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    Montreal Canadiens re-sign forward Alexei Kovalev and add Detroit's Dandenault

    August 3, 2005
    MONTREAL (AP) -- Alexei Kovalev and former Detroit forward-defenseman Mathieu Dandenault each signed four-year contracts with the Montreal Canadiens on Wednesday.

    Kovalev, acquired at the 2004 trade deadline from the New York Rangers, decided to stay with the Canadiens after spurning other offers -- including one to return to Pittsburgh where he enjoyed his best seasons.

    The right winger will earn $4.5 million per year. Dandenault will receive $1.7 million in 2005-06, $1.7 million in 2006-07, $1.75 million in 2007-08 and $1.75 million in 2008-09.

    Kovalev, one of the top forwards available on the unrestricted free agent market, had 10 points in 11 playoff games with Montreal in 2004. He scored a career-high 44 goals during the 2000-01 season with Pittsburgh

    Dandenault had spent his entire NHL with the Red Wings, winning three Stanley Cup titles in nine years in Detroit.
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    Well, FINALLY the Pens get the ball rolling...

    Excellent signing with Gonchar.... I'd have been happy with either him, Neidermayer, or Rafalski.... Seriously doubt that they'll get either of those two now...

    That power play is gonna be FUCKING AWESOME... Can't wait until the road trip to the palacial Pojo mansion on Oct. 7th....

    Even ONLY the D-men on the PP will be great.... Gonchar, Tarnstrom, and Jackman (Thanks again Leafs !!! ).... Then throw those other scrubs in there, like Lemieux, Recchi, Crosby, Malone....

    Really surprised that Kovy didn't come back to the Burgh, but obviously the Habs must have jacked up their money to get him....

    They need to sign a good RW now... Who knows who at this point...

    Read a handful of different reports that Cujo is basically signed by the Pens (Thanks AGAIN Leafs !!!)... Also reading that Sean Burke may be coming as well (hope that's not true)....
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    Bobby Clarke is a moron. He's already maxed out his payroll which means he's going to be handcuffed if and when injuries start rolling in, and again at the in-season trading deadline.

    The new CBA is really going to let the good GM's shine. I like what Bob Gainey is doing in Montreal. He's already stated that he wants to start the season with a $30 million payroll so he can have some flexibility to plug holes on the roster during the season. Now if only the Habs would sign Brendon Shannahan.......
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    Damn, I for one am glad the game is back.
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    Originally posted by Roth & Roll
    Now if only the Habs would sign Brendon Shannahan.......
    Coming back to play with the Wings this season.

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    Re: Re: Penguins sign Gonchar to $25-million deal

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    GM ruining Leafs
    So far, Ferguson out to lunch in new NHL
    By STEVE SIMMONS

    JOHN FERGUSON hasn't looked so cool with how he has handled some of the Maple Leafs' affairs. (Michael Peake, SUN files)
    TWO DAYS into the brave new hockey world and already John Ferguson's reputation is taking a pounding.

    What, players and agents are wondering, is the general manager of the Maple Leafs doing?

    The answers, however varied, are not encouraging.

    Ferguson's clumsy handling of negotiations with Gary Roberts and Joe Nieuwendyk -- where he attempted to have close friend Roberts undercut close friend Nieuwendyk -- sent a cryptic message to those within the industry. And then, to follow that up with a desperation offer to Nieuwendyk, after first trying an end run on him, only demonstrated his own inexperience in deal making.

    Players talk. Word gets around fast. The Leafs have suddenly become an exit ramp instead of a destination. Those who play for the team and those who want to play for the team now wonder amongst themselves about the lack of buyouts, about free-agent qualifying offers, about a team that appears to be heading nowhere.

    There were 57 messages on Roberts' cellular phone on Monday, almost of all them from players around the NHL. Not coincidentally, Adam Foote, hoping to play for the Leafs, signed a long-term contract in Columbus, where no one grows up dreaming of playing for the Blue Jackets.

    Just last week, board chairman Larry Tanenbaum described the Leafs as the "No. 1 franchise in the National Hockey League." Today, we might demand a recount, as the No. 1 franchise is finding itself forced to dine out on other people's table scraps.

    The way Ferguson has positioned this team in the post-lockout NHL has one wondering exactly why Pat Quinn was replaced as general manager in the first place.

    Ferguson insisted the Leafs would be competitive this coming season. He has not wavered from that stance. But how is that going to be possible?

    Ferguson has said he had a plan heading into the re-establishment of the NHL, but no plan is evident. And the notion that he is clearing cap room to take a run at younger free agents a year from now makes nice logic if: a) you believe it; b) you think players such as Vinny Lecavalier, Joe Thornton and Jarome Iginla won't be signed long term by then; c) he has the foresight and long-term confidence to write-off an entire season and deal with the fall-out from that.

    The largest problem for the Leafs is how little money they have and how the player market -- post lockout -- hasn't corrected itself as much as many expected it to. Conventional wisdom was there would be a significant drop in player contract values in the new economic world.

    So far, that hasn't been the case.

    Quality defenceman such as Foote, Adrian Aucoin, Derian Hatcher and Mike Rathje have all signed in the $3-million to $4-million range per season. That's more money than even some optimistic of agents were banking on.

    Yesterday, quality forwards but not star players such as Glen Murray, Bobby Holik and Pavol Demitra all signed contracts for more than $4 million a season. Which is out of the Leafs' price range because of the way they've bungled their cap situation.

    With only a maximum of $9 million left to spend -- and remember, the Leafs and every team have to leave some room available in order to make moves during the season -- Ferguson has the ability to sign one reasonably priced player and not much more than that.

    So he will gamble on Jason Allison, who hasn't played a full season in four years and he will hope. And he likely will gamble on Eric Lindros, who he can afford because Lindros missed 100 days of hockey last time there was a season and qualifies for performance bonuses and he will hope.

    The No. 1 team in hockey, built on gambling, hoping and inexperience.

    A year ago, the Leafs had Nieuwendyk and Roberts and Alexander Mogilny and Owen Nolan and Brian Leetch and Tie Domi -- all of them real pros -- on a team that wasn't considered good enough.

    How is John Ferguson going to fix that now?
    Geez, he's just as bad as his old man when he was running the Jets in the 80s.
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    Just signed with Anaheim.
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    Flyers ship Roenick to Los Angeles

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    8/4/2005 12:53:14 PM

    One of the most colourful and outspoken players in the National Hockey League will get a chance to shine in Tinseltown, as the Philadelphia Flyers have traded veteran centre Jeremy Roenick and a third round pick in the 2006 NHL Entry Draft to the Los Angeles Kings on Thursday in exchange for future considerations.

    The deal comes just a day after the Flyers signed free-agent forward Peter Forsberg to a two-year, $11.5 million US contract and the team was expected to trade Roenick and keep their payroll under the $39 million US salary cap.

    Roenick will make $4.94 million US this season.

    In 16 seasons with the Flyers, Phoenix Coyotes and Chicago Blackhawks, Roenick has scored 475 goals and 1120 points in 1124 regular season games.

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    I'm vewy vewy happy.
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    Penguins sign forward Andre Roy

    8/4/2005 12:17:17 PM

    The Pittsburgh Penguins made another move in the free agent signing period, signing right wing Andre Roy.

    Terms of the contract were not released.

    Roy, 30, played in 33 games for the Tampa Bay Lightning during the 2003-04 season, tallying two points (1+1) and 78 penalty minutes.

    In 21 playoff games that same season, he recorded three points (1+2) and 61 penalty minutes while helping the Lightning win its first Stanley Cup Championship in team history.

    The 6-4, 221-pound Roy has played in 310 career games in the National Hockey League for the Lightning and Ottawa Senators, recording 52 points (25+27) and 734 penalty minutes. He set career highs in goals (10) and points (17) during the 2002-03 season while playing for Tampa Bay.

    Roy was drafted by Boston in the fifth round (151st overall) of the 1994 NHL Entry Draft.


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    Re: Scott Niedermayer

    Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
    Just signed with Anaheim.
    Joins his brother ... right?

    Think so ...

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    Bruins sign center Zhamnov

    August 4, 2005
    BOSTON (AP) -- The Bruins agreed with center Alexei Zhamnov on a three-year contract on Thursday, one day after signing defenseman Brian Leetch.

    Zhamnov has 248 goals, 461 assists and 638 penalty minutes in 12 NHL seasons. He has scored 20 or more goals in nine seasons and a season-high 30 goals with Winnipeg in just 48 games in 1994-95.

    He was an All-Star in 2002 and has won three Olympic medals -- one of each kind -- for Russia.

    Zhamnov, 34, played four seasons of hockey in Russia before joining the NHL. He played four years with the Winnipeg Jets before he was traded to Chicago in a multiplayer deal for Jeremy Roenick.

    Zhamnov played more than seven seasons with the Blackhawks, scoring 20-or-more goals five times, before finishing the 2003-04 season with Philadelphia. He returned to Russia last year during the lockout.

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    2005 Nhl Free Agent Signings

    August 4, 2005

    FREE AGENTS SIGNING TO PLAY WITH A NEW TEAM
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    PLAYER NEW TEAM PREV TEAM TERMS
    ------ -------- --------- -----
    Tony Amonte, rw Calgary Philadelphia undisclosed
    Adrian Aucoin, d Chicago NY Islanders 4 years, $16 million
    Bryan Berard, d Columbus Chicago 2 years, undisclosed
    Patrice Brisebois, d Colorado Montreal 2 years, undisclosed
    Mathieu Dandenault, d-rw Montreal Detroit 4 years, undisclosed
    Pavol Demitra, c Los Angeles St. Louis 3 years, undisclosed
    Aaron Downey, rw St. Louis Dallas 1 year, $450,000
    Adam Foote, d Columbus Colorado 3 years, undisclosed
    Peter Forsberg, c Philadelphia Colorado 2 years, undisclosed
    Martin Gelinas, lw Florida Calgary 2 years, undisclosed
    Sergei Gonchar, d Pittsburgh Boston multi-year, undisclosed
    Derian Hatcher, d Philadelphia Detroit 4 years, undisclosed
    Bobby Holik, c Atlanta NY Rangers undisclosed
    Jason Labarbera, g Los Angeles NY Rangers 2 years, undisclosed
    Brian Leetch, d Boston Toronto 1 year, $4 million
    Marek Malik, d NY Rangers Vancouver undisclosed
    Darren McCarty, rw Calgary Detroit undisclosed
    Shawn McEachern, rw Boston Atlanta 2 years, undisclosed
    Andrei Nazarov, lw Minnesota Phoenix undisclosed
    Joe Nieuwendyk, c Florida Toronto 2 years, undisclosed
    Mike Rathje, d Philadelphia San Jose 5 years, undisclosed
    Gary Roberts, lw Florida Toronto 2 years, undisclosed
    Martin Rucinsky, lw NY Rangers Vancouver undisclosed
    Miroslav Satan, lw NY Islanders Buffalo 3 years, undisclosed
    Dave Scatchard, c Boston NY Islanders 4 years, undisclosed
    Jon Sim, lw Philadelphia Pittsburgh 1 year, $450,000
    Martin Skoula, d Dallas Anaheim 2 years, undisclosed
    Cory Stillman, c Carolina Tampa Bay 3 years, undisclosed
    Martin Straka, c NY Rangers Los Angeles undisclosed
    Chris Therien, d Philadelphia Dallas 1 year, $500,000
    Pierre Turgeon, c Colorado Dallas 2 years, undisclosed
    Peter Vandermeer, w Montreal Detroit 1 year, undisclosed
    Trent Whitfield, c St. Louis Washington undisclosed
    Alexei Zhitnik, d NY Islanders Buffalo 4 years, undisclosed


    FREE AGENTS SIGNING TO PLAY WITH THEIR PREVIOUS TEAMS
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~

    PLAYER/POS TEAM TERMS
    ---------- ---- -----
    Francois Beauchemin, d Columbus 2 years, undisclosed
    Brian Boucher, g Phoenix 1 year, $900,000
    Francis Bouillon, d Montreal 1 year, $600,000
    Marc Chouinard, c Minnesota 1 year, $650,000
    Manny Fernandez, g Minnesota 1 year, undisclosed
    Denis Hamel, lw Ottawa 2 years, undisclosed
    Jarome Iginla, rw Calgary multi-year, undisclosed
    Tom Kostopoulos, rw Los Angeles 2 years, undisclosed
    Alexei Kovalev, rw Montreal 4 years, undisclosed
    Joel Kwiatkowski, d Florida 2 years, undisclosed
    Mike Modano, c Dallas 5 years, undisclosed
    Glen Murray, rw Boston 4 years, undisclosed
    Markus Naslund, lw Vancouver 3 years, undisclosed
    Thomas Pock, d NY Rangers undisclosed
    Patrick Traverse, d Dallas 1 year, undisclosed
    Kevin Weekes, g NY Rangers undisclosed
    Steve Yzerman, c Detroit 1 year, undisclosed


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    Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
    8/4/2005 12:17:17 PM

    The Pittsburgh Penguins made another move in the free agent signing period, signing right wing Andre Roy.

    Terms of the contract were not released.

    Roy, 30, played in 33 games for the Tampa Bay Lightning during the 2003-04 season, tallying two points (1+1) and 78 penalty minutes.

    In 21 playoff games that same season, he recorded three points (1+2) and 61 penalty minutes while helping the Lightning win its first Stanley Cup Championship in team history.

    The 6-4, 221-pound Roy has played in 310 career games in the National Hockey League for the Lightning and Ottawa Senators, recording 52 points (25+27) and 734 penalty minutes. He set career highs in goals (10) and points (17) during the 2002-03 season while playing for Tampa Bay.

    Roy was drafted by Boston in the fifth round (151st overall) of the 1994 NHL Entry Draft.


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    Yeah, not especially excited about this one, especially if they go out and still get Domi...

    I mean, how many enforcers to you need (they already have Vandenbusse)....

    Latest Pens rumors....

    Kariya is a strong possibility, and Selanne a little less strong....

    As for the goalies, still looking like either Cujo or Burke....

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    Re: Numminen

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    Just signed with the Sabres.
    I dunno what to make of TEPPO. He's a defenseman that plays like a forward...
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    Domi resigned with the Leafs, 2 years for 2.5 Mil.....

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    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
    Domi resigned with the Leafs, 2 years for 2.5 Mil.....
    Hooray! Playoffs here we come!
    I cant put into words how disgusted I am with the Leafs these days....
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    Originally posted by Full Bug
    Hooray! Playoffs here we come!
    I cant put into words how disgusted I am with the Leafs these days....
    But Bug, who could we possibly have spent that money on other than Tie?

    Holy fuck, what a mess!!!


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    You guys don't know how bad I feel for you big market fans...

    [[ Chuckle, chuckle.... ]]


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    Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
    You guys don't know how bad I feel for you big market fans...

    [[ Chuckle, chuckle.... ]]

    Ouch....

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    Steve Yzerman is THE Captain!
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    Originally posted by NightProwler
    Steve Yzerman is THE Captain!
    Aki Berg is Tennille....

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    Hopefully without the modified Moe Howard hair-cut!

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    Originally posted by guwapo_rocker


    Holy fuck, what a mess!!!

    Why should management care? They could put the Ice Capades on the ice with Leaf Jerseys and the ACC would still sell out....

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    Why should management care? They could put the Ice Capades on the ice with Leaf Jerseys and the ACC would still sell out....
    That's true.

    Everything MLSE touches turns to shit as far as product goes.

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    Joseph 'intrigued' with playing in Pittsburgh

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    8/5/2005 9:59:37 AM

    The Pittsburgh Penguins are expected to make a final decision on goaltender Curtis Joseph, possibly as early as Friday.

    According to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, general manager Craig Patrick and Joseph's agent, Don Meehan, spoke earlier this week about the veteran netminder.

    "He's going to get back to me at the end of the week," said Meehan. "He had some other priorities, but he's indicated he is going to have an interest."

    "I've indicated to Craig that I wouldn't do anything until I talked to him."

    Meehan says he did not discuss what kind of role Joseph would play with the Penguins, whether it be a co-number one with Marc-Andre Fleury or as a backup. However, he says Joseph is "intrigued" by the possibility of playing in Pittsburgh.

    Joseph spent the 2004 season as part of a revolving goaltending carousel in Detroit, going from starter to backup to minor leaguer in the span of about five months. After veteran Dominik Hasek was sidelined for the season with a groin injury, Joseph and Manny Legace settled into the starters role. He finished with a 16-10-3 record and a 2.39 goals against average.

    Meehan says up to four other teams have indicated an interest in the 38 year old.

    The Penguins are also said to be interested in netminder Sean Burke.


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    Free agent Khabibulin joins Blackhawks

    8/5/2005 12:29:59 PM

    The most coveted goaltender in the free agent market has finally found a home, as veteran netminder Nikolai Khabibulin has signed with the Chicago Blackhawks.

    It is a four-year deal worth $27 million US.

    "When we began this process, we targeted Nikolai Khabibulin and Adrian Aucoin as the two main players we wanted to sign," said Blackhawks General Manager Dale Tallon.

    "Not only did we accomplish our goal in signing these players, but we were also able to sign Martin LaPointe and Jaroslav Spacek. Along with Jassen Cullimore, Matthew Barnaby, and Curtis Brown whom we signed last year we feel that we have really improved our team."

    Khabibulin, 32, helped lead the Tampa Bay Lightning to their first Stanley Cup title in 2004, posting five postseason shutouts and a 1.71 goals-against average.

    The native of Russia posted a 28-19-7 regualr season record in 2003-2004 with three shutouts and a 2.33 goals-against average.

    Since being acquired from the Phoenix Coyotes on March 5, 2001, Khabibulin has amassed a 83-74-28 record while leading the team to consecutive Southeast Division titles. He holds franchise records in wins, shutouts (14) and consecutive wins (eight).

    The signing will all but likely spell the end of Jocelyn Thibault's tenure in Chicago. The veteran netminder was acquired from the Montreal Canadiens back in 1998.

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    And the Toronto Maple Leafs signed........









































    Rodney Peuniss, Chief Towel Boy/Jock Sniffer.

    Terms of the contract were not disclosed.

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    Domi takes jab at media coverage

    TIE DOMI'S idea of a partnership in the re-launched National Hockey League goes beyond an improved relationship between the NHL and the NHL Players' Association.

    Twice during a news conference yesterday Domi, without being asked a question, scolded the Toronto media for being too hard on general manager John Ferguson this week and implored reporters to be more positive as a whole.

    "In this new CBA, as a partnership, I think we need the media on our side in this market," Domi said. "We need a positive spin on this market and this team. We need your guys' help, too. The more you knock our team, the less it is helping us. I just hope whatever John does we will be behind it."

    Never mind that the majority of reporters and columnists don't pack pompoms before heading off to games.

    Though he agreed later each is entitled to his or her opinion, Domi abruptly cut short an interview on AM640, apparently because of a beef with Leafs Lunch co-host Bill Watters.

    HELLISH WEEK

    Domi, who warned against dismissing the Leafs this season even though he referred to the club as an underdog, acknowledged the past week had been hellish. It also has not been easy for Ferguson, who could not do much as conference rivals such as the Philadelphia Flyers and Boston Bruins made a number of moves to improve.

    Ferguson still has some work to do before training camp opens around Sept. 12. With the signings of Domi and Jason Allison, he has approximately $7 million to $8 million US remaining to sign four players. And there are whispers now that he is willing to trade defenceman Ken Klee after deciding to not buy out Klee's $1.9-million contract.

    Biding his time in an effort to pounce on big names next summer is not part of Ferguson's thinking.

    "This is not solely about today and tomorrow but it is about establishing competitiveness and an ability to win over time," Ferguson said. "It pains me to say this market has not won in 37 years and counting, but we have a plan that is going to put us in place to have a club that can win now and in the future."

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    Originally posted by Full Bug

    "This is not solely about today and tomorrow but it is about establishing competitiveness and an ability to win over time," Ferguson said. "It pains me to say this market has not won in 37 years and counting, but we have a plan that is going to put us in place to have a club that can win now and in the future."
    Hell, I feel awhole lot better now, all warm and fuzzy, dont you guwapo_rocker?

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    Re: Joseph 'intrigued' with playing in Pittsburgh

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    The Pittsburgh Penguins are expected to make a final decision on goaltender Curtis Joseph, possibly as early as Friday.

    According to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, general manager Craig Patrick and Joseph's agent, Don Meehan, spoke earlier this week about the veteran netminder.

    "He's going to get back to me at the end of the week," said Meehan. "He had some other priorities, but he's indicated he is going to have an interest."

    "I've indicated to Craig that I wouldn't do anything until I talked to him."

    Meehan says he did not discuss what kind of role Joseph would play with the Penguins, whether it be a co-number one with Marc-Andre Fleury or as a backup. However, he says Joseph is "intrigued" by the possibility of playing in Pittsburgh.

    Joseph spent the 2004 season as part of a revolving goaltending carousel in Detroit, going from starter to backup to minor leaguer in the span of about five months. After veteran Dominik Hasek was sidelined for the season with a groin injury, Joseph and Manny Legace settled into the starters role. He finished with a 16-10-3 record and a 2.39 goals against average.

    Meehan says up to four other teams have indicated an interest in the 38 year old.

    The Penguins are also said to be interested in netminder Sean Burke.


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    Neither one of these guys would I mind...as long as they are backups...and damn...Burke or CuJo as a fucking backup...gotta love that...
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    Re: Re: Joseph 'intrigued' with playing in Pittsburgh

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    Neither one of these guys would I mind...as long as they are backups...and damn...Burke or CuJo as a fucking backup...gotta love that...
    I doubt Cujo would be happy as a backup, that wouldnt sit well with him at all.....

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    We'll see...with Fleury...CuJo at BEST...would be a spot starter...or...a co #1 for at the most...a season...

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    Neither of them would be a backup, they're looking at starting whichever one they sign to start 50 games....

    The goalie situation isn't even the one I'm still concerned about...

    They need a winger that can actually put the puck in the net....

    The better RW's remaining are Selanne, Palffy, and Bondra....

    I wouldn't mind any of those, but I've always thought that Bondra was always one of the most underrated players in the NHL....

    Prototypical sniper...

    With Mario now retaining the ownership, they obviously feel they're gonna have the money.... I mean shit, they're actually talking about selling out the season....

    I'll believe that when I see it, but it's obvious these guys are only signing with the team that will overpay for them....

    Suck it up and spend the extra cash....

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    selling out the season?

    you have got to be kidding me...

    I just can't fathom that...

    Selanne, at this stage...is overrated...

    I agree with you about Bondra...but I've heard zilch about the Pens talking with any of those guys...

    and the Pens won't overpay...I just don't see it...

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    I know, incredible as it sounds....

    But look at it from this angle...

    They're selling so many season tickets now that they might have to cut them off, so that people can still buy individual game tickets when they go on sale....

    So, hypothetically, let's say they get 10,000 season tickets (again, we'll see about that).... That leaves 7,000 for individual game seats....

    Their schedule is HEAVILY based on Eastern coast teams, matter of fact, the farthest west they're going is frickin' St. Louis !!

    So, combine all of the hoopla with a schedule loaded with hated conference rivals like the Flyers, Rangers, Devils, and the Caps, and I think that's what they're basing it on.....

    But back on the RW situation, I think they have to get SOMEBODY, I still don't think they have the firepower....

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    Boy how things change...to bad they didn't do this 10-12 years ago...

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