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    A draft for guys, 99% of whom, you'll see in five years if at all.
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    Fuck those NHL guys going on strike!

    I haven't been to a MLB basebal game since it died with the strike of 1994.

    NHL?

    R.I.P.
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    Originally posted by NightProwler
    Fuck those NHL guys going on strike!

    I haven't been to a MLB basebal game since it died with the strike of 1994.

    NHL?

    R.I.P.
    They were locked out...

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    Still...there was no season, so FUCK those guys!

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    Originally posted by NightProwler
    Still...there was no season, so FUCK those guys!
    Right! No reason......other than mismanagement of the League by Bettman!!!
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    Originally posted by Matt White
    Right! No reason......other than mismanagement of the League by Bettman!!!
    It aint that simple, saleries going up by 550% didnt help matters....
    You can thank Bob for that one, I loved it when the owners won.....
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    I still can't believe it....

    The Crosby era has begun....
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    He's just a baby, he's gonna get killed!!

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    Lets get this straight, I have no idea....
    Is Crosby playing this year?
    Otherwise, who cares really, 3 years from now I will be dead.....

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    Originally posted by NightProwler
    Fuck those NHL guys going on strike!

    I haven't been to a MLB basebal game since it died with the strike of 1994.

    NHL?

    R.I.P.
    Dude, we get it. Everything post 94 sucks in your book.

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    He is supposed to step right in. He doesn't even turn 18 'til next

    month. Where did he play junior? The Quebec Major Junior Pussy

    league? The last time anyone got hit in that league was when a

    rink attendant was run over by the Zamboni in 1976.

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    Carolina traded one of their better players...Jeff O'Neill to Toronto for a conditional '06 draft choice...

    he's just never reached his potential...and the common belief here is that O'Neill requested the trade because his older brother was killed 2 weeks ago...and he wanted to be closer to his family...
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    That's a good deal for Toronto.

    Shame about his brother.

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    Christ...Mario looks like his dad...or granddad...

    lmfao...the Crosby era...no pressure there...

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    It's a great deal for Toronto...O'Neill was counted on here in NC to carry this team as it's star...

    in Toronto...he should be the role player he should be...

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    It's a great deal for Toronto...O'Neill was counted on here in NC to carry this team as it's star...

    in Toronto...he should be the role player he should be...
    Wow he's only 29! It's about time the Leafs pulled off one of

    these deals where they don't give up much. We are usually

    watching other teams do this.

    We have some old guys to cut loose somehow.

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    Christ...Mario looks like his dad...or granddad...

    lmfao...the Crosby era...no pressure there...
    Well, he is 22 years older than him....

    Pretty much towers over him too....

    Most people forget that about Lemieux, for as amazingly talented as he is, he's done it at 6'5"....

    Unlike Gretzky, at 6 feet even....

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    Yeah...Lemieux certainly had a size advantage...that's for sure...

    God that picture makes me laugh whenever I see it...

    Mario off to check is portfolio...

    crosby to a mirror to pick a zit...

    lmfao...

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    Sure hope they can sign Malkin....

    Fortunate thing is, both Crosby and Malkin have the same agent....

    They reported that Malkin's Russian coach is saying he thinks he'll stay in Russia...

    Duh, of course he's gonna say that...

    Show me the rubles !!!!!

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    Since when did these RUSSIAN teams start paying big money?:confused:\

    I hear the SABRES' MAX AFINOGENOV might stay in his home country as well. Less hitting, longer career. Who wouldn't go for that?
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    Originally posted by Full Bug
    It aint that simple, saleries going up by 550% didnt help matters....
    You can thank Bob for that one, I loved it when the owners won.....
    By why did the salaries go up FB? Because the free market allowed it. The owners, after listening to Bettman, thought the League was going to blow up like the NBA & NFL. Remember the skating Robots on FOX?!? THe TV ratings never materialized, leaving the small market teams, once again, holding the bag.
    The BIG owners finally got put in thier place by the small market teams: SHARE OR NO NHL.

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    Heard some interesting (but very good) news last night on Pittsburgh Sports Tonight....

    They may actually have to cut off season ticket sales at the Igloo, so that there will be ample opportunity to buy smaller packages, or individual game sales....

    Just amazing what one lucky bounce of the ping pong ball will do for ya...

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    Hey Bugger, plenty of room for you on the Penguins bandwagon !!!!

    Seems like you Leafs fans are losing abOOt all of your players....

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp...37&hubName=nhl

    Panthers sign Nieuwendyk and Roberts

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    8/1/2005 6:08:29 PM

    The Florida Panthers signalled the NHL's new era Monday by outbiding the Toronto Maple Leafs as the free-agent market opened with more tire kicking than actual signings.

    The Panthers kicked off the free-agent period by signing veteran forwards Joe Nieuwendyk and Gary Roberts, long-time buddies who will play together on an NHL team for the third time.

    It didn't take long for the Leafs to get their first taste of the new economic order, unable to match the two-year, $4.5-million US deals each player got from Panthers GM Mike Keenan.

    "There were parameters with which we were working that didn't meet their needs," Leafs GM John Ferguson said Monday night from his Air Canada Centre office. "They made a decision in their best interest."

    Meanwhile, the tantalizing free-agent duo of Markus Naslund and Peter Forsberg began shopping their services. Whether or not they can package themselves together remains to be seen.

    "Markus's approach has always been `Who wouldn't want to play with Peter Forsberg?"' Naslund's agent Mike Gillis said. "But there has to be some things that need to come together for that to happen. We'll have to wait and see."

    The New York Rangers are believed to be interested in the pairing although they certainly weren't the only team inquiring about Naslund on Monday.

    "There's been tremendous amount of interest in him," said Gillis, who added that Vancouver was still in the mix to resign its captain. "We're going to be patient. When it begins to really catch fire it'll go quickly."

    The agent for unrestricted free agent Scott Niedermayer was also a busy man Monday, the No. 1 defenceman on the market getting his fair share of calls.

    "We've talked to at least 14 teams today," Kevin Epp said from his North Vancouver office. "Some of them are just wanting to see what the market might be.

    "Some of them were just tire kicking, no real offers made today. I don't think there's any front-runners at this point. Out of the 14 teams, there's probably 10 legitimate possibilities though."

    Other moves Monday:

    - The Edmonton Oilers traded winger Brad Isbister to the Boston Bruins in exchange for a fourth-round draft pick in the 2006 NHL entry draft. In 51 games with the Oilers during the 2003-04 season, Isbister had 10 goals, eight assists and 54 penalty minutes.

    - The Minnesota Wild signed unrestricted free-agent tough guy Andrei Nazarov. The 31-year-old had 125 penalty minutes in 33 games with the Phoenix Coyotes in 2003-04.

    - The Los Angeles Kings signed unrestricted free-agent winger Tom Kostopoulos, 26, to a two-year deal.

    The Leafs, meanwhile, were clearly outbid by the Panthers, something that wasn't possible under the old collective bargaining agreement when Toronto was among the biggest free-agent spenders. But the Leafs have about $9 million left of cap room and need to sign about seven players. They simply could not afford what the Panthers gave the veteran duo.

    "Our discussions with Toronto were positive and right up until the end it was just as likely that they would be able to stay there," said Rick Curran, the agent for both players. "After the noon starting time (for free agency), I had almost immediately two proposals sitting on my desk from other teams.

    "I had a further conversation with Toronto. It reached the point where the boys had to make a decision on what they wanted to do going forward."

    And that was Florida, which anted up with $2.25-million salaries.

    "It really wasn't a financial decision," Nieuwendyk said on a conference call, although he admitted, "clearly the terms of the deal I'm awfully excited about."

    Roberts was slated to earn $3.75 million during the wiped-out 2004-05 season while Nieuwendyk was at $3 million. The long-time friends and teammates in both Toronto and Calgary were unrestricted free agents.

    Roberts, 39, played four years with the Leafs and had 28 goals and 20 assists in 72 games in 2003-04.

    The 38-year-old Nieuwendyk played just the one year in Toronto, scoring 22 goals and adding 28 assists in 64 games and making a huge impact in the playoffs in which he had six goals in nine games.

    Keenan made the first plunge into free agency on a day where agents and GMs burned up the phone lines. Everyone is trying to figure out what exactly is the new market.

    "You try to get a feel for what the market might bear," said Keenan. "It's certainly a complete unknown at this time. But you do have relationships with agents. I've known Rick Curran for a long time.

    "There's has to be a level of trust when he says there are other offers at a `X' amount of dollars. I have to believe him."

    Still, there seemed to be hesitation from both sides Monday.

    "A lot of teams are expressing their interest and asking that we call them when it begins to happen," said Gillis, who also represents unrestricted free agents Bobby Holik, Mathieu Schneider and Pavol Demitra, among others. "Which is par for the course, everyone is dealing with a new world out there and no one is eager to make a mistake."

    Roberts and Nieuwendyk were the first in a long list of unrestricted free agents to sign.

    Among those available are Forsberg, Naslund, Mike Modano, Alexei Kovalev, Demitra, Ziggy Palffy, Holik, Alexei Zhamnov, Paul Kariya and Teemu Selanne. The defencemen are led by Niedermayer, Adam Foote, Sergei Gonchar, Brian Leetch, Derian Hatcher, Brian Rafalski, Mathieu Schneider, Mike Rathje, Roman Hamrlik and Adrian Aucoin.

    Added to that is an already flooded market because of a large number of players who weren't tendered qualifying offers, therefore making them unrestricted free agents.

    That list includes Miroslav Satan, who was cut loose by the Buffalo Sabres, as well as Martin Skoula (Anaheim), Ville Nieminen (Calgary), Bryan Berard (Chicago), Richard Park (Minnesota), Jason Ward (Montreal), Vladimir Orszagh (Nashville), Dan Blackburn (N.Y. Rangers), Martin Prusek (Ottawa), Brian Boucher (Phoenix) and Brad Lukowich (Tampa Bay).

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    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=132133

    Oilers trade Isbister to Bruins

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    EDMONTON (CP) - The Edmonton Oilers traded forward Brad Isbister to the Boston Bruins Monday in exchange for the Bruins' fourth-round draft pick in the 2006 NHL entry draft.

    In 51 games with the Oilers during the 2003-04 season, Isbister had 10 goals, eight assists and 54 penalty minutes.

    ''Brad is a solid winger who brings good size to our forward lines,'' Bruins general manager Mike O'Connell said in a statement. ''We're happy to have him on our team.''

    Isbister, 28, was originally drafted by the Winnipeg Jets with the 67th overall pick in the 1995 NHL entry draft. The 6-foot-4, 231-pound Edmonton native split his first three pro seasons between Phoenix and its AHL affiliate in Springfield. He spent three-plus seasons with the New York Islanders before being dealt to the Oilers in March, 2003.

    Isbister has recorded 93 goals and 90 assists for 183 points with 517 penalty minutes in 409 career NHL regular-season games. He has one goal and two assists for three points with 31 penalty minutes in 14 career playoff games.

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    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
    Hey Bugger, plenty of room for you on the Penguins bandwagon !!!!
    LOL....
    Not surprised they didnt get Roberts, but was surprised and dissappointed about Nieuwendyk...

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    The LEAFS will being picking up MIRO SATAN I bet. The SABRES just cut 'em loose.

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    Flyers set for 'multiplayer announcement'

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    The Philadelphia Flyers are set to make a big splash in the free agent market on Tuesday.

    Amid reports the team had come to terms with defencemen Derian Hatcher and Mike Rathje, the Flyers say a "multiplayer announcement" would be made on Tuesday.

    After losing out in the Adam Foote sweepstakes, it appears general manager Bob Clarke has turned his sights to Hatcher, who was bought out last week by the Detroit Red Wings.

    "Well, we've got a lot of lines in the water and we'll just have to see how it goes," Clarke tells the Philadelphia Daily News while refusing to specify which players the team is after.

    Aside from Hatcher and Rathje, the Flyers are said to have also targeted Adrian Aucoin and Brian Rafalski.

    Agent Larry Kelly who represents Aucoin says they are no longer in the mix because their asking price was too high. TSN has learned that Aucoin has signed a four year deal worth $16-million with the Chicago Blackhawks.

    Kevin Epp, the agent for free agent defenseman Scott Niedermayer, says he's disappointed the Flyers have not called. It's believed Niedermayer's reported $7-million asking price was just too high for Clarke.

    Clarke has reportedly budgeted $6.5-million to try and shore up the Flyers glaring need for a big defenseman.


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    Yzerman signs one year deal with Detroit

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    8/2/2005 1:48:23 PM

    Steve Yzerman looks set to finish his career where it all began, signing a one year contract with the Detroit Red Wings.

    Terms were not immediately announced.

    "I'm very pleased to have Steve resign for another season with the Red Wings," said general manager Ken Holland.

    "I'm confident that he has a lot of great hockey left to play and his return, along with return of Red Wings hockey to Joe Louis Arena this fall is great news for our fans and our organization."

    The 40-year-old, who was scheduled to earn $4.5 million US during the wiped-out 2004-05 season, was said to be contemplating retirement after suffering broken bones near his eye during the 2004 playoffs.

    Yzerman, who has helped lead Detroit to three Stanley Cup championships, has a franchise-record 70 playoff goals and 181 points in his 21-season career with the Red Wings. In regular-season games, Yzerman has 1,721 points, trailing only Marcel Dionne, Ron Francis, Gordie Howe, Mark Messier and Wayne Gretzky in league history.


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    Still lots of Free Agents around, but getting a little antzy....

    Where are these signings that the Pens promised ??

    The main players they're been targeting haven't been signed, I guess that's a good thing....

    Even read one report that says they're going after Forsberg and Naslund (former Pen)....

    Plus Neidermayer or Rafalski on Defense... P-Burgh TV is reporting they offered Rafalski 4 Mil a year for 4 years....

    Looking at Khavibulin at the Goal...

    We'll just see....

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    Re: Yzerman signs one year deal with Detroit

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    8/2/2005 1:48:23 PM

    Steve Yzerman looks set to finish his career where it all began, signing a one year contract with the Detroit Red Wings.

    Terms were not immediately announced.

    "I'm very pleased to have Steve resign for another season with the Red Wings," said general manager Ken Holland.

    "I'm confident that he has a lot of great hockey left to play and his return, along with return of Red Wings hockey to Joe Louis Arena this fall is great news for our fans and our organization."

    The 40-year-old, who was scheduled to earn $4.5 million US during the wiped-out 2004-05 season, was said to be contemplating retirement after suffering broken bones near his eye during the 2004 playoffs.

    Yzerman, who has helped lead Detroit to three Stanley Cup championships, has a franchise-record 70 playoff goals and 181 points in his 21-season career with the Red Wings. In regular-season games, Yzerman has 1,721 points, trailing only Marcel Dionne, Ron Francis, Gordie Howe, Mark Messier and Wayne Gretzky in league history.


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    THE CAP 'N' gets his "Farewell" tour!!!

    EXCELLENT!!!

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    Iginla to sign 3-year deal with Flames

    8/3/2005 11:23:22 AM

    Jarome Iginla is staying in Calgary - for the next three years.

    The Flames have scheduled a news conference for 4:30 ET at which they are expected to announce the signing of Iginla to a three-year deal worth $21-million. Iginla was a restricted free agent.

    Calgary has been active in the early days of the free agent signing period. After losing playoff hero Martin Gelinas, the Flames countered by signing Tony Amonte to a $3.7-million, two-year deal and Darren McCarty to a $1.6-million, two-year deal.

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    And the Leafs do nothing!!!

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    Thats good news, since Toronto isnt going to do anything but make the team worse this year I will be cheering on the Flames....

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    We're back to the Ballard days it looks like.

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    Penguins sign Gonchar to $25-million deal

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    8/3/2005 1:34:24 PM

    PITTSBURGH (AP) - Sergei Gonchar, the NHL's highest-scoring defenceman over the last six seasons, agreed Wednesday to a $25-million US, five-year contract with the Pittsburgh Penguins - the team's first big-ticket signing in eight years.

    With No. 1 draft pick Sidney Crosby on the way, an NHL salary cap in place and the twice-bankrupt franchise now on better financial footing, general manager Craig Patrick promised 10 days ago the Penguins would be active in free agency for the first time in years.

    Gonchar, 31, would seem to be a perfect fit for a team that plans to rebuild what once was the NHL's highest-scoring offence now that the league plans to enforce obstruction rules and encourage offence.

    Known for his passing skills and hard slap shot, Gonchar had 148 goals and 277 assists in 669 career games. Despite having a disappointing 2003-04 season - he had a career-low 11 goals in 71 games - he led NHL defencemen with 47 assists. He was the first Russian-born defensemen to score 20 goals in a season, netting 21 with Washington in 1998-99.

    New Jersey's Scott Niedermayer was considered to be the top defencemen on the market, and he is expected to command a salary between $6 million and $7 million. Gonchar was thought to be on the next level, on par with or slightly above Adam Foote - who signed a three-year, $13.8 million deal with Columbus - and Adrian Aucoin, who agreed to a four-year pact with Chicago worth $16 million.

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    "Sergei had interest from numerous clubs over the past two days. The market for defencemen accelerated very quickly Monday night and all day Tuesday," J.P. Barry, Gonchar's agent, said Wednesday. "We had several teams interested, but from a hockey perspective Pittsburgh was clearly the best fit for Sergei. When we were able to finalize the compensation, it was an easy decision."

    Gonchar, long a Penguins antagonist while with the Washington Capitals, has 113 goals and 213 assists since the 1998-99 season. After nine seasons in Washington, Gonchar was dealt to the Bruins late in the 2003-04 season and was offered a four-year by Boston last month. He had won a $5.5 million arbitration award for the 2004-05 season, which wasn't played due to the NHL labour dispute. He made $3.65 million in 2003-04.

    With Crosby's arrival pumping up ticket sales - the Penguins have sold thousands of season tickets since winning the draft lottery July 22 - and restoring interest in a team that has missed the playoffs for three consecutive seasons, the team felt it could afford to re-enter the free agent marketplace.

    Since signing former NHL scoring champion Jaromir Jagr to a $38 million contract extension in 1998, the team went into bankruptcy, then spent most of three seasons shedding players it could no longer afford, including Jagr, Alex Kovalev, Martin Straka, Robert Lang and Darius Kasparaitis.

    Owner-player Mario Lemieux, who bought the team after the bankruptcy filing, also is selling the franchise, to San Jose-based businessman William (Boots) Del Biaggio - a move that should also improve the struggling team's finances.

    The Penguins reached the Eastern Conference finals in 2000-01 after Hall of Famer Lemieux unexpectedly ended a 44-month retirement but has failed to reach the playoffs since. The Penguins lost 18 consecutive games and had the league's worst record during the 2003-04 season.

    Coincidentally, Gonchar left the Capitals late in the 2003-04 season during a Penguins-like burst of salary shedding that included the departures of Jagr and Lang, who had come to the Capitals after Pittsburgh began downsizing its payroll, and team career scoring leader Peter Bondra.

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    And the Leafs do..........nothing!!!!!

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    Re: Penguins sign Gonchar to $25-million deal

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    And the Leafs do..........nothing!!!!!
    GM ruining Leafs
    So far, Ferguson out to lunch in new NHL
    By STEVE SIMMONS

    JOHN FERGUSON hasn't looked so cool with how he has handled some of the Maple Leafs' affairs. (Michael Peake, SUN files)
    TWO DAYS into the brave new hockey world and already John Ferguson's reputation is taking a pounding.

    What, players and agents are wondering, is the general manager of the Maple Leafs doing?

    The answers, however varied, are not encouraging.

    Ferguson's clumsy handling of negotiations with Gary Roberts and Joe Nieuwendyk -- where he attempted to have close friend Roberts undercut close friend Nieuwendyk -- sent a cryptic message to those within the industry. And then, to follow that up with a desperation offer to Nieuwendyk, after first trying an end run on him, only demonstrated his own inexperience in deal making.

    Players talk. Word gets around fast. The Leafs have suddenly become an exit ramp instead of a destination. Those who play for the team and those who want to play for the team now wonder amongst themselves about the lack of buyouts, about free-agent qualifying offers, about a team that appears to be heading nowhere.

    There were 57 messages on Roberts' cellular phone on Monday, almost of all them from players around the NHL. Not coincidentally, Adam Foote, hoping to play for the Leafs, signed a long-term contract in Columbus, where no one grows up dreaming of playing for the Blue Jackets.

    Just last week, board chairman Larry Tanenbaum described the Leafs as the "No. 1 franchise in the National Hockey League." Today, we might demand a recount, as the No. 1 franchise is finding itself forced to dine out on other people's table scraps.

    The way Ferguson has positioned this team in the post-lockout NHL has one wondering exactly why Pat Quinn was replaced as general manager in the first place.

    Ferguson insisted the Leafs would be competitive this coming season. He has not wavered from that stance. But how is that going to be possible?

    Ferguson has said he had a plan heading into the re-establishment of the NHL, but no plan is evident. And the notion that he is clearing cap room to take a run at younger free agents a year from now makes nice logic if: a) you believe it; b) you think players such as Vinny Lecavalier, Joe Thornton and Jarome Iginla won't be signed long term by then; c) he has the foresight and long-term confidence to write-off an entire season and deal with the fall-out from that.

    The largest problem for the Leafs is how little money they have and how the player market -- post lockout -- hasn't corrected itself as much as many expected it to. Conventional wisdom was there would be a significant drop in player contract values in the new economic world.

    So far, that hasn't been the case.

    Quality defenceman such as Foote, Adrian Aucoin, Derian Hatcher and Mike Rathje have all signed in the $3-million to $4-million range per season. That's more money than even some optimistic of agents were banking on.

    Yesterday, quality forwards but not star players such as Glen Murray, Bobby Holik and Pavol Demitra all signed contracts for more than $4 million a season. Which is out of the Leafs' price range because of the way they've bungled their cap situation.

    With only a maximum of $9 million left to spend -- and remember, the Leafs and every team have to leave some room available in order to make moves during the season -- Ferguson has the ability to sign one reasonably priced player and not much more than that.

    So he will gamble on Jason Allison, who hasn't played a full season in four years and he will hope. And he likely will gamble on Eric Lindros, who he can afford because Lindros missed 100 days of hockey last time there was a season and qualifies for performance bonuses and he will hope.

    The No. 1 team in hockey, built on gambling, hoping and inexperience.

    A year ago, the Leafs had Nieuwendyk and Roberts and Alexander Mogilny and Owen Nolan and Brian Leetch and Tie Domi -- all of them real pros -- on a team that wasn't considered good enough.

    How is John Ferguson going to fix that now?

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    Yep, read that over a beer after work.

    The thing with Simmons though, is that he is buddies with Roberts.

    But there are valid points in that article.

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    HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!!!!

    Flyers land Forsberg

    TSN.ca Staff

    8/3/2005 6:47:51 PM

    Peter Forsberg is going back where he started. TSN has learned that the Philadelphia Flyers have signed Forsberg to a two-year deal worth $10.7 million.

    Forsberg will get $5.7 million in the first year of the deal and $5.0 in the second year.

    The aquisition of Forsberg puts the Flyers over the NHL's salary cap, but GM Bob Clarke expects to make a trade within the next two days to get back under the league's financial limit.

    The player most likely to go is veteran Jeremy Roenick, with NHL sources suggesting he is about to be moved to the L.A. Kings.

    Forsberg was orginally drafted by the Flyers, 6th overall, in 1991. He was then traded to the Quebec Nordiques in the Eric Lindros deal in 1992 before ever playing a game with Philadelphia.

    Forsberg has 741 points in 580 NHL games. He was considered the top forward available in this off-season's free agent crop.


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    We're done....toast...it's over before it began....again.

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