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Rikk (08-30-2023)
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So predictably, the countdown date is probably for the release of a single, with the album to follow a month or two later. Or at least that's how they usually do it. And of course that conveniently drops the album right in time for the Xmas shopping season.
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What Stones fan cannot resist hearing the new Justin Bieber record with Mick and Keith playing on it?
A real banger from fart nozzles in their 80s.
The last Stones album that was good from start-to-finish was Tattoo You, and even that album - now over 40 years old - had old tracks (some going back as far as 1973) reworked.
The follow-up, Undercover, had one good track, the title track. The rest was substandard.
I remember buying and listening to Steel Wheels a lot in the month or so running up to the concert I saw on that tour. Couple of so-so tracks. Haven't listened to it (or even had the desire to) in decades.
I also remember the next album after Steel Wheels getting a lot of favorable reviews when it first came out. Bought that, listened to it a bunch, was basically as weak as Steel Wheels only with more songs.
Think I've listened to...what the fuck were they?...Bridges To Babylon and A Bigger Bang a few times each. Nothing memorable or anything I'd want to hear again off of those.
Far as albums, the Stones had a pretty long run (for a rock and roll band, anyway) of putting out good ones. From Beggar's Banquet to Tattoo You, so a good 12 years. But, yeah, it's been over 40 years since they've put out a good one. Can't even say I'll be bothered wanting to hear this new one.
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Kristy (08-31-2023)
Yup.
START ME UP: Outtake from SOME GIRLS sessions (one quick rock take of the song before it went reggae...see very good DELUXE edition of this album).
HANG FIRE: SOME GIRLS outtake.
SLAVE: BLACK 'N' BLUE outtake.
LITTLE T&A: EMOTIONAL RESCUE outtake.
BLACK LIMOUSINE: EMOTIONAL RESCUE outtake...first tried out during GOAT'S HEAD SOUP sessions.
NEIGHBOURS: *One of only two new songs on the album.
WORRIED ABOUT YOU: BLACK 'N' BLUE outtake.
TOPS: GOAT'S HEAD SOUP outtake.
HEAVEN: *Other new song on the album.
NO USE IN CRYING: EMOTIONAL RESCUE outtake.
WAITING ON A FRIEND: GOAT'S HEAD SOUP outtake.
Whole of side one of that record sucks dead platypus balls.
If your weren't such a conservative anti-drug, pro "Just say, 'Blow me'" Reganite you would know the importance of drugs and side two of that album.
But you'll never know.
Rikk (08-31-2023)
I don't know about the album but for the record I can confirm that the male platypus does have balls although they are internal as it his penis most of the time.
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Side 2 I grew to appreciate more as the years passed. Tops is still a bit weaker than the rest of the side to my ears.
Side 1 has tracks I tended to listen to less as the years passed. Black Limousine far as the backing track goes is too pedestrian, Stones-wise. Neighbours tends to grate on me these days.
Maybe Mick, Keef and Kristy have this life hack figured out
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Last edited by Mushroom; 08-31-2023 at 08:24 PM.
See this is the problem with your boring Boomer generation. Not one of you knows where side 2 of Tattoo You is coming from.
I think I'm falling in love with you.
Today, I have to break the news to my wife that I want to leave her and my daughter for an online Rotharmy poster named Kristy who likes getting high to Side Two of TATTOO YOU.
When she gets angry, I'll tell her that although I'm "Worried About You", my online time with Kristy is Tops and makes me feel like I'm in Heaven. She'll get sad, but I'll assure her that there's No Use in Crying and that all this time I've been Waiting On a Friend.
Nickdfresh (09-01-2023)
Rikk, you forgot you are sacrificing your family for Little T&A
What will the Neighbours think?
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Rikk (09-01-2023)
Well...that is NOT Charlie. (They did say Charlie had recorded a few things before passing that they were going to use.) I guess that is Steve Jordan.
It sounds like standard latter-day Stones (DON'T STOP, RAIN WILL FALL)...but I can already tell that I'm going to miss Charlie's swing in his playing.
I am intrigued that McCartney is on at least one track. (Possibly Ringo too, so the rumor goes.)
I've been listening to a lot of albums I personally love by The Stones in the last couple of years, especially with the most excellent reissues (with finished outtakes, Mick doing new vocals in some cases...y'know, how Van Halen SHOULD be doing it.) And I've probably, by doing this, set my standards too high. There's no way they can make albums with the kind of grit, danger and inspired roots sounds they did in the late-60s & 1970s. Besides the obvious classics from the 1968-1972 period (when they really had a right to call themselves "the greatest rock 'n' roll band in the world), I've been enjoying:
. GOAT'S HEAD SOUP
. IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N' ROLL
. BLACK 'N' BLUE (some people bitch about this album, but I love it)
. EMOTIONAL RESCUE (I like it more than SOME GIRLS...attack me all you want)
. TATTOO YOU (outtakes from the previously-mentioned albums)
And I know, there's no way they could make albums like these again. But...who knows? Since they've been in the studio, mixing & overdubbing outtakes from almost all of these albums in recent years, maybe some of the excellence on these tapes could rub off on them when it comes to making new songs. But I doubt it.
People say there hasn't been good new Stones music in decades...but if one listens to all the amazing leftovers from EXILE, GOAT'S, SOME GIRLS (not as many great outtakes from this set, but some good stuff) and in the new TATTOO YOU set, I would argue that we're getting more good "new" Stones music in recent years than in the decades before it.
I'll get the new Stones album. I have everything else they've ever released. But I'll get more excited when they finally put together a box set from IT'S ONLY ROCK 'N' ROLL or BLACK 'N' BLUE...or even an EMOTIONAL RESCUE box set. There are still a ton of good outtakes from those albums (in rough versions) floating around on bootleg or YouTube.
By the way, the recent CD/Blu-Ray release, GRRR Live!, was truly excellent. While the band hasn't made a good studio album in ages, they've still had some good concerts. And this 2012 concert from New Jersey is really pretty great. It's not 1972 level live Stones, but the evening I spent in my home theater blasting this was most enjoyable.
The version of MIDNIGHT RAMBLER they play with Mick Taylor guesting on guitar is truly stunning...one of the best versions of this song they ever did (and I'm a huge GET YER YA-YA'S OUT fan).
I don't really see the connection. I do agree that the new album will probably be typical newer Stones, sub-par to the MAX.
But the gap between classic Stones and latter-day Stones is nowhere near as big as the gap between Dave Van Halen and Hagar Van Halen. I can't believe the same band (although, it's really not) made both WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIRST and FOR UNLAWFUL CARNAL KNOWLEDGE. One album is mind-blowingly awesome and the other is pure mediocrity & embarrassing.
Also, it's not fair to lump The Stones in with Van Halen when it comes to how they treat their legacy. The Stones have released a ton of CDs & Blu-Rays of unreleased live shows, remastered/remixed very well. They've also released excellent box sets of a lot of their classic albums with some excellent, newly-finished outtakes from these albums.
Meanwhile, Van Halen have a spoiled, fat rich kid as their ambassador, proudly telling fans "don't hold your breath" to hear anything from the archives. They hate their fans.
The Stones are way better to hardcore fans than Van Halen are.
I know the late night shows are off due to the writers strike, but they couldn't find anyone better than Jimmy Fallon?
Rolling Stones LIVE with Jimmy Fallon
Wednesday Sept 6th
Streaming globally on Stones YouTube
2.30PM BST / 6.30AM PST / 9.30AM EST / 10.30AM BR / 3.30PM CET / 10.30PM JST / 11.30PM AEST
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Worse - it will be Fallon without his writers.![]()
FORD (09-05-2023),Terry (09-08-2023),twonabomber (09-04-2023)
Kimmel is the best of the three, followed by Colbert. Fallon is rarely funny (although his "early versions" of songs series is hilarious).
I agree, though...they really couldn't find anyone better? Maybe they chose him because he's a good ass-kisser.
Terry (09-08-2023)
Hard to say definitively from such a short clip, but this might be a reworking of a song called "Nobody's Perfect" which was originally recorded for Dirty Work in the mid 80s. Didn't make the album, and wasn't even known in bootleg circles until that three disc set "Fully Finished Outtakes" came out in 2021.
Whether it is or isn't the same song, at least they got a better guitar sound on the new version. Just a fucking shame it ain't Charlie on the drums![]()
Please let it be noted: slave FORD has now proven that the Stones are all out of riffage.
At least Charlie knew when to quit.
The Stones have been re-inventing, revisiting, and updating songs for their entire career. Nothing new there. The song "Winter" on Goats Head Soup began as a drunken incoherent mess of a song called "Blood Red Wine" in 1968. Yeah, that was 5 years, compared to 37 years between Dirty Work and now... But if you consider how few albums the Stones have done in the last few decades, it's about an equivalent time span, in terms of studio time....
You try writing songs for 60+ years and see how many ideas you come up with. Only so many chords out there. Just have to figure out how to put them together.
God damn it. Looks like I'm going to have to school you again.
For once, the Stones did not write songs for over 60 years. Their last original material was back in 2005 over 18 years ago. Their early days were mostly covers with Keith ripping off Chuck Berry and Mick thinking he was James Fucking Brown. They are limeys after all. A lot of their shit was sub-par studio noodling leaving it up to a better producer to make some sense of Mick and Keith lazy songwriting. This is why Ron Wood was brought to remain an unaccredited writer until Mick and Keith fucked him out of royalties. Keith himself is so fucking lazy he hired Steve Jordan to finish the god damn songs for him! The Stones' 80's and 90's output was largely shit of forgettable exhausting songs that nobody wants to hear. Nobody.
Just another forgettable bag of shit record like 'Blue And Lonesome" coming your way.
While we're keeping score on who is cool here when it comes to the Stones let's look at the latest tally, shall we?
Kristy: 845,984,211 plus to the power of 100 billion
slave FORD: Negative past infinity
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