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  • FORD
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    • Jan 2004
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    • FORD
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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32798

        Originally posted by Jack68


        Id love to sit behind this guy at a show and watch him play.
        Charlie Watts is one of my favorite drummers. I love how he's dynamic and interacts with the rest of the band instead of just laying a beat down. I love his fills.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • FORD
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          • Jan 2004
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          Originally posted by Nitro Express
          Charlie Watts is one of my favorite drummers. I love how he's dynamic and interacts with the rest of the band instead of just laying a beat down. I love his fills.
          In Charlie's own words, he "follows" Keith, and that's the foundation of the Stones sound. It also explains some of the train wrecks on their 75/76 tour when Keef's heroin addiction was at its worst, because he fucked up, which caused Charlie to fuck up, and that derailed the whole thing.

          Charlie's a jazz drummer at heart, who just ended up playing for 50 years in the world's greatest rock n roll band. Probably aren't many rock drummers out there that were playing jazz first. Alex Van Halen, maybe, when he and Ed used to play with their dad as kids.

          Ironic that they're two of my favorite drummers, considering I've never been a huge fan of jazz myself.
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          • Zing!
            Veteran
            • Oct 2011
            • 2363

            Don't know if this has been mentioned here already, but I heard on the radio last night that the four remaining Stones are planning on meeting in the next couple of weeks to hammer out details for their 50th anniversary tour. DJ said the rumor is there will only be about 18 dates in the US. I'm thinking of taking my 9-year-old to this one, just so she can say she saw The Rolling Stones (if I can convince mom to let me spend $250 for nosebleed tickets...)
            My karma just ran over your dogma.

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            • FORD
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              • Jan 2004
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              • FORD
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                • Jan 2004
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                • FORD
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                  • Jan 2004
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                  "Maybe if we just slowed that one down a little......"

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                  • FORD
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                    • Jan 2004
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                    Keef plays the blues.....

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                    • envy_me
                      Swedish Love Pump
                      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 7180

                      This guy does a great Keith

                      The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32798

                        Keefs Fender twins. Charlie and Keef stick with the same gear and use it forever.



                        Are the speakers JBL's?



                        I've been chasing Keef's tone since 1979. It never was the Beetles for me as a kid. It was The Rolling Stones. I had a Rolling Stones sticker on my skateboard. I can remember being little and hearing Satisfaction on the radio and I was hooked. I like how Keef's guitar tech says getting the tone is illusive. That's damn straight. Unless you get that tone close the Rolling Stones songs you play just sound wrong. There is only one Rolling Stones. Nobody can copy them.
                        Last edited by Nitro Express; 03-24-2013, 03:02 PM.
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                        • Terry
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 11957

                          Originally posted by FORD
                          In Charlie's own words, he "follows" Keith, and that's the foundation of the Stones sound. It also explains some of the train wrecks on their 75/76 tour when Keef's heroin addiction was at its worst, because he fucked up, which caused Charlie to fuck up, and that derailed the whole thing.

                          Charlie's a jazz drummer at heart, who just ended up playing for 50 years in the world's greatest rock n roll band. Probably aren't many rock drummers out there that were playing jazz first. Alex Van Halen, maybe, when he and Ed used to play with their dad as kids.

                          Ironic that they're two of my favorite drummers, considering I've never been a huge fan of jazz myself.
                          Thing I dig about Watts (someone else mentioned Phil Rudd, and they're exactly right) is how he serves the song first. Always has. It takes a degree of discipline to serve the song, and not use the song as a vehicle primarily for showing everyone how bitchin' of a musician one is.
                          Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                          • ThrillsNSpills
                            ROTH ARMY ELITE
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 6626

                            Originally posted by FORD
                            In Charlie's own words, he "follows" Keith, and that's the foundation of the Stones sound. .
                            It's the best dynamic. It wouldn't be the Stones without Charlie. Keith doesn't work with slouches in his solo stuff, but the groove doesn't breathe as much since the chemistry is so different.

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32798

                              Here's an example of a total wanker drummer. "Look at me! I'm a drumming god!"

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                              • ThrillsNSpills
                                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 6626

                                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                                I've been chasing Keef's tone since 1979. It never was the Beetles for me as a kid. It was The Rolling Stones. Unless you get that tone close the Rolling Stones songs you play just sound wrong. There is only one Rolling Stones. Nobody can copy them.
                                Keith staggers the beat in his rhythm playing, sometimes hitting the chord just a little bit later than anybody else would in the context of the four-count. Listening to his phrasing and dynamics is just as important as using the Fender amp. It's attention to detail. I guess the best example of this off the top of my head is the intro to Monkey Man, during and after the piano arpeggios as it builds to the main riff. Not as much what he does but how he does it. Great tension building.
                                Same thing with the guitar part to Can't You Hear me Knockin with him playing slightly off the beat, but incredibly effective.

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