Speaks for itsself really.
if i had to chose i would probably go with tyson because he can hit alot harder than ali can.ali moves like a middleweight but he punches like one too
Speaks for itsself really.
if i had to chose i would probably go with tyson because he can hit alot harder than ali can.ali moves like a middleweight but he punches like one too
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In there prime:
TYSON!
Phukker was BAD-ASS back then!!
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Ali.
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3 round rule but i dunno if ali could take that punishment he did with foreman but tyson is a different breed
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it'd be tyson in a 2 round bout...
tops...
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Mother of Christ...
and in a nutshell...
we have why Tyson gets fights...
because people actually rank this guy with Ali...
No way...even in Tyson's prime...does he beat Ali...
punches like a middleweight my ass...
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Ali definatly couldnt hit as hard as the likes of frazier and norton who were his competition
I agree for the most part...but both Frazier and Foreman (who both hated Ali at the time) said that nobody hit them with harder punches than Ali...
and both those guys got hit by each other...and by Norton...
and what made Norton good wasn't his power...it was his unorthodox style...
Foreman was a straight up thug at the time...
and Frazier didn't have a big punch...he was a bull...
Ali took everything that Foreman had and still beat him.
Ali took everything that everyone had...and still beat them...and when he lost...at least the first three times...
he came back all three times and won the rematch...
and the great thing about Norton, Foreman, Frazier and Ali...they wanted to be the best...
and...the best part about it is that they wanted to be the best...so they always wanted to fight each other...
they didn't take the path of least resistance...like Tyson often did (D'Amato taking care of him)...and some said that Floyd Patterson did...
remember when ali fought spinks and he lost,he looked flabby and slow just like tyson does in his fights now
As I said in the "other" Ali thread:
Muhammad was the TOTAL PACKAGE:
BOXING ABILITY
SPEED
POWER
RING KNOWLEDGE
HEART
KILLER INSTINCT
GREAT CHIN
In his PRIME ALI would have destroyed Tyson. Tyson ALWAYS had trouble with bigger opponents.
ALI would have taken him to school.
Marciano would have too.
JOE LOUIS would have CRIPPLED Tyson.
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Ali beat Spinks 8 months later...and looked much more fit...
Ali was what...40 when he fought Spinks?
Tyson would fuckin kill Ali. Not even fuckin close.
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ALI would drop Tyson like a three foot putt!
PLOP!!!
Like I said...the Tyson mentality shows you how and why Tyson is still a commodity in the heavyweight division...
really...who did this guy beat?
Pinklon "Pinky" Thomas?
Tim Witherspoon 10 years past his prime?
Michael Spinks?
Christ...
wait...
Mitch Blood Green...
Can't believe this is even a debate. ALI. Hands down. And this was before it was even the business it became with TYSON.
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IMO had more power than Tyson ever dreamed..Originally posted by Warham
Ali took everything that Foreman had and still beat him.
prime for prime..
ernie shavers also had more power. lol
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Ali no question was & is the best that will ever be in the Heavys..
the brown bomber/Marciano
in 2nd all time..(tied)
for me it goes
1.Rocky Marciano
2.Joe Louis
3.Muhammad Ali
4.Mike Tyson
5.Joe Frazier
1- ali
2- sugar ray robinson
3- marciano
4- tyon with original trainer
5-joe loius
6-joe frazier
7-jack dempsey
8- holyfeild
9-foreman
10-lewis
jets..weight class bro?
robinson was a middleweight.
Originally posted by redblkwht
jets..weight class bro?
robinson was a middleweight.
i was just thinking that
6.Ken NortonOriginally posted by Dave's Bitch
for me it goes
my top 10 would be
1.Rocky Marciano
2.Joe Louis
3.Muhammad Ali
4.Mike Tyson
5.Joe Frazier
7.George Foreman
8.Sonny Liston
9.Evander Holyfield
10.Roy Jones jr
Heavys
1 ALI no question
2 Marciano
3 Joe Louis
4 peanut head (record only)
Larry Holmes great jab,boxer.
5 Joe Frasier
6 Tyson (prime)
7 Lennox Lewis
8 Riddick Bowe (prime)
9 Holyfield (weight class)
too light IMO
10 George Foreman
Dempsey couldnt take 5
rounds with any of these top
10 bro.. too light.
i was talking all time not for weight
Okie dokie..Originally posted by Redballjets88
i was talking all time not for weight
ill do a all timers tomorrow
night then to counter you
Duran IMO will be in my top 10
believe it or not..
mind you i grew up in the 70's
yeah i just going off of people i have heard of and from watching countdowns and such
my top 10 all time no weight
1.Rocky Marciano
2.Joe Louis
3.Muhammad Ali
4.Mike Tyson
5.Jake Lamotta
6.Ray Leonard
7.Roberto Duran
8.Ray Robinson
9.Joe Frazier
10.Ken Norton
Ray Robinson has to be above Lamotta film or no film.Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
my top 10 all time no weight
1.Rocky Marciano
2.Joe Louis
3.Muhammad Ali
4.Mike Tyson
5.Jake Lamotta
6.Ray Leonard
7.Roberto Duran
8.Ray Robinson
9.Joe Frazier
10.Ken Norton
They fought 6 times and Sugar Ray won 5 of them!!!!
Plus Jake did the unforgivable and threw a fight.
Cheers!
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true true but i just prefer lamotta to robinson
Sexually?
Is this a race thing?
LOL no i just think lamotta is better
Tyson was a biatch...who did he fight...no one....I wouldn't even put him in the top 20....As far as Ali vs tyson.....I won't even reply..it's to obvious
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tyson's a fighter , ali's a boxer
in the ring , ali would dance round him until tyson was tired then knock the shit out of him
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All right...I'm going to start a new thread...top 10 POUND FOR POUND BOXERS OF ALL TIME...
You may not like my list...
but fuck it...
Ali would beat mike tyson easily
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i think in his prime iron mike would beat ali in about round 9 as long as he was moving and not just swingingOriginally posted by davesbitch ih8u
Ali would beat mike tyson easily
Well...again...people are putting Mike in his prime years...
so you all need to put Ali in his prime years...in the mid-60's...Ali was quick...and powerful...and he would have gotten into Mike's head.
I think Tyson would have been running after him for 3 or 4 rounds...and Tyson would have been keeping him back with a quick jab...and running around fucking with him. The one thing Ali/Clay could do better than anyone was make you miss...and leave you in position to get hit. Ali in 5 or 6...
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