance they could get one of those players at a draft position lower than No. 2, it's possible they'll trade down if they find a partner willing to pay some sort of premium to be guaranteed to get the next-best prospect after No. 1 pick Sidney Crosby.

    "Hey, I would be happy to trade up or down in this draft," Burke said with a laugh, knowing there's no chance the Penguins are prepared to move the No. 1 pick and the right to draft Crosby.

    With the Crosby coronation a foregone conclusion at the draft in Ottawa on Saturday, what the Ducks do with the No. 2 overall pick may well provide the most excitement of the day.

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    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/artic...726_185300_568

    Nolan goes under the knife

    As Sportsnet first reported last week Tuesday's surgery was required to correct complications that have plagued Owen Nolan's since he injured his knee in March of 2004.

    Sportsnet.ca -- -- Sportsnet has learned Toronto Maple Leafs, forward Owen Nolan had surgery Tuesday in Cleveland to further repair his injured knee.

    The surgery was deemed successful but Nolan may be out of the NHL for as long as six months.

    As Sportsnet first reported last week this surgery was required to correct complications that have plagued Nolan's rehab since he injured the knee in March of 2004.

    "Dr. Tony Miniaci, the Chief of Sports Medicine at the Cleveland Clinic, performed the surgery on the injury which directly related to the trauma sustained in March of 04 while playing with the Leafs," said Nolan's agent JP Barry.

    "Owen looks forward to getting back to rehab now that the problem interfering with his progress has been addressed," Barry added.

    "This rehabilitation could take as long as six months, but Owen looks forward to a return to the NHL when he's ready."

    As for an update on Nolan's buyout status, Barry says the issues have yet to be resolved.

    The NHL's buyout period expires on Friday.

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    Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
    And then they do nothing!!
    See, here's EXACTLY what I'm talking about... It's starting already !!!!

    http://www.spectorshockey.net/

    FORSBERG TO TORONTO?

    THE FAN 590: reports the Toronto Maple Leafs might pursue Peter Forsberg should he become an unrestricted free agent in August. Forsberg's agent, Don Baizley was recently seen in Toronto speaking with Leafs GM John Ferguson Jr, but he told "Leafs Lunch" that it was merely coincidental since Baizley is also the agent for Leafs prospect Alex Steen.

    Spector's Note; My thanks to "QuackerJackets" and regular contributor Dave Caldwell, who also noted that since tampering rules are in effect from now until the UFA market opens on August 1 Ferguson wouldn't state any interest in Forsberg at this time.

    AFTONBLADET: reports the Detroit News as claiming Colorado Avalanche forward Peter Forsberg is high on the wish list of the Toronto Maple Leafs, which would unite him with Mats Sundin, an apparent dream of many Swedish hockey fans.

    Spector's Note: My thanks to Magnus Persson. The Detroit News column doesn't claim the Leafs are interested in Forsberg, but merely lists him as one of several big name players named in unsubstantiated rumours as possibly heading to Toronto. For now the Leafs still have to figure out how much cap space they can free up and which free agents they'll re-sign before they go trolling in the UFA market.

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    Looks like Jagr is going to stay in the russian league...he will be the first of many to stay/change their league, in hopes of keeping the enormous incomes...
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    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
    See, here's EXACTLY what I'm talking about... It's starting already !!!!

    http://www.spectorshockey.net/

    FORSBERG TO TORONTO?

    THE FAN 590: reports the Toronto Maple Leafs might pursue Peter Forsberg should he become an unrestricted free agent in August. Forsberg's agent, Don Baizley was recently seen in Toronto speaking with Leafs GM John Ferguson Jr, but he told "Leafs Lunch" that it was merely coincidental since Baizley is also the agent for Leafs prospect Alex Steen.

    Spector's Note; My thanks to "QuackerJackets" and regular contributor Dave Caldwell, who also noted that since tampering rules are in effect from now until the UFA market opens on August 1 Ferguson wouldn't state any interest in Forsberg at this time.

    AFTONBLADET: reports the Detroit News as claiming Colorado Avalanche forward Peter Forsberg is high on the wish list of the Toronto Maple Leafs, which would unite him with Mats Sundin, an apparent dream of many Swedish hockey fans.

    Spector's Note: My thanks to Magnus Persson. The Detroit News column doesn't claim the Leafs are interested in Forsberg, but merely lists him as one of several big name players named in unsubstantiated rumours as possibly heading to Toronto. For now the Leafs still have to figure out how much cap space they can free up and which free agents they'll re-sign before they go trolling in the UFA market.
    They have to sign Aki Berg first

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    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
    See, here's EXACTLY what I'm talking about... It's starting already !!!!

    http://www.spectorshockey.net/

    FORSBERG TO TORONTO?

    THE FAN 590: reports the Toronto Maple Leafs might pursue Peter Forsberg should he become an unrestricted free agent in August. Forsberg's agent, Don Baizley was recently seen in Toronto speaking with Leafs GM John Ferguson Jr, but he told "Leafs Lunch" that it was merely coincidental since Baizley is also the agent for Leafs prospect Alex Steen.

    Spector's Note; My thanks to "QuackerJackets" and regular contributor Dave Caldwell, who also noted that since tampering rules are in effect from now until the UFA market opens on August 1 Ferguson wouldn't state any interest in Forsberg at this time.

    AFTONBLADET: reports the Detroit News as claiming Colorado Avalanche forward Peter Forsberg is high on the wish list of the Toronto Maple Leafs, which would unite him with Mats Sundin, an apparent dream of many Swedish hockey fans.

    Spector's Note: My thanks to Magnus Persson. The Detroit News column doesn't claim the Leafs are interested in Forsberg, but merely lists him as one of several big name players named in unsubstantiated rumours as possibly heading to Toronto. For now the Leafs still have to figure out how much cap space they can free up and which free agents they'll re-sign before they go trolling in the UFA market.
    Oh gimmie a break.

    The Toronto sports media will do anything to make their Leafs look interesting.

    Remember when there were rumours that Gretzky would be going to Toronto before he ended up signing with the Rangers in '96? Or how about the whole Eric Lindros thing?


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    Toronto is the center of the hockey universe....Deal with it....

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    *AHEM*

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    Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
    They have to sign Aki Berg first
    You're gonna lose Domi to the Pens, by the way....

    Looking pretty solid right now....

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    Originally posted by Golden AWe
    Looks like Jagr is going to stay in the russian league...he will be the first of many to stay/change their league, in hopes of keeping the enormous incomes...
    This has been completely denied...

    Although it wouldn't surprise me, knowing how wacky he thinks sometimes....

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    Here's the link for the schedule...

    http://www.nhl.com/schedules/index.html

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    Poj, get the beer in the fridge....

    For those who give a shit, the Pens highlights....

    Oct 5 2005, Wed AWAY Devils 7:30 PM ET - (Mario's 40th birthday, Crosby's debut... What the fuck is the NHL doing sending them to Jersey ??)

    Oct 7 2005, Fri AWAY Hurricanes 7:00 PM ET - (Poj, just as a friendly reminder, my brand's Bud Ice... I'll grab the tix when they go on sale)

    Oct 8 2005, Sat HOME Bruins 7:30 PM ET - (Home opener)

    Dec 27 2005, Tue HOME Maple Leafs 7:30 PM ET - (5th anniversary of Mario's comeback, just so happens to be home against the Leafs again)

    Feb 10 2006, Fri AWAY Hurricanes 7:00 PM ET
    Feb 11 2006, Sat AWAY Capitals 7:00 PM ET - (Possible VA doubleheader road trip)

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    They probably made the schedule before the lottery, so they didn't know about Crosby going to Pit.

    About the Gretzky thing, Wayne wanted to go to Toronto because that's who he cheered for as a kid. The Leaf's fans would have gone nuts, but Leaf owners didn't want to pay the hefty Gretzky price tag when they were already selling out the Gardens with the current lineup. Looks like winning the Cup was second priority. Fuck the Leafs.

    . . .then again, if Gretzky REALLY wanted to play there, he'd lower his asking price. . .whatever

    GO SENS!
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    I can't wait!!!

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    Originally posted by UGS
    They probably made the schedule before the lottery, so they didn't know about Crosby going to Pit.

    About the Gretzky thing, Wayne wanted to go to Toronto because that's who he cheered for as a kid. The Leaf's fans would have gone nuts, but Leaf owners didn't want to pay the hefty Gretzky price tag when they were already selling out the Gardens with the current lineup. Looks like winning the Cup was second priority. Fuck the Leafs.

    . . .then again, if Gretzky REALLY wanted to play there, he'd lower his asking price. . .whatever

    GO SENS!
    Buffalo drafted GRETZKY's brother...Apparently it wasn't all genetics unfortunately.

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    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
    You're gonna lose Domi to the Pens, by the way....

    Looking pretty solid right now....
    Take him please!!!!

    We'll throw in Aki, hell take Nolan too.

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    Hell ya, I have been wanting Toronto to get rid of that tool Domi for years....Although I dont know how we will replace the 4 or 5 goals he gets a season....

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    Originally posted by Full Bug
    Hell ya, I have been wanting Toronto to get rid of that tool Domi for years....Although I dont know how we will replace the 4 or 5 goals he gets a season....
    He's rumored to be talking to the Penguins. It makes sense, he's good friends w/ Mario, and they need some muscle behind Crosby.

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    He's rumored to be talking to the Penguins. It makes sense, he's good friends w/ Mario, and they need some muscle behind Crosby.
    He won't do Crosby any good sitting in the box for dumb

    penalties.

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    Dunno, I've always thought he was a better offensive player than he's been given credit for...

    Maybe doesn't get the goals, but moves the puck around pretty well....

    But you guys are right, they need more muscle...

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    Leafs slash ticket pricesBut going to a game still won't be cheap

    TORONTO (CP) — In the wake of the NHL lockout, the Toronto Maple Leafs have cut ticket prices by five per cent.

    Seats will range from $35 (down from $37 in 2003-04) in the upper purple section to $173 (down from $182) in the lower gold and platinum sections. The team says the season ticket prices, the lowest since 2002, will run through the 2006-07 season.

    “Under the new collective bargaining agreement we have lower player costs, however we’ll be incurring significant expenses that are new to us, totalling tens of millions of dollars,” Tom Anselmi, executive vice-president and chief operating officer for Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment, said in a statement Friday.

    “That said, we feel we can put in place a five per cent across-the-board ticket price decrease while remaining revenue-neutral in the short term.

    The Leafs, always a tough ticket in Toronto, did not explain the “significant expenses” in their release. The team says more than 43 per cent of the seats at Air Canada Centre will now be priced at $68 or less, and 14 per cent will be capped at $35 for regular season games.

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    Big fucking deal, the last game I went to cost me 70.00 bucks, now its 68? What a joke....

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    Originally posted by Full Bug
    Big fucking deal, the last game I went to cost me 70.00 bucks, now its 68? What a joke....
    Cheaper tickets you still can't get.

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    Maybe I could use the extra 2 bucks to buy half a hot dog....

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    Originally posted by Full Bug
    Maybe I could use the extra 2 bucks to buy half a hot dog....
    This is what the Leafs consider a gesture to their fans....
    Shit, I meant to edit my post, not qoute....

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    Originally posted by Full Bug
    Seats will range from $35 (down from $37 in 2003-04) in the upper purple section to $173 (down from $182) in the lower gold and platinum sections.
    I'm assuming that's Canadian dollars...

    One of you Canucks translate to real money....

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    Well, its about 80-85 cents to the dollar these days so you figure it out....

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    TSN.ca will cybercast four hours of the draft starting at Noon ET/9 am PT.

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    God, I dont think I could sit through that whole thing, wake me when its over....Will keep an eye on it though....

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    Originally posted by Full Bug
    God, I dont think I could sit through that whole thing, wake me when its over....Will keep an eye on it though....
    I'm curiuos about that second pick, and of course who the Leafs get.

    No way I'm sitting through the whole thing, that would be like trying to watch Aki Berg stick handle

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    Yeah, no shit, lol...
    Its only 2 hours long, surprised, figured they would drag it out to more like 4 hours....

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    Here we go....

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    1. Penguins - Crosby

    2. Ducks - Bobby Ryan

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