Who want's to go see Van Hagar with me and heckle the band?
Who want's to go see Van Hagar with me and heckle the band?
I don't think anyone here "want's" to waste time on that.
Originally posted by Lou
I don't think anyone here "want's" to waste time on that.
I certainly won't spend my money to heckle a band I don't care for...once they've got what they want (your MONEY), they could give less than a phuck about your opinion!
JUST SAY NO
"He doesn't need to sell millions of records, he doesn't need to fill arenas, he doesn't need to be popular, he doesn't need your money, AND HE DOESN'T NEED YOU!"
Blackflag on DLR
Exactly, they make out the same whether you paid to be negative or paid because for some unknown reason you actually enjoy that shit.
I was briefly considering going ONLY, and I repeat ONLY because I never got to see Ed live and I would be going just for him, but ultimately I just know that the badness of Slapnuts will prevent me from enjoying even that.
Um, okay. I'll go.
Originally posted by Dr. Love
Um, okay. I'll go.
Of course you will. After all, you did say you were into Van Hagar before you ever heard of DAVID LEE ROTH.
How sad
Hey, I can't help my age.
And I wasn't exactly truthful; I used to listen to Van Halen when I was under 5. Then DLR left and I didn't hear them again until "Right Now" came out. My favorite song when I was really young was Ain't Talkin' Bout Love; first song I could sing along to (hey hey hey). My parents would put headphones on my ... um ... dwelling before I was born and play VH for me, as well.
I wanted to learn to play guitar, so my Dad made me go see EVH play live. I was so awestruck, so I started to like Van Hagar. I had no frame of reference to compare it to (other than the music of the time, when rap was starting to get a lot more play).
Anyway, after I got enough money to start buying more of the catalog, I learned who DLR was and which set of songs I liked more.
But since I never experienced VH with DLR first, and never experienced the years of feuding, my opinion never soured, and so I can enjoy both for what they are.
Therefore, I'll go.
:p
Roth Grrl 4 EVER!
I'd go if I could get heckled for being there.It'd be a logistical nightmare for the heckler,but not impossible.The heckler would have to keep moving first and foremost.While the mouthbreathing depraved nature of the van hagar faithful is without a doubt comedic and equally sad,it should not be taken lightly.Wardrobe is another consideration,"big johnson" tees,birkenstocks,day-glo cell phones,fannie packs,etc.Fully prepared,a potty mouthed anti-van hagar heckler could make an otherwise snoozefest an affair to remember.....(perfectly timed right before when it's love) "GINO VANELLI YOU FAT MOTHERFUCKER"
I'm going, but not for the cheese. I'm going for the guitar, the bass & to see if 'the drummer' can still hold his own with his slipped disc.
"Honey, my shirt got itself torn up. My shirt tore itself on that stripper's hand, and I need it to be sewed up for the show."
"No problem, Dave, no problem. Say hello to Fluffy."
"Fuck you, Fluffy."
"No, no, you're going to upset Fluffy."
"I ain't saying hello to no stuffed bear."
"You know, now that I think about it, it's going to take a little longer to sew up that shirt than I was thinking."
"Hi Fluffy, how you been?"
"Now that I'm thinking of it even more, it's going to take half the time, Double D, Diamond Dave! Would you hold Fluffy?"
"N--- yeah."
That's no excuse, you're older than me!Originally posted by Dr. Love
Hey, I can't help my age.
Yeah I was exposed to Van Hagar before Van HALEN and I used to think a few years ago that Van Hagar was good and that it could actually match up to the real Van HALEN...and then I saw the light. When I realized what Van HALEN was all about and how Van Hagar pretty much flew in the face of it, it actually sickened me. Nowadays I like to pretend that April 1, 1985-present never existed.
LOL, I know.
I just don't have that level of conviction.
I would just like to point out, I spell my name with a 'y'. VanLimburger indeed! You have spread cheese on the Grades' name. Listen to the Mighty 6 and repent!!
Van Hagar?!?!
Allright, for all of you losers out there... Van Halen (with Hagar) will always be the best. There is, and there never was a "Van Hagar" only a Van Halen featuring Sammy. Remember, Dave only suggested the name, its not his, therefore it would never change no matter who sings. Which preferably in a perfect world would be Sam. Don't get me wrong, Dave is a great performer, and showman; but come on... When it comes to singing he don't come close to the Red Rocker. I grew up a Sammy Fan before I ever even knew who Van Halen was. I loved it, but it didn't matter. I insisted on listening to VH for the first time starting only with the 1st album and going through them in order. I noticed flaws in both eras. With Dave they were a balls to the wall party band. And with Sammy it was all about the music.
Let me point out that they had a lot more hits with Sammy.
So in my mind, I don't hate DLR, Im a VH Fan no-matter who sings (as long as its not Cherone) But I do have a special liking for Sammy. And its a great thing that they are doing.
Rock on, and Peace out.
..all about the music ?
..you daft cunt™
Originally posted by RocStar5150
And with Sammy it was all about the music.
Let me point out that they had a lot more hits with Sammy.
does sound a bit funny to hear these two sentences one after another.
I prefer to have my cheese on top of a bread.
Originally posted by Cato
Golden, why are you FAT?http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...TheDMCross.jpgOriginally posted by lesfunk
Much like yourself as the Jim Morrison of Nazi bunker flies
Look, I worship Eddie, or Edward, or whatever all these homo's are calling him nowdays. He is my God. Whether he has Roth or Hagar singing, or a pack of rabid midgets... It doesn't matter. As long as he's doin the magic on his Guitar, Life will go on.
Interesting question came to mind reading this... How many of you here were born after 1970?
Simple math would indicate if you were born in 1970 you were 15 in 1985 when Dave left odds are pretty good you never saw VH live. If born after 1975 I'd lay odds 99.9% of you were too young to have seen VH live and were only lucky enough to have any exposure unless you had older siblings or parents that kept rock a part of their lives.
Obviously one can formulate an opinion/preference of VH by listening to the albums and bootlegs and video. But there's nothing that can replace actually being there experiencing Van Halen directly from 1978 - 1985.
I don't want to invalidate anyone's opinion but if you come here day in and talk with such emotion and assumed expertise on the subject of something you never experieinced because it was before your time... does make an old timer like me question how the hell do you know what you you are talking about if you were cuttin teeth and watching Seasame Street while the Diamond One was rockin the world??
So I'm real curious how many of you are younger than 35?
"If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”
Fuck off.Originally posted by RocStar5150
Allright, for all of you losers out there... Van Halen (with Hagar) will always be the best. There is, and there never was a "Van Hagar" only a Van Halen featuring Sammy. Remember, Dave only suggested the name, its not his, therefore it would never change no matter who sings.
“If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
I saw VH live with Dave seven times. (including US Festival '83)Originally posted by ZahZoo
I don't want to invalidate anyone's opinion but if you come here day in and talk with such emotion and assumed expertise on the subject of something you never experieinced because it was before your time...
With Spammy once. (that was quite enough for a comparison)
Once with Gary. (again, enough)
Dave IS Van Halen, no matter what anyone thinks. Anything else is just a cheap, rip-off, pop band imitation.
..bullshit , being a ****** , you're bound to have some convictionsOriginally posted by Dr. Love
LOL, I know.
I just don't have that level of conviction.
..even if it's just breaking and entering
...later in wormwood scrubs
Originally posted by flappo
i'm sure grimsdale's on drugs
Originally posted by Cato
translating your Japanese.
"Master Cato is...I order, it's yours. don't ask me to do gay material for the life of me because you kick my bat."
omae baka dana?
I vote for the pack of rabid midgets (over Spammy that is)...Originally posted by RocStar5150
Look, I worship Eddie, or Edward, or whatever all these homo's are calling him nowdays. He is my God. Whether he has Roth or Hagar singing, or a pack of rabid midgets... It doesn't matter. As long as he's doin the magic on his Guitar, Life will go on.
oh, you know the pack of rabid midgets comes with daveOriginally posted by John Ashcroft
I vote for the pack of rabid midgets (over Spammy that is)...
Roth Army Militia
Yep, he's the ring-leader. Even if he didn't sing a word, the show'd be 1000 times more entertaining than anything with Spammy at the helm.
Originally posted by RocStar5150
Allright, for all of you losers out there... Van Halen (with Hagar) will always be the best. There is, and there never was a "Van Hagar" only a Van Halen featuring Sammy. Remember, Dave only suggested the name, its not his, therefore it would never change no matter who sings. Which preferably in a perfect world would be Sam. Don't get me wrong, Dave is a great performer, and showman; but come on... When it comes to singing he don't come close to the Red Rocker. I grew up a Sammy Fan before I ever even knew who Van Halen was. I loved it, but it didn't matter. I insisted on listening to VH for the first time starting only with the 1st album and going through them in order. I noticed flaws in both eras. With Dave they were a balls to the wall party band. And with Sammy it was all about the music.
Let me point out that they had a lot more hits with Sammy.
So in my mind, I don't hate DLR, Im a VH Fan no-matter who sings (as long as its not Cherone) But I do have a special liking for Sammy. And its a great thing that they are doing.
Rock on, and Peace out.
All about the music? Pull your head out of your ass nimrod.
Born in '71, did actually get to see DLR-led VH in 1984, my first concert. Of course my perceptions at that age were far different than when I was older and went to other VH shows.
I hear ya Zahzoo. I always find it funny that those who were like 4 years old when Dave left make these claims about knowing what "real" VH was all about live. How the hell would you even know what it was like, you were still watching Barney. I was there at 13, and don't feel I really got the full enjoyment of the experience because I was so young.
For the record, it was by far the most memorable show I've ever been to. I've seen Ed, Mike, and Al play better since, but the energy at that show was unreal.
Last edited by Brett; 03-12-2004 at 01:51 PM.
Shove a cattle prod up Sambo's ass right before the opening number,Originally posted by RocStar5150
Look, I worship Eddie, or Edward, or whatever all these homo's are calling him nowdays. He is my God. Whether he has Roth or Hagar singing, or a pack of rabid midgets... It doesn't matter. As long as he's doin the magic on his Guitar, Life will go on.
*BOOM*....there's your rabid midget.
That is the most bullshit argument, that if you weren't around during the Roth era then you're not allowed to say how great it was.
Well guess what:
I HAVE THE ORIGINAL SIX ALBUMS AND BOOTLEGS. ALL I NEED ARE MY TWO EARS TO CLUE ME IN AS TO WHICH IS THE BETTER BAND.
Now go troll off to the Van Hagar Links all you Slapnuts fans, please.
Barney wasn't around when I was an infant...thank GodOriginally posted by Brett
How the hell would you even know what it was like, you were still watching Barney.
If what you want from a band is Top 40 "hits" played on a cheesy synthesizer then go listen to N'Suck or a Flock of Seagulls. But don't call that fucking garbage "Van Halen", because it definitely is not that.Originally posted by RocStar5150
Let me point out that they had a lot more hits with Sammy.
You probably thought "Silly Love Songs" and "Say Say Say" were as good as anything on the White Album or Revolver. Or that the Puff Daddy rape of Kashmir was 10 times better than the real song.
Eat Us And Smile
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"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
Who is Sammy Hagar?
David Lee Roth says that Sammy Hagar is a bridge drone troll. I think he is a complete whiney bitch who is deathly afraid of the success that Classic Van Halen had that he could never live up to. Bluntly put he is just an old angry man who lives in a delusional fantasy world in which Van Hagar sold 20 million more albums than Classic Van Halen. Every time he talks he utters nothing but lies and sounds like a sack of assholes. Sarge told me that Bette Midler and Sammy Hagar are the same person. For a laugh please ask me who Bette Midler is. Thanks for your time. ..Who is Sammy Hagar?
"I decided to name my new band DLR because when you say David Lee Roth people think of an individual, but when you say DLR you think of a band. Its just like when you say Edward Van Halen, people think of an individual, but when you say Van Halen, you think of…David Lee Roth, baby!"!
The perspective element was the point of my questions... not weather anyone can identify with good music or let's make it great music.Originally posted by Brett
I hear ya Zahzoo. I always find it funny that those who were like 4 years old when Dave left make these claims about knowing what "real" VH was all about live. How the hell would you even know what it was like, you were still watching Barney. I was there at 13, and don't feel I really got the full enjoyment of the experience because I was so young.
I was born in 58, so I saw VH w/ Dave in 78 as a 20 year old. At that age I could discern the true impact Van Halen had on the entire rock industry at the time. Plus I was working in that industry at the time... While Edward's guitar work had musicians going nuts cause that was ground breaking... the band's overall impact was not as huge as most of you youngsters either were led to believe or are trying to sell. At the time rock was taking a back seat to Pop, Disco and Punk from a popular perspective.
Van Halen and the big name rock acts were still selling albums and filling venues but seriously there were NOT the big show of the time. In all honesty, they were the side show and a lot of the rock world were frankly laughing their asses off at Dave's schtick, dress and lack of pipes/singing ability. The only factor that kept the VH factor afloat at the time, was the musical aspects (Ed, Al & Mike). Which kept the audience in the game and Dave was the entertainment. But as the rock bands of the time went... the Dave factor was actually more of an embarrasment than the thing legends being built were perceived. Note: that was attitude among adult rockers... To be honest it was the teenagers that were cutting their teeth on Kiss, Alice Cooper and the freak show acts that really started embracing the Dave element. But most of that scene was just on the rise towards Glam rock coming out of Southern California... the rest of the nation was elsewhere.
It really wasn't until the tide of Hair bands hit it's stride that Rock took the front stage again in popularity. By that time VH was on it's last breath but managed to throw out 1984 which was really the bridge that shifted the overall scene from pop back to guitar oriented rock. Then Dave bails... bad timing IMO. Van Halen's rebirth with Hagar was bigger in the sense that rock over all was bigger and VH did draw top bill on much bigger venues than ever before. Plus initial rather than sustained sales were bigger too... That make it better... not necesarrily. But you have to put it in perspective of the times.
Dave was bigger too... and his 1st phase of his solo career was actually pretty stellar... but it was more a reflection of the times and the industry because when the "hair band" era faltered... so went Dave in the popularity aspects.
So this all sounds like a history lesson and it is... but if at times I question some of you about just how stellar Dave is/was. Understand it from someone who rode the waves as an adult at the time with a much differing perspective than someone who bought the albums, traded the boots and saw the videos... after they grew up.
Doesn't make you wrong cause you were too young to have been there... just a question of perspective when you kids get on a soapbox...
Peace.
..you wankers should know better than to argue with el-fordo
ZahZoo: that was one of the best posts EVER. I was born in '69. I was 13 when VH came to Providence on the 84 tour. My mom didnt let me go, but my two older brothers did. I can say that thanks to my older brothers I was well versed in the first 5 albums WAY before 1984 came out.
I still lack that Classic VH rock show experience though. Maybe that is why I am obsessed with collecting as many live VH recordings as I can get my hands on...
Maybe this is what a heroine addict feels like after getting a long awaited fix, shooting up in the corner of some abandoned building and just not giving a fuck about what the rest of the world thinks...TATTOO"
What the fuck is this? Please go to the VAN HAGAR LINKS everyone if you're not interested in celebrating classic Van Halen.
Fuck you Lou, I was listening to it before you were born.
I said what VH was all about "LIVE," not which era of the band you think was better. Try reading next time. And who cares if own bootlegs, that has nothing to do with being alive and experiencing the whole thing first hand.
Last edited by Brett; 03-13-2004 at 06:53 PM.
And Zahzoo, your last post was so dead on about the rock world at that time, and how VH really was perceived. They sold a ton of records, but definitely Eddie's influence and skill kept them above the other cookie-cutter acts at the time. I think Dave's legitimacy as a great frontman came well AFTER he left VH. Living in LA my whole life, VH was always huge here, always.
The Sam stuff worked because it was at the height of pop metal, yep. I think it would have worked with any decent singer they got, it just was the right time for that sound.
PA Rental, bro if you were born in '69, you were 14 or 15 in 1984, not 13.
Aaaaa Geez Lou... I thought that's what we're doing. Care to add to the discussion? What were your 1st-hand experieinces with the band from 1978 -1985?Originally posted by Lou
What the fuck is this? Please go to the VAN HAGAR LINKS everyone if you're not interested in celebrating classic Van Halen.
Yeah Brett I agree... Dave's true impact to the times and genre weren't really realized nor appreciated until it was history. That's the problem with legends and true inovators... many are misunderstood at the peak of their career and it's not until the world has time digest it all does anyone understand the impact.
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