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    Lightbulb 1984 by Malcolm Dome

    From CLASSIC ROCK Issue #64 March 2004

    For those who missed it the first time around.......


    It was VANCOUVER, MAY 1984, and VAN HALEN were in town One of the biggest bands in the world; their commercial powers, it would seem, having reached hithero uncharted heights. A moment in history. Yet also a somewhat surprising turning point: not so much the triumph of the band as the dominance of an individual. It was here that I first realized Van Halen simply could not go forward as they were, because DAVID LEE ROTH was effortlessly casting a shadow over their future.

    I was in town to spend some time with Swiss cuckoos Krokus as they worked with producer Bruce Fairbairn on their new album "The Blitz". I was on assignment for KERRANG! which of itself meant there was a problem when the Krokus caucus mentioned that we were all going to see VAN HALEN on May 1st at the Pacific Coliseum. Why? Kerrang! had just published a gossipy, throwaway story of DAVID LEE ROTH's alleged antics with Alex Van Halen's wife on the latter's wedding night, and how Eddie Van Halen had mistakenly thought we'd been referring to shenanigans between Diamond Dave and his own wife, and...well, the whole thing got messy, leading to reports reaching then Kerrang! editor Geoff Barton that ANY Van Halen welcome for Kerrang! could certainly be warm---too warm.

    So I shuffled along to the show, disguised in the office executive beard and shades, hoping the "K" word wouldn't pass anyone's lips in the wrong company. BUt by the end of the night, that was the last thing on my mind. I was simply stunned by two things: firstly, the astonishing, hysterical reaction VAN HALEN received from the 20,000 crazy Canadians. And, secondly, how Van HAlen live had become the all-singing, all-dancing DAVID LEE ROTH circus. On stage, Diamond Dave dominated, as the other band members shrank ever more into the background. PArt Chaplin, part Nureyev, part Elvis, part BUgs Bunny, Roth left everyone dumbfounded with his charisma, control, energy and nerve. It was, I mumbled to Krokus vocalist Marc Storace, as if we'd just witnessed a DAVID LEE ROTH solo performance. We were heading backstage at the time, both of us all too aware that walls have ears, as do attentive security hogs, so we were careful not to voice such opinions too vociferously for fear of upsetting the Van Halen brothers and bassist michael Anthony, the other three quarters of the band who, that fateful evening, seemed to represent only about 20% of the whole.

    But if what had paraded on stage was effectively an ersatz band, that was nothing when compared to the sight that greeted us backstage. IN what had been designated a "party zone", Roth had set up speakers in each corner of the room and was acting as MC, DJ, barman and general Bon Viveur. Roth chose the music---which proved to be a broad cross-section of sounds old nad new---and was loudly demanding everyone's attention. Scantily-clad young ladies flossed in and out of the room; before being whisked off into a far-flung corner. Drinks were flowing at a frightening rate, with bottles of Jack Daniel's being knocked back as if a flotilla of thirsty vampires had just discovered bourbon was a damned sight better for the complextion than rhesus negative. And through it all, Roth simply did what he did(what he does?) best: commandeered the spotlight. The man was an in-your-face persona on stilts in a room full of shy, retiring metaphorical dwarves.


    So far, so predictable. But this was far from a happy camp. Drummer Alex Van Halen wasn't anywhere to be seen; he never even made a fleeting diplomatic appearance. Micheal Anthony came into the room for all of 30 seconds, flashing a smile that was about as sunny as Bolton on a January afternoon. And Eddie Van Halen sat in one corner, huddled over a drink of indeterminate vintage, while occasionally muttering to band manager Noel Monk. Was this really a band that had just taken the mainstream by the seat of its pants and given it a severe hard rocking? Why was it that only Roth looked as if he was having a ball?(and after all, I suppose it was his ball.)

    After about 45 minutes of watching the Roth cavalcade in full swing, I ambled nonchalantly over (well, as nonchalantly as one can when backstage with a band whose very name dripped with gold and platinum discs) and talked briefly to Eddie Van Halen. The conversation went something like this:

    "Hello Eddie. You must be pleased with tonight's show?"

    "Yeah."

    "Great crowd reaction."

    "hmmmm."

    "Interesting stage set."

    Shrug of the shoulders.

    "Are you coming over to tour the UK this time?"

    "Dunno. Depends on the "walking ego"..."

    At this point Noel Monk jumped into the conversation, fully aware that the "walking ego" description was aimed in Roth's direction and anxious to deflect any damage; it was tantamount to washing dirty spandex in a very public situation. But Eddie's comment was the only time in this rather one-sided 'chat' that the guitarist had been anything other than indifferent. And it immediately cemented my belief that here was a band on the verge of a seismic split. Soon after, Eddie made his excuses and left the party."


    Stay tuned.......

    To be continued........very soon.........

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    Good stuff. Give us more!

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    Re: 1984 by Malcolm Dome

    Originally posted by Matt White
    From CLASSIC ROCK Issue #64 March 2004

    Drinks were flowing at a frightening rate, with bottles of Jack Daniel's being knocked back as if a flotilla of thirsty vampires had just discovered bourbon was a damned sight better for the complextion than rhesus negative. And through it all, Roth simply did what he did(what he does?) best: commandeered the spotlight. The man was an in-your-face persona on stilts in a room full of shy, retiring metaphorical dwarves. [/I]


    Fuckin right !

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    Looks like Ed is laughing at the bass players hair !
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    okay....round 2:


    Now here's where it gets a little conspiratorial. By now, only DAVE was left to entertain the mixed throng of hangers-on, groupies, record company types, the media, and Krokus. Presumably the others had vacated the building? But no.

    Outside in the lengthy corridor that led out of the venue and into reality, four limos were lined up, one for each member of VAN HALEN. I'd wandered out into this area looking for a loo, and surmised with a keen sense of deduction that, as the cars were still there the other members of the band must still be on the premises. So where were they? And it was possible they were having a clandestine meeting sans DLR, because they'd reached the end of their tether with the singer? I don't pretend to know the answer, but the vibe from Eddie Van Halen suggested that Vancouver had proved to be a turning point in the band's relationship with Roth.

    Did the vocalist care? Not a bit. Back in the party zone he seemed oblivious to any cloak-and -dagger tactics possibly being adopted by the others. And if anyone thought he was just a mouthy buffoon stewing in his own arrogance, then they were badly underestimating him.

    With hindsight, it was clear that DAVE had already marked out those members of the VAN HALEN circle he believed he could trust and who would form part of his inner enclave. bodyguards, assistants, roadies...the ones with him that night who weren't treating him as the singer with VAN HALEN but as DAVID LEE ROTH, a circus ringmaster supreme. Wether deliberately or not, Roth was definitely making moves toward separating himself from the Van Halen pack.

    As had been the case ever since the band first burst on the scene some six years previously, Roth was the man making decisions. And if the lifespan of VAN HALEN with him at the helm was about to expire, then that was because he'd decided to move on.

    Of course, as we all know, the "1984 album" and tour was to be the band's last with Roth. He used his subsequent debut solo record, the "Crazy From the Heat: EP, to distance himself from the mothership and go out on his own, looking to further his career both as a musician and entertainer. For a while Roth totally outflanked his erstwhile bandmates, as his garish videos and mega-watt personality promised to launch him on Hollywood.

    The rest is history, and chronicles a steady decline for the man who should have been king of all he surveyed. BUt failure was definitely not on the menu back in that May day two decades ago. Back in that Vancouver "party room" Roth didn't so much as grab your attention as grab it, shake it up and then toss it aside in favor of another plaything.

    But that was DAVID LEE ROTH: a man who never entered a room when he could just gust through it like a tornado that never blew itself out. And be sure of one thing, if my retrospective theorising about the state of VAN HALEN back then is correct: it was DAVE who manipulated the situation, not the others.

    Yes, it was Roth's game. HE decided when it it was time to change the rules."


    Okay...just a couple of thoughts of my own.....

    This guy was obliviously unaware of the chronic substance abuse by the sisters, and it's affect on the band.

    Also...the part about sizeing up who was gonna go with DAVE when he split....

    The ENTIRE VAN HALEN organization, except for AVH's drum roadie, went with DAVE. ALL the : Roadies, assistants, truckdrivers, gaffers, secretaries, lawyers, etc.....even EVH's guitar roadie went with DAVE.

    DAVE "manipulated the situation"? DAMN STRAIGHT.......cuz he's the man, and it was/is easy to see 99% of the VAN HALEN FAMILY knew it as well.


    And...lastly....a CLASSIC DAVE pic....seems the ladies in the audience kinda dig his chaps......Just so the next time some SHEEP Basturd wants to try and have fun at the Diamonds expense.....You WISH you were him you fucking weasels!!!!!

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    Oh yeah! Nice picture there!
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    Great shit Matt!

    Thanks for posting.
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    Super read! Thanks bro

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    Look at Al in the pic. Is it just me, or would he rather be the guitarist?
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    I didn't know that most of the people went with Dave.
    I enjoyed reading it.
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    Malcolm Dome is a HUGE Dave fan. Interesting stuff.

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    Kinda lends creedence to what Dave said about Ed having never been able to enjoy five minutes of his success; shit, the guy was on top of the world in 1984, yet still manages to find something (Roth, the 'walking ego') to bitch about.
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    Well, in every interview with people I have read about their dealings with Edward The Drunk MAN there are always situations like that.

    Fucking Ed crying like a baby because he does not know how to mix a great sounding record.

    Ed depressed and crying because he wins Guitarist Of The Year award 5 times in a row (which Val thought was cute).

    Always Ed stating "I don't deserve all this fame & glory", and bitching and moaning about Dave.

    If Ed had any sense whatsoever, he would have become the Yin to Dave's Yang.

    Lookit Tyler & Perry, Plant & Page, Jagger & Richards, etc.

    Ed is such a depressed, jealous, insecure fuck that he totally destroyed the band that was named after him!

    If he had one lick of sense he would have hung with Dave, and it might have been "Dave & Ed" holding court in the party room and being the life of the party.

    But nooooo....it is Ed the loser sitting in a corner bitching about Mr. Ego.

    At least Uncle Dave can walk the walk, and can hold his head high, knowing that his career was one of integrity, doing things on his own terms.

    Unlike Ed The Drunk, who sold out, greedily sucking the Corporate Cock, and then begging to get fucked in the ass by Warner Bros., until even THEY got tired of his stupidity.

    He ran off Dave with his negativity, Then Spambo The Flatulent, Then Gary, Then Dave AGAIN, then Spambo AGAIN.

    Why the fuck doesn't he just put himself out of his own misery and do like Kurt Kabang? Then he would be a legend even more so.

    And even he would admit he would then be in a better place and would not be suffering so much.
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    Originally posted by Hardrock69
    At least Uncle Dave can walk the walk, and can hold his head high, knowing that his career was one of integrity, doing things on his own terms.

    Like walking right out of Van Halen ??

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    What was the alternative? Take a year or three to write "Why Can't This Be Love"?!?

    Everything he's ever said about those clowns has panned out....

    Lazy, greedy, Petty, Substance abusers.....................

    I'm surprised it took him until '85 to walk..........

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    Oh, c'mon now Matt...

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    The writing was on the wall, King...........

    How good do those keyboard tunes sound now? 15-20 years down the road......

    DAVE was right...NOBODY wanted to see EVH's "Dead-ass behind a synth"...........

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    Interesting stuff Matt! In the end, it was like one giant crock pot that slow-cooked too long?

    Like, the perfect recipe that just sucks when one of the main ingredients decides to jump outta the pot. Maybe the pot-jumper didn't like the aforementioned recipe changes? Maybe the pot jumper had been stewing a little too long, and finally had enough of weak motherfucking ingredients bringing the recipe down?

    One things for sure, it kept cooking and got weaker. They tried fatback, rosemary, then fatback again......wot a crock of shit.

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    hmmm, the frailty of every human being in that band is exposed! Even Roth has his problems, but fuck he is the most honest guy out there. Everything he has ever said has pretty much turned out to be true. I salute that, he never duped me and I'll always be a fan because of this. Ed and Al can go fuck themselves, I hate the fact that they were always negative, always telling lie after lie. What a mess, the Van Halen Saga!
    I'm very proud of what was that band and what was that show and what it did mean to people. It disgusts me that it has turned into the complete opposite. That it now represents everything that I spoke against, that we suppoesedly represented the converse of. I don't want to have to remember that the team turned into that. Makes me question what the team was while I was a member. Was it all bullshit? If nothing else, it confirms in my mind that from my standpoint - yours truly, David Lee - not a fraction. If nothing else, this kind of morbid, wounded animal anger aimed my way has caused me to look deep into that bathroom mirror and come back to you with "my shit was legit." It was for real. And perhaps the test is time. Because here I am, a decade and a half later, haven't changed much. I look a little different, but not much. My sense of humour is about the same.

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    Originally posted by rustoffa
    Interesting stuff Matt! In the end, it was like one giant crock pot that slow-cooked too long?

    Like, the perfect recipe that just sucks when one of the main ingredients decides to jump outta the pot. Maybe the pot-jumper didn't like the aforementioned recipe changes? Maybe the pot jumper had been stewing a little too long, and finally had enough of weak motherfucking ingredients bringing the recipe down?

    One things for sure, it kept cooking and got weaker. They tried fatback, rosemary, then fatback again......wot a crock of shit.




    Fatback and rosemary!


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    Good read! It just goes to show that the Band couldnt handle Roth's popularity and that was sad. Here is a band that ruled the world and airwaves and because the FRONTMAN was getting more attention then the guitarist...the falling out had begun. The truth is the FRONTMAN usually gets the most attention....and If you're anything like Dave the attention is going to be HUGE. You had a bunch of ego's..NOT just Dave. C'mon...like Eddie didnt think he was the shit? It's always been Roth this and Roth that..when the truth is he gave that band more then they could've done on their own. Ego or no ego the band was at it's best with Roth cause chemestry is hard thing to come by in a band. But what the fuck do I know...I'm a Duck...

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    Keeper of the Brand

    Matt, actually your recap is not all that profound or insightful. Much of this occured behind the scences from '80 on, but your summary thoughts are accurate. DLR was the "brand" director, The look, the sound, the back stage antics, all carfully executed and integrated by Dave. He is a brilliant marketer. A formula that would be copied by everyone from the Crue to Guns and Roses. Clearly Dave was the leader.

    Now lets be honest here, Dave had his own disfuntions that contributed to the dimise including his own major coke habit. I am sure you saw some of that in Vancouver. His greatest detriment was as a leader you have to be willing to comprimise with the rest of the team. As the three amigos lives began to change ...marrige, mid life ...Dave needed to recognize that some of the objectives might begin to change to. His incredible drive here did not allow him to see the forest through the trees as a leader. A repeat would occur in '96 at MTV. Bottom line sometimes he can be a jerk not a leader. I do believe that Ed recognized the marketing prowess Dave brought to the band and that is why he cried the day Dave came to his house to tell him he was leaving the band. Ed knew that even if he replaced the singer there was much more to replace.

    I had lunch with Gene Simmons in and around the MTV fiasco and I thought he said something interesting but obvious. None of them are clean. He went down the list....Arowsmith, Kiss, The Stones, Clapton Bon Jovi all went clean before the comebacks. His prediction back then was no reunion until that happens. There definetly is something there. Although I am not so sure that Dave would be any fun sober.

    Anyway, now that the sisters have been running the brand for the last 20 years ...can you believe that...they are unwilling to let the brand king come back and run it. It's ashame because American culture loves a good brand that tastes the same each time you open the bottle. Like everyone on this site, I sure would love to taste that drink one more time.

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    Interesting........

    Discuss

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    I still take Dave's side in the split.

    While everyone had their vices, it wasn't Dave who was slacking, drunken every day, so pissed that you would miss phonecalls and can't get your ass going.

    When it was time to work, for Dave, it was time to work.

    Look, even when DLR had already worked on half of 5150 with Ed, Van Hagar still needed 9 months to release the damn thing.

    Dave may have been a jerk at times, only because he wanted VH to be at the top of its game--it was Dave who helped craft the image and even musical direction.

    Granted, Jump was released at the right time. Timing is everything. Dave never liked it and was right to discard the song when first introduced to Dave back in 1980.

    That wasn't the right time for VH to release a song like Jump---too much of a turn.

    1984 was the perfect year--with synth tunes and Miami Vice soundtracks selling millions of albums.

    But where Ed was going with 5150 (the results were obvious) was just too much for Dave. I firmly believe that if they did the amount of synth tunes with Dave on 5150, that album would've tanked.

    Now with a new singer, the possibilities were endless and less of a risk because it was a different band.
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    Re: Keeper of the Brand

    Originally posted by skins
    I had lunch with Gene Simmons in and around the MTV fiasco and I thought he said something interesting but obvious.
    That fucking Gene....he's a walking, talking, lunch-scarfin' soothsayer!

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    Hey guys

    I was at that Vancouver show. I was 14 years old and went with my Dad - also a VH fan. It was also my very first concert.

    It was an amazing (and I've seen them 5 times since) show. Never to be duplicated in my mind. The crowd did go crazy -- almost a semi-riot. The opening act was some no-name band and they got booed off the stage. (my friend had such bad seats that he thought they were the Stray Cats because the bass player had an upright! lol.)

    Of the 5 other times I've seen VH -- eddie (who was my hero) was so fucked up that he could hardly play. I've only seen one good VH show since -- and it was one of two shows on the 5150 tour I caught.

    That said I missed the ETAS tour with Dave, but did catch another amazing Vancouver show on the Skyscraper tour. It fucking rocked -- Dave rocked. The whole band centre stage playing kettle drums! Good stuff.

    Then years later I caught Dave in Bristol, England in a very sad display -- I called it "Jim Dandy on Coke" tour (circa 94).

    What can you say other than our heroes have all fallen. Dave WAS amazing but the coke --- he should have just said no at one point.

    They will never be again --- for Dave, if I had a chance to produce him, I'd have him doing acoustic blues and Jazz standards. There's a radio gig MP3 around the net with Dave singing Mercy Mercy Mercy that suggests he could still be vital.

    As for Sammy --- I've actually flown with him down to Cabo a couple of times and he seems to be a nice enough guy (you never know who you'll sit next to in Alaska first class) --- but damn --- he can only sing Tuti-fruiti and sometimes I want to hear (sub)lime green --- And Dave sure could sing green when he wanted to.

    Anyway --- just thought I'd share. Krokus always were wankers BTW.....
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    Uhhhhhhh.....

    I saw DAVE this summer.....

    he was INCREDIBLE.........

    Better than when I saw him in 1991........

    Spammy has always SUCKED.........

    Thanks for stopping by....................

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    Thanks for posting that...

    I like how Dave didn't care and kept partying even though the others could be plotting against him.

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