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Tuning is a major part of it but also you have to hit the strings the way Keef does. You have to play over that back pickup. With Eddie I learned you really have to whack the hell out of the strings when you do the hammer ons. He does it effortlessly and it doesn't look like he is hitting the strings hard but he is. To get the sound you have to whack the bugger. Actually playing slap funk on a bass helped me figure out some on Eddie's playing techniques. It finally hit me a lot of what he does is slap funk on a guitar.
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We play 3 Stones covers with my band during gigs, between our own tunes. The lead guitarist uses a guitar he specially uses for "Brown Sugar", in open G. We also do "Get off of my Cloud" and "Sympathy for the Devil" (I wish we'd play "Crazy Mama", "Before they make me run", "If you can't rock me" or "Happy" instead, but the others will go "we'd better play the tunes everybody knows by ear" - they rather know little about good old stuff in France and Switzerland, apart from end-aisle display - which pisses me as what I think we should do is play what we feel like playing first and foreall), but I think on the latter two both our guitar players play normally tuned.
I remember back in the late 70s, early 80s when I started digging the Stones a damn lot, I thought they played a little out of tune but loved it.
Later, when I heard about Keith playing open tunings inspired by high time blues artists, I loved the Stones' music even more.
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Today's tweet: "Five days and counting," along with a "live" version of Doom and Gloom:
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and now
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dates so far... I was already planning to be in Toronto that weekend! For once something goes right!
TBA Los Angeles STAPLES Center TBA
May 5 Oakland Oracle Arena On sale April 8 @ 10AM PST
May 8 San Jose HP Pavilion On sale April 8 @ 10AM PST
May 11 Las Vegas MGM Grand Garden Arena TBA
May 15 Anaheim Honda Center TBA
May 25 Toronto Air Canada Centre On sale April 8 @ 10AM EST
May 28 Chicago United Center On sale April 8 @ 10AM CST
June 12 Boston TD Garden TBA
June 18 Philadelphia Wells Fargo Center TBA
Still the best PR stunt....
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So 2 dates in the LA area, and 2 dates in the Bay Area.....
Uh, what about the other half of the West Coast??
Fuck it.... Guess I'll just watch my bootleg of the PayPer View show again.
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Looks like there are plenty of gaps of time between " official " dates . I get the feeling they will fill those in as the Stones tour monster gains momentum . Seems like this is the pattern for most recent Stones tours . Announce a few scattered " official " dates to stir up interest and plug in the holes with the highest bidders , logistics not withstanding .
Naturally they will cash in like a sonuvabitch . Trust me when I tell ya I would sell my first born to see this show . Fortunately I don't have kids so I guess multiple trips to the bloodbank will have to do .
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Satisfaction! Going to first TO show!
And I gotta say...the Stones fansites' forums (Shidoobee and IORR) SUCK. What a couple of fucking messes.
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Brilliant interview with Charlie in today's Guardian newspaper:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/apr/04/charlies-watts-rolling-stones-drummer-interview
He doesn't like playing outdoors 'cos the wind fucks with his cymbals; doesn't want to play Glastonbury 'cos he never liked hippes ...
I know, Charlie. I hate festivals as well, and I'm still in my 40s. What a pain in the arse it must be when you are in your 70s.
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And he doesn't have to sit in traffic or in the crowd like the rest of us do!
I always like the post-show fireworks as a diversionary tactic to get the band out of the building.
Showed up way early before the Licks tour show and saw the motorcade come in. That was pretty cool.
All tickets for Hyde Park were sold in less than 3 minutes today...
Fuck. Between £95 and £300...
I'll keep happy with my '69 Hyde Park video.
And to think they played FOR FREE back in the day...
Chicago gets a third show...and today was only the presales.
Gotta check if I can get the day off for the second TO show. Not the first time I've been up and back twice in a week or so.
No shit... as much of a Stones fan as I am, I could never stand more than 5 minutes of those sites. Though IORR used to be a pretty good source of finding bootlegs, but then that got outsourced to a Yahoo e mail list that got corrupted with spammers, so that was the end of that.
Keith documentary in case you missed it.
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Mick Taylor will be special guesting on the whole tour...
No Wyman?
I'll still buy the DVD
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Wyman didn't even play the NY gigs last year. Apparently he's only interested if he can drive to the gig in his own car.
But then he's 76 years old, so it's not surprising that he doesn't want to travel much.
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Friend of mine met Mick yesterday at the rehearsal studio in Burbank....
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Yeah I've read that Wyman isn't interested in flying any more.
I've heard Bootsy Collins and Aretha Franklin don't like flying, either.
By the sounds of this, Gwen Stefani wasn't only dressed up like 1972, but she found Keef's heroin stash from that year and shot up all of it. God damn, did she ever fuck up the lyrics or what??
LOS ANGELES, May 4 (Reuters) - The Rolling Stones rocked a packed house in Los Angeles on Friday on the opening night of their North American "50 and Counting" tour, but only after websites slashed ticket prices and the band released additional cheap seats at the last minute.
The 17-date tour is the veteran British rockers' biggest in six years and follows a handful of dates in London, Paris and New York at the end of 2012 marking 50 years since they burst on to the music scene at London's Marquee Club in 1962.
"We first played LA in 1965. Thank you for coming to see us. We really appreciate it," frontman Mick Jagger said late on Friday during the show at Staples Center.
The 69-year-old strutted and gyrated in his trademark style through a string of classic Stones hits including "Gimme Shelter," "Paint it Black" and "Jumpin' Jack Flash."
Celebrities like Jack Nicholson and Melanie Griffith attended the show, which also featured guest performances by singer Gwen Stefani on "Wild Horses" and Keith Urban on "Respectable."
Days before the show, hundreds of seats were still available and secondary sellers scrambled to unload tickets by slashing prices from the original $250 to $600 price range which had irked many of even the most die-hard Stones fans.
The band also released additional seats at a modest $85 on its official website this week, the only price point that quickly sold out for the May 3 concert.
Buyers who opted to buy the $85 seats online were instructed to line up at the arena just before the show, and were told they would be notified of their locations which could range anywhere for prime seating to further back in the venue.
"It's very thrilling. It's like gambling and the Stones all rolled into one," said Los Angeles realtor Kelley Miller, who had bought a pair of $85 seats along with some friends, and stood in line to find out where they would be sitting.
Miller and her friends said they were happy to be seated anywhere at that price.
SATISFACTION
Among the highlights of the evening were the show's opening number "Satisfaction", performed by the UCLA Marching Band and the Stones' rendition of "You Can't Always Get What You Want," accompanied by the Cal State Long Beach Cole Conservatory choir.
The Rolling Stones last went on tour from 2005 to 2007, playing 144 shows globally and grossing more than $550 million, one of the world's most lucrative tours.
Guitarist Mick Taylor, who played with the Stones from 1969 to 1974, sat in on Friday to join Jagger, guitarists Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood and drummer Charlie Watts during "Midnight Rambler."
Later this summer, The Rolling Stones will play London's Hyde Park, and for the first time in their career, the Glastonbury music festival in England, both of which sold out.
The band played a more reasonably priced $20 "surprise" gig in Los Angeles the previous weekend at the 320 person capacity Echoplex club.
But even fans who coughed up the $600 asking price for the Friday night show seemed to find satisfaction.
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Last I checked the cheapest seats on StubHub in Philly were priced at $280, so that's not happening for me. Glad I saw them in 2005. Of course the date is still a month and a half out so I'd have to think it'll come down as the date draws closer.
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Clean out your ears from that noise with some real Stones.......
Stones & Stevie???
Hey Ford, do they ever toss Under My Thumb into the set list? Once in the late 90's I saw them at Qualcomm Stadium and the had an open song spot. The big screens went to a voting webpage and we all got to see what the fans voted on for the free slot on the set list. It was Under My Thumb. So good live. But out of 4 or 5 times I've seen them I think it's the only time they played that song.
So many songs to choose from that inevitably some classics get left off or else the show would be 6 hours long.
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This didn't make the "official" live album/DVD from the 78 tour, unfortunately......
Under My Thumb was the standard opening number for the entire 1981/82 world tour. I don't think it's been in the regular set list since then, but I'm sure I've heard a more recent version. Probably from one of those internet votes like you mentioned.
Here's the most recent performance I can find, from the Bridges to Babylon tour in 1997 (Soldier Field, Chicago)
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Ah, finally found the "finished" version of "Strictly Memphis".....
Why the Hell didn't they release this? It's easily better than 2/3 of Dirty Work!
Early take of Honky Tonk Women here. Note the different lyrics in the second verse. And this would be before Mick Taylor joined the band and added his part to the solo.
Moon is up
The sun is down
You can't have it both ways round
Ooh babe, won't you listen to me
We are worlds apart, you see
Where are you now
Crying out loud
Where did you go
When I needed you?
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They jammed on something like 12 songs with MT at the rehearsal studio, then only let him play one when they played the Staples Center.
Keith Urban got up and played a tune with the band, but did not destroy the song like that Gwen bitch did.
Due to the high prices, they are having bargain basement sales on 85 dollar tickets.
So many tickets went unsold at the asking price, they dumped thousands of them in L.A. for 85 bucks.
The 50th Anniversary Stones Clearance Sale.
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