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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10620

    When Someone Tells You He Wants to Kill You - Take Him Seriously

    When Someone Tells You He Wants to Kill You - Take Him Seriously
    Nov 3, 2005
    by Clifford D. May


    Call it Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Mein Kampf moment.


    Eighty years ago, Adolf Hitler published an autobiography-cum-manifesto. Its title translates as “My Struggle.” In it, Hitler talked of his desire for revenge against France, the German nation's need to control more land, and the means by which his National Socialist Party could gain power.

    It also included, of course, a clear indication of his genocidal intentions against the Jews.

    Last week, Iran's president echoed those themes. He talked about his “struggle” – the word translate into both Arabic and Persian as “jihad” -- his desire for revenge against America and the West, the Islamic nation's need to control more land, and the means by which his Militant Islamist movement could gain global power.


    He also included his genocidal intention to wipe Israel “off the map.”

    Of course, there are differences between Hitler in 1925 and Ahmadinejad in 2005. Perhaps the biggest is this: When Hitler made his threats he was an obscure politician whom hardly anyone took seriously.

    By contrast, Ahmadinejad is the president of a large and wealthy nation that operates terrorist organizations and is well on its way to developing nuclear weapons.

    Had Hitler's threatening words inspired serious action then, millions of people – Jews, Gypsies, Czechoslovaks, Americans, British, Russians and others – would not have been slaughtered in the 20th Century.

    If Ahmadinejad's threatening words inspire serious action now, millions of people may be spared in this century. But while President Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and others responded with strong rhetoric, neither penalties nor restraints seem likely to be imposed on the Islamist Fascist regime in Tehran. Indeed, not a single European ambassador was withdrawn – not even temporarily.

    In most Arab and Muslim capitals there weren't even rebukes for Ahmadinejad. The exceptions were Egypt and the Palestinian Authority which, along with Jordan, have recognized Israel. Muslim leaders who make that concession, Ahmadinejad promised, will “burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury.”

    While all this is news it isn't really new. I was a young reporter in Iran in 1979 when the Ayatollah Khomeini returned from exile in France and took power. Back in those days, too, the ruling mullahs had the will – if not yet a way – to exterminate Israelis, though their loudest chant was always “Death to America!”

    After the Holocaust, civilized people vowed “Never Again!” It has been observed that the phrase has come to mean that never again will German Nazis in the 1940s slaughter millions of Jews in Europe. Anything else is possible. Most members of the “international community” have been averted their eyes from the genocidal campaigns waged in Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia, Kosovo and Darfur.

    Testifying before a U.S. Senate committee this week, Newt Gingrich – a historian before he entered politics – said that Ahmadinejad's threat “calls to mind the reported response of a Holocaust survivor. When asked what lesson he had drawn from the experience, he answered, ‘When someone tells you he wants to kill you -- believe him.'"

    Little commented on has been the section of Ahmadinejad's speech where he put his threats against Israel into broader perspective, into the context of a long war between what he sees as rival civilizations.

    “We are in the process of a historical war between the World of Arrogance [i.e. the West] and the Islamic world, and this war has been going on for hundreds of years,” he said.

    "'In this historical war, the situation at the fronts has changed many times. During some periods, the Muslims were the victors and were very active, and looked forward, and the World of Arrogance was in retreat.

    "'Unfortunately, in the past 300 years, the Islamic world has been in retreat vis-a-vis the World of Arrogance.”

    That will change, Ahmadinejad promised. He said that when people ask him if it is really “possible for us to witness a world without America and Zionism?” he replies: “[Y]ou had best know that this slogan and this goal are attainable, and surely can be achieved.”

    There is every reason to believe him and other Islamist Fascists. There is every reason, this time around, to do whatever it takes to stop them.
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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35157

    #2
    What was the Zionists Mein Kampf moment?

    I think it was either when they starting setting off bombs in public places in Jerusalem in the 1930s or when they set up concentration camps to put Palestinians in after they took their land in the late 1940s.

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49125

      #3
      Um, another very flawed historical allusion.

      The JEWS have nukes this time, and the whole world, not just IRAN, will pay for this shithead's statements in that case.

      The article's writer also forgot to mention how the IRANIAN people were pissed for fifty years of meddling by the CIA in their internal affairs, and of the US' support for The SHAH who was also a brutal dictator. And how our meddling in the IRANIAN elections actually helped this turd to win.

      Actually, this Ahmadinejad guy is more like our politicians: exaggerating and demonizing his enemies in order to keep the citizen's attention off him and his inevitable future political failings...

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      • BigBadBrian
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jan 2004
        • 10620

        #4
        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
        Um, another very flawed historical allusion.

        The JEWS have nukes this time, and the whole world, not just IRAN, will pay for this shithead's statements in that case.

        The article's writer also forgot to mention how the IRANIAN people were pissed for fifty years of meddling by the CIA in their internal affairs, and of the US' support for The SHAH who was also a brutal dictator. And how our meddling in the IRANIAN elections actually helped this turd to win.

        Actually, this Ahmadinejad guy is more like our politicians: exaggerating and demonizing his enemies in order to keep the citizen's attention off him and his inevitable future political failings...
        ''There is every reason to believe him and other Islamist Fascists. There is every reason, this time around, to do whatever it takes to stop them. ''
        “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35157

          #5
          Israel is always trying to stir up shit between the US and Arab countries.

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58754

            #6
            Re: When Someone Tells You He Wants to Kill You - Take Him Seriously

            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
            When Someone Tells You He Wants to Kill You - Take Him Seriously
            Nov 3, 2005
            by Clifford D. May


            Call it the Bush Criminal Empire's Mein Kampf moment.


            Six years ago, The Project for a New American Century (PNAC) published an autobiography-cum-manifesto. Its title translates as “Fourth Reich 2000.” In it, PNAC talked of their desire for revenge against Iraq, the Likud party's need to control more land, and the means by which their globalist cabal could gain power.

            It also included, of course, a clear indication of their genocidal intentions against the Muslims.

            Of course, there are differences between Hitler in 1925 and Bush Jr. in 2005. Perhaps the biggest is this: When Hitler made his threats he was an obscure politician whom hardly anyone took seriously.

            By contrast, Junior is the president of a large and wealthy nation that operates terrorist organizations and is the owner of the world's largest number of nuclear weapons.

            Had Hitler's threatening words inspired serious action then, millions of people – Jews, Gypsies, Czechoslovaks, Americans, British, Russians and others – would not have been slaughtered in the 20th Century.

            If Bush's threatening words inspire serious action now, millions of people may be spared in this century. But while billions of people worldwide responded with strong rhetoric, neither penalties nor restraints seem likely to be imposed on the Globalist Fascist regime in Washington DC. Indeed, not a single European ambassador was withdrawn – not even temporarily.

            In most western capitals there weren't even rebukes for The Idiot Son of an Asshole. The exceptions were Germany and Canada which correctly referred to Bush Jr. as a "moron".

            After the Holocaust, civilized people vowed “Never Again!” It has been observed that the phrase has come to mean that never again will German Nazis in the 1940s slaughter millions of Jews in Europe. Anything else is possible. Most members of the “international community” have been averted their eyes from the genocidal campaigns waged in Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia, Kosovo and Darfur.

            Testifying before a U.S. Senate committee this week, Newt Gingrich – a historian before he entered politics – said that Chimpy's threat “calls to mind the reported response of a Holocaust survivor. When asked what lesson he had drawn from the experience, he answered, ‘When someone tells you he wants to kill you -- believe him.'"

            Little commented on has been the section of Bush's speech where he put his threats against Iraq into broader perspective, into the context of a long war between what he sees as rival civilizations.

            “We are in the process of a historical war between the World of Arrogance [i.e. the West] and the Islamic world, and this war has been going on for hundreds of years,” he said.


            That will change, Bush promised. He said that when people ask him if it is really “possible for us to witness a world controlled by America and Zionism?” he replies: “[Y]ou had best know that this slogan and this goal are attainable, and surely can be achieved.”

            There is every reason to believe him and other Likudist/Corporatist Fascists. There is every reason, this time around, to do whatever it takes to stop them.
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            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • bueno bob
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jul 2004
              • 22820

              #7
              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              Um, another very flawed historical allusion.

              The JEWS have nukes this time, and the whole world, not just IRAN, will pay for this shithead's statements in that case.

              The article's writer also forgot to mention how the IRANIAN people were pissed for fifty years of meddling by the CIA in their internal affairs, and of the US' support for The SHAH who was also a brutal dictator. And how our meddling in the IRANIAN elections actually helped this turd to win.

              Actually, this Ahmadinejad guy is more like our politicians: exaggerating and demonizing his enemies in order to keep the citizen's attention off him and his inevitable future political failings...
              Yup.
              Twistin' by the pool.

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35157

                #8
                Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                Um, another very flawed historical allusion.

                The JEWS have nukes this time, and the whole world, not just IRAN, will pay for this shithead's statements in that case.

                The article's writer also forgot to mention how the IRANIAN people were pissed for fifty years of meddling by the CIA in their internal affairs, and of the US' support for The SHAH who was also a brutal dictator. And how our meddling in the IRANIAN elections actually helped this turd to win.

                Actually, this Ahmadinejad guy is more like our politicians: exaggerating and demonizing his enemies in order to keep the citizen's attention off him and his inevitable future political failings...
                Good post.

                Glad to see your break from the boards wasn't too long...

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                • jhale667
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 20929

                  #9
                  Would I lose my 'liberal' status around here if I suggested we turn Iran into a parking lot?
                  Originally posted by conmee
                  If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                  That is all.

                  Icon.
                  Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                  I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                  Originally posted by Isaac R.
                  Then it's really true??:eek:

                  The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                  OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                  Originally posted by eddie78
                  I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49125

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Seshmeister
                    Good post.

                    Glad to see your break from the boards wasn't too long...
                    It's good to be back SESH.

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                    • Hardrock69
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 21834

                      #11
                      Hey Elvis threatened to kill me once and I don't take him seriously at all!


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                      • BigBadBrian
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10620

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                        It's good to be back SESH.
                        Were you gone somewhere? :confused:
                        “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                        • thome
                          ROTH ARMY ELITE
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 6674

                          #13
                          War, It's the Latest thing.

                          Everybodys doin it.

                          Everbodys done it in the past.

                          Somethings never go out of style.

                          The return of a classic.

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 58754

                            #14
                            Blow me, troll.
                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

                            Justice Democrats


                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • thome
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 6674

                              #15
                              Not gonna do it ,nope, not my thing but good luck on finding
                              some-thing to help you with your lil problem.

                              Someday when you have a original thought I will be amazed and
                              really compliment you.

                              Your tired of -The Great Land of the USA- sludge is getting older and
                              more dated every day.

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