They have always been one of my Favorite Bands, But You rarely hear anything about them any more. I'd say from 1978-1981 They were on the same level as Van Halen and Cheap Trick, But I Just think they weren't good past Drive, Anyways The only really thing I've heard is The Ric Ocasek works With Weezer (BTW Did they Rip off The VH logo.) Who obviously have the Cars sound. Anyway I am just curious If anyone else like them.