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    Exclamation No longer vital, RIP DLR.

    I love David Lee Roth. His music takes me back to a time when all I had to worry about was getting drunk, being with my friends and making sure the skins where kept dry. But that was almost 15 years ago, and even then the music we were just discovering was old school to our older brothers and friends.

    I'd give anything for those days to come back, but sadly all the bitching about Sammy Hager, regardless of the fact he deserves it, isn't going to rewind the world to a time when Dave's music charted and made money on the road.

    The people he's playing with now are irrelevant and boring. I can't help but hope that Dave knows this, that in the back of his mind he's all too aware of how NOT some of these shdrules are, and I hope, more than I hope he gets back to a place where his music is actually exciting again, that he at least recognises this is one of the reasons no one buys his records anymore. Not because we, the silent majority of his fans, don't love him as much as ever, but because Shoop Bop, or whatever it's called, just isn't Knucklebones, or Elephant gun. It isn't even Women and Children first or Take your Whiskey home. It's tired and fun-less - NOT what DLR is all about at all.

    The guy's a legend, but he's just not vital anymore, and I think the forum members who, like me, are dead center with Eat em and smile / 1984 / VH 1 & 2 / Skyscraper Dave will agree, if they're honest about it.

    All he's doing now, by marching on with the same thing he was doing when he was still young enough to get away with it, is trampling on our memory of what his music used to be all about - and worse than that he's become what he least wanted to be.

    It's time not just Dave but all the hair rock idols of the past, Steve Vai in particular, just fessed up to the fact the only reason they keep churning product out is because it makes them more money than just hanging up their spandex and growing old gracefully. Unfortunately for as long as the kind of people who'll no doubt flame me for saying it carry on buying into it and being strung along in the belief it's all still real and happening, they'll be there to re-jig the same old formula and trade in our nostalgia.

    Frankly, it's all just sad - and if I was as clear about it as I am except my name was Eddie Van Halen, I'd have a drink problem too.

    In short, the party is well and truly over. Clean up after yourself when you leave and tommorow, when you've calmed down, go out and buy some new records. I recommend Billy Sheehan's new album - there's actually something new and exciting on it - which I suspect will make a change to some of the people who post their poorly informed opinion all too frequently in here on why people like me are wrong.
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    Yeah ... you love Dave alright ...


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    What's the point of this?

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    DLR7884 - This guy is one bad ass sonafabitch... I've seen him destroy peoples posting careers in a single sentence.

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    I had thoughts on closing this turd before I even clicked on it to read what it said.

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    Glad I didn't, I let the rest of the board kick your ass all over the place for a while.

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    1. Party isn't over ... maybe for you.

    2. Dave is vital to thr true fans of his and diehard members of this site.

    3. Poorly informed posts? You mean like this one?

    4. Wipe YOUR feet on the way out of this site dude.

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    Re: No longer vital, RIP DLR.

    Originally posted by JimGardner
    I love David Lee Roth. His music takes me back to a time when all I had to worry about was getting drunk, being with my friends and making sure the skins where kept dry. But that was almost 15 years ago, and even then the music we were just discovering was old school to our older brothers and friends.

    I'd give anything for those days to come back, but sadly all the bitching about Sammy Hager, regardless of the fact he deserves it, isn't going to rewind the world to a time when Dave's music charted and made money on the road.

    The people he's playing with now are irrelevant and boring. I can't help but hope that Dave knows this, that in the back of his mind he's all too aware of how NOT some of these shdrules are, and I hope, more than I hope he gets back to a place where his music is actually exciting again, that he at least recognises this is one of the reasons no one buys his records anymore. Not because we, the silent majority of his fans, don't love him as much as ever, but because Shoop Bop, or whatever it's called, just isn't Knucklebones, or Elephant gun. It isn't even Women and Children first or Take your Whiskey home. It's tired and fun-less - NOT what DLR is all about at all.

    The guy's a legend, but he's just not vital anymore, and I think the forum members who, like me, are dead center with Eat em and smile / 1984 / VH 1 & 2 / Skyscraper Dave will agree, if they're honest about it.

    All he's doing now, by marching on with the same thing he was doing when he was still young enough to get away with it, is trampling on our memory of what his music used to be all about - and worse than that he's become what he least wanted to be.

    It's time not just Dave but all the hair rock idols of the past, Steve Vai in particular, just fessed up to the fact the only reason they keep churning product out is because it makes them more money than just hanging up their spandex and growing old gracefully. Unfortunately for as long as the kind of people who'll no doubt flame me for saying it carry on buying into it and being strung along in the belief it's all still real and happening, they'll be there to re-jig the same old formula and trade in our nostalgia.

    Frankly, it's all just sad - and if I was as clear about it as I am except my name was Eddie Van Halen, I'd have a drink problem too.

    In short, the party is well and truly over. Clean up after yourself when you leave and tommorow, when you've calmed down, go out and buy some new records. I recommend Billy Sheehan's new album - there's actually something new and exciting on it - which I suspect will make a change to some of the people who post their poorly informed opinion all too frequently in here on why people like me are wrong.
    Something tells me that Beyonce and Jessica Simpson are prominent names in your CD collection.

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    Originally posted by DLR7884
    I had thoughts on closing this turd before I even clicked on it to read what it said.

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    Glad I didn't, I let the rest of the board kick your ass all over the place for a while.
    Ah freedom of speech is a wonderful thing. Shame it isn't always what we want to hear, but that's life!

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    Re: Re: No longer vital, RIP DLR.

    Originally posted by Roth & Roll
    Something tells me that Beyonce and Jessica Simpson are prominent names in your CD collection.
    I take it my point about being into music which is exciting and new, as opposed to formulaic and tired was entirely lost on you then?

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    Why someone would post at a fan site of an artist they hate is beyond me.

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    Re: Re: Re: No longer vital, RIP DLR.

    Originally posted by JimGardner
    I take it my point about being into music which is exciting and new, as opposed to formulaic and tired was entirely lost on you then?
    Pardon me, I have to go to the U2 site now to tell them why I think U2 are washed up.

    Idiot, just because you think the guy is washed up, do you really think this site is gonna close up shop?

    Go film another Rockford Files movie and fuck off.
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    Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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    I knew keeping this thing open was a good idea.

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    You obviously haven't seen a Dave show recently.

    As long as he keeps going out and putting on great shows,

    and I get to hook up and enjoy it, and party with my friends from

    here, I will go.

    He's not vital?? Who the fuck IS vital? My family is vital, it pretty

    much stops there.

    Go fuck a sheep and don't forget your Wellies.

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    Originally posted by DLR7884
    Why someone would post at a fan site of an artist they hate is beyond me.

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    I guess when you get sick of jerking off to gay porn you just look for other "fun" things to do, huh?
    Listen, I mean no disrespect to you personally. But I think it's pretty obvious that I started this thread to stimulate discussion among fellow DLR fans who agree / can sensibly disagree with me and debate things like adults. It's hardly responsible for someone who is supposed to be a moderator to post off topic to distract from the thread's point simply to air his already well established opinion. I am just as entitled to be here as you are and I think there are more than one or two other people on here who'd appreciate it if we were simply allowed to argue points with each other like adults.

    Again, no offense to you personally because I don't know you - but, pretty please with a cherry on top, if you can't stay on topic, don't post - it's basic chat forum etiquette.
    Last edited by JimGardner; 07-30-2005 at 05:17 PM.

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    Originally posted by JimGardner
    Listen, I mean no disrespect to you personally. But I think it's pretty obvious that I started this thread to stimulate discussion among fellow DLR fans who agree / can sensibly disagree with me and debate things like adult. It's hardly responsible for someone who is supposed to be a moderator to post off topic to distract from the thread's point simply to air his already well established opinion. I am just as entitled to be here as you are and I think there are more than one or two other people on here who'd appreciate it if we were simply allowed to argue points with each other like adults.

    Again, no offense to you personally because I don't know you - but, pretty please with a cherry on top, if you can't stay on topic, don't post - it's basic chat forum etiquette.
    Excuse me, but you're getting off topic.

    Anyway now, as you could clearly see, 7884 was inviting other Roth fans to discuss this with you. And that's what we're doing. And hey, you have the right to say that Roth is no longer vital. Hell, one could make the argument that McCartney is no longer vital. I mean, his albums don't sell a whole lot and he basically only plays old stuff for most of his current sets. Does that mean people shouldn't see him and enjoy his legacy and legend? I could also make the same argument for James Brown?

    Should people then not post at James Brown or Paul McCartney forums? BTW, I bet you $100 you can't find a James Brown or Paul McCartney forum as dedicated or lavish as this place.

    Oh, and I liked you in MAVERICK.

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    Originally posted by JimGardner
    Listen, I mean no disrespect to you personally. But I think it's pretty obvious that I started this thread to stimulate discussion among fellow DLR fans who agree / can sensibly disagree with me and debate things like adults. It's hardly responsible for someone who is supposed to be a moderator to post off topic to distract from the thread's point simply to air his already well established opinion. I am just as entitled to be here as you are and I think there are more than one or two other people on here who'd appreciate it if we were simply allowed to argue points with each other like adults.

    Again, no offense to you personally because I don't know you - but, pretty please with a cherry on top, if you can't stay on topic, don't post - it's basic chat forum etiquette.
    You obviously started this thread to stimulate some bullshit and piss off members here. After about 2 or 3 responses, you should have realized that no one here wants to hear how you don't think Dave is "vital".

    You think there are more than 1 or 2 people here who'd appreciate it? You mean Sammy lovers who have the same agenda as you do?

    Seek your attention somewhere else.

    Has to be an alias.

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    Originally posted by ALinChainz
    Has to be an alias.
    Nah, really? Do we get those around here?

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    Is that who's he supposed to be?

    It's GARNER if that's the case.

    He's no longer "vital" either.

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    Originally posted by ALinChainz
    Is that who's he supposed to be?

    It's GARNER if that's the case.

    He's no longer "vital" either.
    Yeah, there's no "D". But I couldn't figure out who else he'd be talking about.

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    I don't agree with everything the guy says...

    but...

    I don't not agree either...

    lighten up...people can have differing opinions...

    again...I guaranfuckingtee that everybody that posted in here that hammered our boy Gardner has scratched their head at least once in the past 5 years...and thought, "Hmmmm...maybe it is time to call it a career..." Probably the only reason a lot of you don't come out and say it...is because the possibility of Roth returning to VH...maybe it's time more people say it...

    There isn't a bigger Roth fan at this site than I am...not one...

    but I'm also not blind and deaf. I saw Roth in 1995....and in 2002...and it was essentially the same show. Both were good...but it was the same show...
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    Re: No longer vital, RIP DLR.

    Originally posted by JimGardner
    Not because we, the silent majority of his fans, don't love him as much as ever, but because Shoop Bop, or whatever it's called, just isn't Knucklebones, or Elephant gun. It isn't even Women and Children first or Take your Whiskey home.

    Shoo Bop (not Shoop Bop) is a song...WACF is an album, whats your point? this makes zero sense, as does the rest of your post.

    Don't come here trying to change minds...the Roth fans here are die hards, while you my friend, are a blow hard.

    Go blow somewhere else.
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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    I don't agree with everything the guy says...

    but...

    I don't not agree either...

    lighten up...people can have differing opinions...

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    "RIP DLR" pissed me off a little

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    So let me get this straight gang...

    That you have to love everything about Roth?

    EVERYTHING?

    YOU CAN'T HAVE A FUCKING OPINION THAT WHAT DAVE'S PUT OUT ALBUM WISE OVER THE PAST 5 YEARS IS SHIT?...and still be a Roth fan?

    Holy fuck...how in the hell did this happen on my watch...

    Is this site that close-minded that WE ALL HAVE TO SHARE THE SAME FUCKING OPINION...

    Look...I respect most everyone that posted in this thread...

    but you all realize what the definition of "sheep" is...right...

    There once was a little group known as EUAS...and we fucking argued with each other as much as we argued with everyone else...

    This guy is a Roth fan...no doubt about that...

    there isn't anything in any of his posts...minus one statement...that leads me to believe any different...

    so WTF?...

    have we closed the door on any differences?

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    Originally posted by diamondsgirl
    "RIP DLR" pissed me off a little
    Oh for fuck sake...it's a figure of speech...

    if I took a buck for every fucking thread that talked about a hypothetical death to a career...I'd be able to fucking open up 20 more Roth sites...

    Who fucking cares...

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    I don't agree with everything the guy says...

    but...

    I don't not agree either...

    lighten up...people can have differing opinions...

    again...I guaranfuckingtee that everybody that posted in here that hammered our boy Gardner has scratched their head at least once in the past 5 years...and thought, "Hmmmm...maybe it is time to call it a career..." Probably the only reason a lot of you don't come out and say it...is because the possibility of Roth returning to VH...maybe it's time more people say it...

    There isn't a bigger Roth fan at this site than I am...not one...

    but I'm also not blind and deaf. I saw Roth in 1995....and in 2002...and it was essentially the same show. Both were good...but it was the same show...
    The one thing I agree with Gar(D)ner on is that Dave hasn't done anything vital since the DLR BAND album. That was a great album. If Dave kept making albums like that, I'd consider him a vital artist, no matter how few records he sells. But making that cover album and not really changing up the set list and ignoring his solo career...that kinda stuff sucks. But then again, I get annoyed when Paul McCartney plays these two and a half hour sets and pretty much plays Beatles material with the odd Wings song and the odd new song. I'd much rather see an artist like McCartney play maybe one third Beatles songs, one third Wings songs, a few new songs and a few 80s songs...instead of just playing the same Las Vegas set tour after tour. Same with Dave. He has a ton of great solo stuff. And that's what sucks. But the one thing I don't agree with is the idea that because he's not vital, it's time to pack it in.

    Some people just want to keep playing. It kinda sucks to see them only a quarter the influentiality they used to be, but at least Dave is still playing live and seeing the fans instead of sitting holed up in his studio, still smoking after having tongue cancer.

    Good points on all sides here. This IS a free speech site, so obviously the guy's allowed his opinion. I still think he wanted a real reaction, though.

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    We had a blast in Orillia, Wilmington, and Sarnia.

    I would be happy if Dave continues to tour with this band.

    You can actually get close have a blast, and maybe have a few

    bucks left in your pocket when you leave.

    I doubt the sheep can say that about the 2004 sham!!!!

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    Originally posted by DLR7884
    What's the point of this?

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    It's called being a pretentious windbag in the guise of a sage....

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    Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
    We had a blast in Orillia, Wilmington, and Sarnia.

    I would be happy if Dave continues to tour with this band.

    You can actually get close have a blast, and maybe have a few

    bucks left in your pocket when you leave.

    I doubt the sheep can say that about the 2004 sham!!!!
    I have enjoyed Dave's shows too. He plays what his fans want to hear.

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    Wow...can you believe it?

    someone can actually throw back a disagreement with a FELLOW ROTH FAN...without calling him a dickhead Hagar fan...

    Guwapo...no doubt that going to a tour stop with pals can be a good thing...no doubt...I didn't say I didn't like both shows that I saw...but if you are just happy with Roth performing the old VH shit over and over and over again...no offense...that's not exactly advancing your career...unless...you are doing it in stadiums with the originals...like say the Stones...

    Rikk...I agree that the DLR Band album was damn good...I like it a shitload of a lot better than Gardner...

    but I haven't ever commented on Diamond Dave for a reason...

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    Originally posted by diamondsgirl
    I have enjoyed Dave's shows too. He plays what his fans want to hear.
    ARE YOU PEOPLE TELLING ME THAT YOU ARE HOPING DAVE IS A NOSTALGIA ACT FOR THE REST OF HIS CAREER?

    No offense...

    but I'm not a fan that wants to hear him put on the same show as the Atomic Punks night after night...

    I want some fucking original shit...

    he's putting out what will get asses in the seats for the people that don't respect anything that Roth might do that doesn't attach itself to the name Van Halen.

    so yeah...I agree...Roth plays what the fans want to hear. At least the fans that don't accept Roth doing shit that isn't related to VH...

    trust me on this...there are plenty of "roth fans" here that wouldn't step within 1,000 miles of a Roth ticket window if they knew he wasn't going to play any old stuff...or at least...any VH stuff...

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    Still vital to me ... at every party I throw or any I attend ... people already know ...

    you can bet cho ass the classic vh is rolling ... when thats over ... we or they take requests ...

    Too each his own obviously ... but you notice how the people who start these threads .. make 2 or 3 responses after that, then shut right up.

    A reaction is what he was after, not debate.

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    Originally posted by POJO_Risin
    Wow...can you believe it?

    someone can actually throw back a disagreement with a FELLOW ROTH FAN...without calling him a dickhead Hagar fan...

    Guwapo...no doubt that going to a tour stop with pals can be a good thing...no doubt...I didn't say I didn't like both shows that I saw...but if you are just happy with Roth performing the old VH shit over and over and over again...no offense...that's not exactly advancing your career...unless...you are doing it in stadiums with the originals...like say the Stones...

    Rikk...I agree that the DLR Band album was damn good...I like it a shitload of a lot better than Gardner...

    but I haven't ever commented on Diamond Dave for a reason...
    Yup. Everything I heard off DIAMOND DAVE was just tired. I'm sorry. It's the only thing he's ever recorded that I haven't picked up. In fact, GUWAPO once attacked me for saying I never bought it:p. Sorry, but it pisses me off. The man is fucking talented. Frankly, I don't want him wasting his time doing a radio show either. I mean, he's great to listen to...but morning after morning, telling the news, the weather, talking about the new Julia Roberts movie...fuck that! Get in the studio with the recently freed-up JOHN 5, record another solid rock 'n' roll disc and then play five songs of it on tour, along with a slew of classic VH and a few songs from EEAS, SKYSCRAPER, plus IT'S SHOWTIME, SHE'S MY MACHINE and A LI'L AIN'T ENOUGH. Now that's vital. And it takes only a few months work to do that.

    To me, it ain't the popularity...it's just attempting to at least do something you haven't done before in spades.

    I own every KINKS album. Some of them didn't even sell 200,000 copies. I don't care. Because the albums on which they took chances are some of the greatest to me, no matter how many records they sold.

    Dave ain't dead. He just needs to be revitalized or it will start looking like ELVIS in the 70s (except Dave looks healthy still).

    One more thing...I agree with GUWAPO...nothing wrong with seeing your favorite artist crank out the old hits and having a good time. But it is nostalgia. Nothing wrong with that, but it ain't as exciting as something vital...

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    And I will admit, I was disappointed with the Diamond Dave CD.

    My point is, Dave hasn't released a decent CD since DLR Band, BUT,

    He is still out there and his shows are a great deal of fun.

    There is a certain genuineness to them, ya know, he is really

    having fun.

    I don't see that with some of these big reunions, and I would be

    very concerned about what we would get from a Van Halen reunion.

    Don't get me wrong, I would go, but I'm afraid it would be very

    "corporate" if you know what I mean.

    I am having a great summer, and Dave has been a "vital" part of it.

    Thanks for your time

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    I saw the show last nite in Redding. Sure it's not 300,000at the US Festival. Daves hey day is behind him sure. But that doesn't mean
    he should stop. That would be what a Van Halen would do. I don't
    think Dave is kidding himself. He knows the industry is different now.
    But whats wrong with going out and playing to the people that want to
    hear him. Everyother band is doing it. What was the last Eagles tune
    that topped the chart? For that matter What was the last anything
    Spammy or Van Halen did. Talk about doing it for the money. All
    I could see was Dave having a good time with the band and the crowd.
    On the way out of the show last nite I heard 2 different people say
    it was the best show they had seen in a long time. Thats what its about. Sure Dave's getting older but fuckit he's out having a good
    time and being happy. The sisters are angry bitter jealous.
    Every time I see them ther bitching about something. Dave always
    puts a smile on someones face. thats what matters not is he vital.

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    Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
    And I will admit, I was disappointed with the Diamond Dave CD.

    My point is, Dave hasn't released a decent CD since DLR Band, BUT,

    He is still out there and his shows are a great deal of fun.

    There is a certain genuineness to them, ya know, he is really

    having fun.

    I don't see that with some of these big reunions, and I would be

    very concerned about what we would get from a Van Halen reunion.

    Don't get me wrong, I would go, but I'm afraid it would be very

    "corporate" if you know what I mean.

    I am having a great summer, and Dave has been a "vital" part of it.

    Thanks for your time
    I hear you, bro. But I'll say this...

    I saw Neil Young in the summer of '96, I think. Front row in a huge field. Him and CRAZY HORSE. They played all the big hits...MY MY, HEY HEY; CINAMMON GIRL; CORTEZ THE KILLER; LIKE A HURRICANE...it was fucking great. First time I'd ever seen him.

    Then, a few years later, me and my girlfriend went and saw him in the Molson Amphitheatre. Halfway back...nowhere near the front. And he played a very strange set with some acoustic, some electric, tons of obscure stuff...the only hits in the whole set were HARVEST MOON and TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT. Guess which show I enjoyed more?

    I enjoyed the second show more because I felt like I was seeing an artist cranking out a set of interesting songwriting selections that he felt like playing...and not just the set the audience wanted. It was amazing.

    I think Dave can do both...tours with mainly hits, and then even smaller venues in which he plays a lot of that solo stuff and new stuff and old blues tunes, etc. Why be a money-maker anymore? Time to be an artist.

    That said, in all these years, I've never had an opportunity to see the man live. Believe me, it's not because I don't want to. And the set list ain't got nothing to do with it.

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    I love Dave.. stil listen to the albums... been to the live shows. But even though I love his work.... doesn't mean I'm blind. And there is no reason I should be. It doesn't make me a lesser fan.

    Reality is... he's improvising (badly) to mask the fact that he can't the high notes anymore. His kicks just don't fit his age anymore. I don't like it... I wish it wasn't so... but this is what is happening. It's a parody of the 80's.

    Do I am a lesser fan now? No!! I'm just living in a real world seeing real things happen.

    Now I am going to listen to Skyscraper again and enjoy Roth.

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    again...many of you can be happy seeing the same thing over and over again...

    and Al...there's just nothing wrong with the originals...nothing...

    but...let's say...VH put out 1 album...and then toured for 10 years off that one album...

    Now...what we have essentially...is Dave...with a guitarist from a VH cover band (a good one...but I agree with Dave's PA Rental...he's not anything better than a lot of other cover guys) who's never been allowed to write his own shit with Dave...a damn good drummer...who's mired down with the same old songs every night...and well... abass player...lmfao...

    My point is simple...

    Dave is a nostalgia act...plain and simple. Sure...he can make guwapo's summer...and a few others...and would have made mine had I fucking went...

    but the fact of the matter is that when you talk aobut being vital to the rock and roll world...with his current material...well...uh...

    he isn't to the general population...

    there's only one way that could happen.

    and as far as Roth fronting VH and being "corporate..."

    um...c'mon...

    you fucking saw him in 1996...he probably walked out on that stage saying, "don't do anything...don't do anything...don't do anything..."

    then rounded the corner onto the stage...

    and no offense to the current band...but crack hED and the original band would bring electricity just in the potential that they all might kill each other...

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    I can't be the only one who liked DD???

    Its not my favorite, (in fact, its my least favorite). But, I thought Dave sounded good if not great on most songs.

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    Sure, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I think saying Dave is no longer vital is more of a statement about YOUR changing musical preference than anything about the state of Dave's career. I guess this happens a lot with age, hence the popularity of acts such as Michael Bolton and Barry Manilow. You're changing, not Dave.

    Dave doesn't worry about doing something that will satisfy the flavor of the month. He gets a vibe and runs with it. Personally, I can't wait to see what he does next. Remember, he's more of a poet and attitude than he is rock star.

    Besides, I'm also sure Mozart and Ludwig Van had to deal with this not vital bullshit sometime in their careers as well.

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    Dave's set in Orillia was about 1 third solo material.

    By Sarnia it was down to Gigalo. I don't know, but the sets are

    shorter and it might be because of his knee. It seems to be

    improving though, he jumped a lot more in Sarnia than Wilmington.

    Finally, the band told Carmine and Golden boy that they have an

    album in the can.

    Now, does Dave just choose not to release it, or will nobody

    touch it?

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    Agree... let him make an album again (a good one) and tour with that album. Not only tour but make the album real on stage. I would go see him again for sure.

    DLR Band was indeed a great album. I saw his first concert since that album in Paradiso in Amsterdam, Holland and was very disappointed. Not only didn't he manage to sing the songs like he used to, but he didn't sing anything from DLR Band. I expected a revitalised and new Roth and only got the old stuff.

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