DAVE wrote "Intruder"? Who woulda thunk?

**Matt White** · 10-25-2005, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by MAX
He did.

He played the rhythm part. It was just Dave, Ed and Ted Templeman in the studio when they first cut it with Ed playing slide.

When they did the vocals Nicolette Larson also sang backup.

I've got it in some fuckin' interview somewhere.

They also toyed with ending the song with a cow's "moo" but decided against it. The water you hear in the song is real too cos it was raining heavily when they put down the basic track.

EXACTLY 'Millian!

DAVE was responsible for WAY more of the CLASSIC VAN HALEN sound then he's ever given credit for......

**MAX** · 10-25-2005, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by Matt White
EXACTLY 'Millian!

DAVE was responsible for WAY more of the CLASSIC VAN HALEN sound then he's ever given credit for......

That's beyond evident Taeo cos listen to the shit they put out without his imput.

I mean they even brought Ted Templeman back for that "FUCK" album to do with Sammy what he'd always done with Dave and Andy Johns played the Donn Landee role. They recorded it much like "1984" and the songs STILL sucked.

Even Alexia said it himself in 1996:

"There's no denying the chemistry that happens when the four of us play together. Something magical always happens in the music."

**Matt White** · 10-25-2005, 10:00 PM

TRUE 'DAT!!!

**Diamondjimi** · 10-25-2005, 11:04 PM

The Full Bug intro. has got to be Ed. It sounds like it's played with a pick. Dave always picked with his fingers , generally in open tunings (Ice cream Man).

Could this be Magic & Big Bad Bill were recorded with all of them tracking live. CTBM outdoors during a California rain storm &
B.B.B was recorded live while they played in a circle joined by Jan VH on clarinet.

**MAX** · 10-25-2005, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by diamondjimi
The Full Bug intro. has got to be Ed.

IT ISN'T!!!

It's DAVE!!!

Fuck, even Ed said so and Dave played it live on The Hide Your Sheep Tour!!!

**Steve Savicki** · 10-25-2005, 11:11 PM

Another reason why Diver Down was a kick arse album.

Thanks for researchin' this, sir.

**MAX** · 10-25-2005, 11:13 PM

Suup Savicki?

It wasn't hard to research interviews that I've already owned for years though.

**Brett** · 10-26-2005, 12:44 AM

I still want to see that damn interview in writing where Ed says Dave played "The Full Bug" intro, it just doesn't sound like Dave god damn it.

**Brett** · 10-26-2005, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by Terry

Think as far as CVH went, Dave was probably more of an ear for Ed to bounce ideas off of than anything else. Never bought into the whole "Dave and/or Eddie is/was CVH" nonsense to begin with. Took all four of 'em to make it happen. But I could see Dave saying to Ed something like "Let's use that part you came up with in the chorus instead of the bridge," or something along those lines.

Absolutely.

No question Dave had a lot of input in arranging, considering he to sing over it. But that's not different than any other band.

How many bands have we all been in where someone will say, "Let's use that part as the chorus" or "Let's use that as the verse, it's easier to sing over" or something along those lines.

**ELVIS** · 10-26-2005, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by Brett
I still want to see that damn interview in writing where Ed says Dave played "The Full Bug" intro, it just doesn't sound like Dave god damn it.

Because it's not...

**Brett** · 10-26-2005, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by ELVIS
Because it's not...

See! It's not just me.

**MAX** · 10-26-2005, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by Brett
I still want to see that damn interview in writing where Ed says Dave played "The Full Bug" intro, it just doesn't sound like Dave god damn it.

Settle down Beavis. lol.

I told you that I'd be more than happy to mail it to you.

Fuck, some of you make me crazy. I was fucking around on my Strat tonight and comparing "Ice Cream Man" and "The Full Bug" intros. I then listened to both albums. Fuck, it sounds like Dave just fine. I don't see the dilemma. lmao

**ELVIS** · 10-26-2005, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by Brett
Absolutely.

No question Dave had a lot of input in arranging, considering he to sing over it. But that's not different than any other band.

Yeah but, Classic Van Halen would sound like those crappy Zero demos without Ted Templeman and Don Landee...

Same as Lennon McCartney without George Martin...

Have any of you guys heard the new let It Be ??

**MAX** · 10-26-2005, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by ELVIS
Because it's not...

YES IT IS!!!

Elvis,

You're just on a warpath tonight. Lookin' for a fight in every thread. :p

**ELVIS** · 10-26-2005, 12:51 AM

And who cares what Edward said in a drunken interview ??

He probably doesn't remember playing his best shit...

**MAX** · 10-26-2005, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by ELVIS
Have any of you guys heard the new let It Be ??

I always thought "Let It Be" was done by that freak Phil Spector? :confused:

**MAX** · 10-26-2005, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by ELVIS
And who cares what Edward said in a drunken interview ??

He probably doesn't remember playing his best shit...

It isn't a hard intro to play. Fuck, Dave played it live on that tour. What's the problem?

**ELVIS** · 10-26-2005, 12:54 AM

The videos I have, there is no intro...

**ELVIS** · 10-26-2005, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by MAX
I always thought "Let It Be" was done by that freak Phil Spector? :confused:

Maybe so, let me check...

Either way, you get my idea...

**Brett** · 10-26-2005, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by MAX
Settle down Beavis. lol.

I told you that I'd be more than happy to mail it to you.

Fuck, some of you make me crazy. I was fucking around on my Strat tonight and comparing "Ice Cream Man" and "The Full Bug" intros. I then listened to both albums. Fuck, it sounds like Dave just fine. I don't see the dilemma. lmao

Make a copy, send it fucker.

**ELVIS** · 10-26-2005, 12:57 AM

Correct, Spector produced Let It be and Pual never liked it...

I spoke to soon...

**Brett** · 10-26-2005, 12:58 AM

Well he destroyed "The Long And Winding Road" with that string shit that Paul despised.

**ELVIS** · 10-26-2005, 01:03 AM

I like it...

**MAX** · 10-26-2005, 01:03 AM

Aiiight and JUDAS PRIEST!!!

Brett and Elvis, go fucking listen to "The Full Bug" right now.

Listen to the acoustic intro and then listen to when they do that verse again after the solo.

You can totally tell the fucking difference, It's beyond basic.

Seriously, the intro is no big deal and doesn't sound like Ed at all. Then listen to the same part while it's definitely Ed.

This is silly.

**MAX** · 10-26-2005, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by Brett
Make a copy, send it fucker.

I will dickbreath. :p

**Brett** · 10-26-2005, 01:05 AM

Send it.

What about Judas Priest?

**Brett** · 10-26-2005, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by ELVIS
I like it...

Yes I figured that.

**ELVIS** · 10-26-2005, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by MAX
This is silly.

No it's not, I've been playing that song on guitar since it came out...

I've analyzed it every way possible...

It's not Dave...

**MAX** · 10-26-2005, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by ELVIS
No it's not, I've been playing that song on guitar since it came out...

I've analyzed it every way possible...

It's not Dave...

Dude, I don't see the big deal?

This is funny and has been great cos I haven't REALLY listened to that song in ages.

Fuckin' A it's Dave. That intro doesn't sound like Ed the least bit. That song is totally a Dave influenced blues motherfucker. The harp solo, the modulation, etc.

I'm also giving Ed props for his playing when he "Brownsounded" the intro after the solos.

It's most definitely not one of Ed's pride and joys. By that I mean, it's more of a sequel to "Ice Cream Man" and something that Dave prolly planted a seed and Ed made a song out of it. Remember, he was drunk, intimidated and did everything that mean ol' Dave and Teddy told him to at the time? lmao

Let's let Loons settle this cos he's apparantly rippin' up the acoustic blues on his porch as of late.

**MAX** · 10-26-2005, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by Brett
Send it.

What about Judas Priest?

Will do.

"Judas Priest?" I guess they're playing here this weekend. Never much cared for them so I'll miss the show.

Breakin' The Law!!!

**ELVIS** · 10-26-2005, 01:23 AM

I don't know man...

Dave can't really play guitar very well...

**MAX** · 10-26-2005, 01:23 AM

"The Long and Winding Road" sucks, whatever version.

**MAX** · 10-26-2005, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by ELVIS
I don't know man...

Dave can't really play guitar very well...

It doesn't sound like Ed at all. Dave picks the acoustic not too badly. I'm no idiot that claims Dave wrote shit musically with Halen at all. I think he did what any singer does with melodies, etc. However, in the case of "The Full Bug" Dave might have had an idea and Ed built a song around it.

**Brett** · 10-26-2005, 01:39 AM

I still fucking say it ain't him and I'm always right.

**ELVIS** · 10-26-2005, 01:43 AM

I say it's Ed also!

I don't even think Dave wrote most of the words and melodies to Classic Van Halen...

**MAX** · 10-26-2005, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by Brett
I still fucking say it ain't him and I'm always right.

Horsehit Norton!!!

I challenge you to a duel...

Swords or pistols? lmao

BTW. Now that I have DD playin', fuck it's awesome!!!

It's what got me into VH in the first place as a kid. Ironically enough, it was hearing fucking "Intruder" and mistaking it for a hard rockin' auto parts add when I was eleven.

"Intruder" shreads and MAYBE dave was allowed to fiddle with the cupla notes on the keyboard when it was recorded?

**MAX** · 10-26-2005, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by ELVIS
I don't even think Dave wrote most of the words and melodies to Classic Van Halen...

Now you're just sounding stupid...

**ELVIS** · 10-26-2005, 01:51 AM

Intruder pretty much sucks...

Pretty Woman is the worst van Halen song there is...

**ELVIS** · 10-26-2005, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by MAX
Now you're just sounding stupid...

Yeah ??

Listen to the WACF demos...

Dave had zero ideas...

The producer told him to do this, do that, scream here, scream there...

**MAX** · 10-26-2005, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by ELVIS
Intruder pretty much sucks...

Pretty Woman is the worst van Halen song there is...

Fine, Mr. "Stand Up" is one of Dave's "best?" lol.

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