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    Devils hanging tough. The law of averages finally catching up to LA.
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    Go Devils!!!!!
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    Congrats to the KINGS.......anyone hear Dustin brown drop the F bomb after the game with Pierre Maguire?.......Hilarious.
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    My condolences Mr. Mephistopheles

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    Congrats to the Kings, was a pretty decent finals considering the Wings weren't in it, always next season, interested to see what Detroit does with the Lidstrom money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFM_Dale View Post
    Congrats to the Kings, was a pretty decent finals considering the Wings weren't in it, always next season, interested to see what Detroit does with the Lidstrom money.
    Maybe they will buy some players with some balls!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Halen View Post
    Maybe they will buy some players with some balls!
    I think the Wings need more muscle and a bit less finesse....
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    Totally agree with you guys, Wings need some muscle in a bad way, most interesting off season in awhile for the Wings.

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    Congrats to the Kings. Not much of a game 6 after that 5 min major and the 3 PP goals but hey 16-4 playoff run by LA not bad.

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    18 years ago today.......Captain Mark Messier hoisted the Rangers first Stanley Cup in 54 years. I remember it like it was yesterday.....hopefully it isn't another 54 years until the next one.

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    Ahh and back in 2010 Patrick Kane scores the Cup winner for long suffering Hawk fans....Seems so long ago

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    BAM......Rangers trade Dubinsky, Anisimov, and Tim Erixon for Rick Nash.........Love it......we get rid of dead weight and playoff pussies and finally grab another goal scorer. Now we need a gritty winger.

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    What do you all think of your teams moves so far? My Panthers have me slightly concerned, but there's still plenty of time, I'm trusting in Tallon. We have some good young guys coming up this year that may surprise us.
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    Ballsy move for my Pens to trade Staal, but Shero had to do it. Staal even refused the same deal he signed with Carolina....

    Although, he got a pretty good return, especially with Brandon Sutter....

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    I thought they received good value in the trade for sure. I was pretty surprised
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    Yeah, me too.... Besides Sutter, the D-man Dumoulin just graduated from Boston College, and then they got the Canes #8 overall pick, which they took the D-man Pouliot, plus their own #1 pick.....

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    The talk here is the Sabres pursuing Shane Doan. I love the guy and would be ecstatic if he came here, but at four years $30M he just doesn't score enough...

    I think they've done well just getting Steve Ott for Derek Roy (Dallas)....but it won't be enough, as usual...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Va Beach VH Fan View Post
    Ballsy move for my Pens to trade Staal, but Shero had to do it. Staal even refused the same deal he signed with Carolina....

    Although, he got a pretty good return, especially with Brandon Sutter....
    I predicted all this years ago in this thread...although I though it woudl be more the cap that would make it necessary to trade Staal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    The talk here is the Sabres pursuing Shane Doan. I love the guy and would be ecstatic if he came here, but at four years $30M he just doesn't score enough...

    I think they've done well just getting Steve Ott for Derek Roy (Dallas)....but it won't be enough, as usual...
    Sorry...what did you say? Can't concentrate on your post...not sure why...

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    You know my feelings on the Cup that got away Nick. You was robbed.

    I am sure that high offer is from the Sabres.

    Thing is that money almost makes sense in the East. In the West, the addition of Shane is a small piece in terms of a physical presence compared to some of these teams.

    Who knows how the league is going to call the game next year. It seems you can't really predict how the game is going to be officiated. The last two years the Cup winner has been a thuggish team.

    Will it go back the other way? I dont think anyone knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeo Delight View Post
    You know my feelings on the Cup that got away Nick. You was robbed.
    We may have been robbed, but it was only of a chance for the Cup with a game 7 in Dallas...

    In a way, the Sabres are more often robbed by misfortune. I actually think they came closer to winning the Cup in 2006 when in the conference finals, they entire defense collapsed in injury with three or four starters going down and basically having to play the Rochester Amerks dee the final games. I think they would have whipped the Canes otherwise and certainly would have defeated Edmonton in the Cup Finals...

    I am sure that high offer is from the Sabres.

    Thing is that money almost makes sense in the East. In the West, the addition of Shane is a small piece in terms of a physical presence compared to some of these teams.

    Who knows how the league is going to call the game next year. It seems you can't really predict how the game is going to be officiated. The last two years the Cup winner has been a thuggish team.

    Will it go back the other way? I dont think anyone knows.
    Welp, the Sabres signed the biggest pure goon left in hockey just to deal with the Bruins' Chara and the subtraction of Roy for Ott will help. They may even be a force come playoff time but they just don't have the top-end play-makers to win much more than a couple of series. For the first time in a while, the Bills may actually be more contenders than the Sabres...
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    I would love Shane Doan on my team.....but definitely not for that amount of cheddar.

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    CANCELLED!! N:fupunk:HL

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    LOL Just the preseason no one fucking cares about anyways. Maybe I should take it a little slower at 4am in the morn...

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    Nice! I don't see them losing a season this time. Don't know how the league can get past the top 10 teams pushing the envelope with every CBA while the bottom 10 sell 2 for 1 season tickets and bring in a fraction of what it takes to survive in markets they should never be in...boggles the mind. The top teams are tired of subsidising these on a permanent basis and this why there is support from owners to take back that money with direct clawback from the players

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    ESPN 3 (mainly) & 2 are airing the Russian KHL hockey league games starting tonight:

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    WGR 550 in Buffalo, NY is reporting that basically Gary Bettman says things did not go well today in meetings with the NHLPA, and that their offer did not come close to the concessions the League was making (50-50 revenue split).

    It seems the season now appears to be in more serious jeopardy than at any time previous...

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    Welp, finally in substantive talks supposedly. Does anyone like the odds of a December 1st start to a shortened season?

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    I don't like it one bit... but I'll take it. I figure they'll do about 40-50 games?

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    They will return sometime next year both sides are not budging enough to resolve this anytime soon...
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    I'm gonna be checking out the Kalamazoo Wings when they stop by Gwinett Arena to kick the Gladiators asses in January! Can't wait!

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    Mediators Will Oversee Negotiations On Lockout

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    The N.H.L. and players’ association have agreed to mediation in an effort to break the stalemate in negotiations between the two sides, the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service announced.

    “At the invitation of the F.M.C.S., and with the agreement of both parties, the ongoing negotiations will now be conducted under our auspices,” George H. Cohen, the service’s director, said in a statement Monday, the 72nd day of the N.H.L. lockout.

    Three mediators will be involved in the negotiations, including the deputy director Scot L. Beckenbaugh and the director of mediation services John Sweeney. Commissioner Guy Serota was originally assigned to the talks, but was removed an hour later because of comments made on a Twitter account with his name.

    Beckenbaugh served as a mediator during the 2004-5 N.H.L. lockout, when the season was canceled.

    “While we have no particular level of expectation going into this process, we welcome a new approach in trying to reach a resolution of the ongoing labor dispute at the earliest possible date,” Bill Daly, the N.H.L.’s deputy commissioner, said in an e-mail. “We have no further comment on the upcoming meetings at the current time.”

    The two sides last met last Wednesday, when the N.H.L. rejected most parts of a union proposal that moved in the owners’ direction on several issues. A league spokesman, Gary Meagher, said no negotiating sessions were scheduled as of Monday afternoon.

    Donald Fehr, the executive director of the N.H.L. Players’ Association, said in a statement that the union looked forward to the mediators’ involvement.

    William B. Gould IV, a former chairman of the National Labor Relations Board and a professor emeritus at Stanford Law School, said it was impossible to say whether mediation would help bring a settlement.

    “You can’t gain any hope as a result of this, per se,” said Gould, who has served as an arbitrator in baseball and will appear as an expert witness for the N.H.L. at a Quebec labor board hearing next week on whether the lockout is lawful under the province’s laws. “But look, it’s better than the alternative. If the parties had said they don’t want to go to mediation, that would be downright discouraging. So the fact they’re willing to do it, that they have some things to discuss, is in itself hopeful.”

    The presence of federal mediators was credited with helping to bring about settlements in the N.F.L. and N.B.A. lockouts last year, but mediation did not lead to a successful resolution of the 2004-5 N.H.L. lockout.

    On Feb. 13, 2005, Beckenbaugh, then the acting director of the federal mediation service, ordered the league and union to meet in Washington one day ahead of a deadline for cancellation of the season imposed by Commissioner Gary Bettman. It was the third time, all in February, in which mediators intervened in the lockout.

    At that bargaining session, the union agreed for the first time to discuss acceptance of a salary cap. Over the next two days of talks, the league offered a salary cap set at $42.5 million a team, and the union offered a salary cap set at $49 million. But the gap was too wide for the owners, and Bettman announced the season’s cancellation Feb. 16.

    That 2005 gap, calculated on a leaguewide basis, came to $195 million for the season. Mediators in the current talks will try to close an estimated gap of $182 million over five seasons, or $36.4 million a season. But issues pertaining to free agency, arbitration and contract limits also remain unresolved.

    Cohen said in his statement that he “had separate, informal discussions with the key representatives of the National Hockey League and the National Hockey League Players’ Association during the course of their negotiations.”

    Cohen will not take part in the mediation. He did participate last year during the N.B.A. and N.F.L. lockouts and in 2010, when he helped avert a strike by the Major League Soccer players union.

    According to his biography on the F.M.C.S. Web site, Beckenbaugh has mediated agreements in the cereal, heavy equipment manufacturing, aluminum and meatpacking industries.

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    Gary Bettman is David Stern's little Bitch boy and has ruined this league since he got into it. That prick needs to go!!!!!!!
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    Yeah, this season is not happening. Fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Take 'Em View Post
    Gary Bettman is David Stern's little Bitch boy and has ruined this league since he got into it. That prick needs to go!!!!!!!
    Not to mention that stupid idea of placing clubs in cities where it doesn't even snow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BITEYOASS View Post
    Not to mention that stupid idea of placing clubs in cities where it doesn't even snow.
    Hey! I love having Hockey down here.. Unless you live where it's constantly frozen, you require indoor rinks as well.

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    except that in fla hockey tickets do not cost $125 each and not to mention $11 for a beer like up here...oh and its 6 degrees right now and we have snow....Cheers!

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