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    Slash appreciation thread.

    OK, before now I had a little trouble with this. Out of all the people who ever played Marshall amps Slash was the first guy they ever endorsed? I didn't understand it at the time. Let's call tonight another brick in the wall of understanding. Seeing him play the awesome Guns songs, coupled with his solo stuff and Velvet Revolver he REALLY kicked my behind. And kicked it HARD. Dude was GREAT and so was Miles Kennedy. Video is from my camera.

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    When you're sillouette is recognizeable, you know you're an icon.

    I like Slash's playing for a lot of reasons: 1) he had the confidence not to be an Eddie clone in the 80s and do his own thing; 2) he knows when not to play, and that less is sometimes more 3) he is from the Angus Young belt 'em out school of guitar playing and 4) he'w written some epic riffs, when he often doesn't get credit for.
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    I just went for one and it was quite satisfying.
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    saul has to be in the 'great guitarists' category.

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    Sorry guys I just don't see the greatness... not saying he's a hack by any means... he's a very good hard rock guitar player.

    The best way to describe it is he's the cream of the crop at playing generic hard rock... but there's no definitive style, signature sound/tone or anything really remarkable that makes him stand out... beyond the hat. My take he's like the guys who are excellent guitar players in thousands of rock cover bands... can hit the right notes, bends, quick runs, etc... but never produce anything remotely original.

    I think he just showed up in the wrong decade... had he been around in the 70's he would of ranked at the top in hard rock. He just showed up 18 years too late...
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    I know what you mean about traditional stlye - i.e. blues rock - but I think it's unfair to say there's no unique style or tone. You KNOW that sound in 2 bars, the tone is so distinctive. As for style, 'Sweet Child O'Mine' - THAT riff? It's putting a spin on the tradition, you know.

    I think it's easy to get carried away with the term 'Great'. No-one would list Slash as the greatest/most influential player - and he's clearly embaraased when people do - but he's quite an axeman, and the energy he brings is unreal.

    To me, however, what marks him out is emotion - the lead work on 'Estranged' cuts right through me.

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    for my own sanity i try to divide these things up in to guitarist or song writer ... slash plays blues rock and and no offence his stuff has been all heard before .. am not saying thats bad he just isnt an innovator . Were he does come up smelling of roses ( pun intended) is his songs and riffs he has written some great tunes ... to joe shmo who heard of slash cos of guitar hero he is great, to most of us who play or a listen to more than your average ammount of music have a better understanding of where he sits ....... And this is from experience of many a slash is the greatest guitarist ever argument from people who only own g&r greatest hits......... and dont get me started on the famous vai vs angus young blood bath we had a couple of years ago in the pub were i managed to argue both sides and still lose.
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    All SLASH needed was a singer who was better than average now he has Miles Kennedy, I think they sound great together. Looking forward to listen to their music in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by So this is love View Post
    All SLASH needed was a singer who was better than average now he has Miles Kennedy, I think they sound great together. Looking forward to listen to their music in the future.
    Playing here tomorrow..kennedy has a great voice slash great guitarist .

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    Quote Originally Posted by So this is love View Post
    All SLASH needed was a singer who was better than average now he has Miles Kennedy, I think they sound great together. Looking forward to listen to their music in the future.
    The album is out May 21st (welll, the Classic Rock 'Fan Pack' edition with the magazine/extra goodies is). I'm hoping it's decent because Miles has a hell of a set of pipes - I just wonder if Slash actually needs a bit of antagonism to produce his best stuff......

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    Slash Appreciation thread? You're just joking, right?
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    As long as Slash continues to play with Miles kennedy Velvet Revolver will remain officially dead. He's not going to Join VR and it doesnt seem like Slash is too concerned with finding a replacement singer for the band.
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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    The album is out May 21st (welll, the Classic Rock 'Fan Pack' edition with the magazine/extra goodies is). I'm hoping it's decent because Miles has a hell of a set of pipes - I just wonder if Slash actually needs a bit of antagonism to produce his best stuff......
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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthcoming View Post
    As long as Slash continues to play with Miles kennedy Velvet Revolver will remain officially dead. He's not going to Join VR and it doesnt seem like Slash is too concerned with finding a replacement singer for the band.
    If I were Slash I would stick with Miles Kennedy and forget about VR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by So this is love View Post
    If I were Slash I would stick with Miles Kennedy and forget about VR.
    I think he already has.

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    Look at it like this: will he make much more money in VR than on his own? Probably not, so why go through the hassle.

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    I appreciate Slash
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    This thread made me delve back into my collection.

    A few thoughts:

    1) The second Slash's Snakepit album - 'Ain't Life Grand' - is an under-appreciated classic which rocks like a hooker on meth. Fucking dirty, dirty, nasty rock 'n' roll delivered through great, great songs. I reviewed in the 'Album Reviews' thread a while back, but every time I hear it I'm always struck by how good it is.

    2) The central riff in 'Coma' is epic. That really was something of a masterpiece for Guns.....

    3) Velvet Revolver never worked with a producer who knew how to capture guitar tones.

    4) The little acoustic tune with Rob Del Luca on Slash's first solo CD is probably the best thing on it.

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    i'll say again.. one of the all time greats at any paradigm of comparison. Zah nailed it... if the dude was hitting his straps in 1969, he could've out jimi'd jimi.

    or not.

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    Innovator ? Nope. Great guitarist ? Hell yes ! Great tone & at least a couple dozen great songs in alot of different styles. I love his playing. You could make an argument to put him in the top 20 easy. Robert Johnson, Albert King, hell all the Kings, Hendrix, Eddie. After that for me it's a free for all for picking. Rhoads & Tommy Bolin come to mind for me.
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    From what I've heard of his post GNR work, his solo stuff pisses all over Velvet Revolver who I always found totally mediocre. Maybe VR have some hidden gems but I had lost interest by that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    From what I've heard of his post GNR work, his solo stuff pisses all over Velvet Revolver who I always found totally mediocre. Maybe VR have some hidden gems but I had lost interest by that point.
    Mediocre ? I think they are both strong ! Alot of it is down the same avenue though. There is no reason to go back to that band with a different singer though. Just do the solo stuff. His new dvd is fantastic. Great band & Myles is a great singer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    From what I've heard of his post GNR work, his solo stuff pisses all over Velvet Revolver who I always found totally mediocre. Maybe VR have some hidden gems but I had lost interest by that point.
    I'd have to agree - although I think 'mediocre' is a little harsh.

    I wrote a review of the first VR record in which I essentially said that the legacy of the members was crucial towards my attitude: 'I like this, even though I know a lot of it is not terribly good'.

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    Is there a huge difference between 'not terribly good' and 'mediocre'?

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    I think slash should keep Miles kennedy,Bring Duff and Matt Sorum back and be Velvet Revolver mark 2 or something.It feel's odd saying the new Slash DVD as opposed to saying the new insert band name here one.

    Well what i really think is Slash should get back with Axl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Is there a huge difference between 'not terribly good' and 'mediocre'?
    Yes: one is said by a fan; the other by an observer

    I think what I'd say is this: VR failed - almost inevitably - to live up to expectations, but they were never 'average'. 'Patchy', certainly, but not average or mediocre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Bitch View Post
    I think slash should keep Miles kennedy,Bring Duff and Matt Sorum back and be Velvet Revolver mark 2 or something.It feel's odd saying the new Slash DVD as opposed to saying the new insert band name here one.

    Well what i really think is Slash should get back with Axl
    I definitely think Slash/Matt/Duff should continue to work together. Myles is terrific, but I think Slash might be better with someone who has a less showy voice.

    I actually thought that Ian Astbury did the best job (or the hard rockers) on the first solo record. A more gritty voice suits Slash's sound.

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    Yeah but does Slash want to work with a singer who is a prick again?

    I think he's already done his fair share of that...

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    Slash should hook up with Duff and Matt and John Corabi in for vocals and rhythm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Yeah but does Slash want to work with a singer who is a prick again?

    I think he's already done his fair share of that...
    I think that plays a huge role in his decision to work with Miles.

    Shit, when you're pushing 50 why would you want the hassle....

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    I don't know if it was deliberate or just shear fucking stupidity but at the Cult gig here last year Astbury almost managed to turn a hugely enthusiastic positive crowd against them by being incredibly obnoxious in between songs.

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    In what way?

    (I'm quite jealous: I've never seen The Cult).

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    Thought i had to share this clip of slash.Made me spit my coffee out laughing .They actually have to get the tech's to come and say "ok slash,reel it in buddy".


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    I just picked up his new CD. Great stuff. Myles is a good singer. If you like rock straight up and of course Slash pick it up. Love it. LOUD HELPED ! New Bonnamassa is up next.

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    I listened to the samples of it online and was pretty impressed. I am thinking I am going to own it.

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    Will be picking it up on Saturday.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    Will be picking it up on Saturday.....
    can't wait to read your review...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    I don't know if it was deliberate or just shear fucking stupidity but at the Cult gig here last year Astbury almost managed to turn a hugely enthusiastic positive crowd against them by being incredibly obnoxious in between songs.
    hey sesh, i've noticed that you've related other incidences of bands treating you shabbily. are the people in your part of the world mostly friendly?

    or is it like torquay, and there's a lot of basils?

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    Quote Originally Posted by binnie View Post
    In what way?

    (I'm quite jealous: I've never seen The Cult).
    "Oooch aye the noo Glasgow. Yeeeee ken am Scottish ta ma gran is from Glusga."

    Between every song in an accent that would have made Scotty from Star Trek or Russ Abbot blush.

    It wasn't just the put on accent it was pricky chat too. I'm not totally sure if he was a just dick trying to be friendly, or deliberately trying to be a smartass but it definitely came across as the later to me, the people I was with and much of the audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashstralia View Post
    hey sesh, i've noticed that you've related other incidences of bands treating you shabbily. are the people in your part of the world mostly friendly?

    or is it like torquay, and there's a lot of basils?
    Definitely friendly with a little belligerence and used by many international bands and comedians for live recordings over the years.

    Maybe its an age thing but I don't take well to bands fucking around with the audience these days if nothing else because they are charging a lot of money now, half of us have had to go to a lot of hassle with babysitters, work, or whatever to struggle out and lets face it very few of the artists are still at the peak of their abilities.

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