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    Flt 93 And Flt 175 Landed At Or Near Cleveland On 9/11 Says Former Cleveland Mayor

    http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles...8131/37079.htm

    11/11/05


    State sponsored U.S. media ignores story, leaving 'internet hounds' to smell out the truth behind what really happened to the passengers on the doomed flights.

    On the morning of 9/11 a little known Cincinnati television station ran a story saying Flight 93 landed at Cleveland International Airport instead of crashing into the Pentagon as claimed in the official government story.

    Reporters at WCPO Channel 9 quoted then Cleveland Mayor Michael R. White as saying "a Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing due to a bomb threat," the airplane landing safely, moved to a secure location and evacuated.

    The early morning report went on to say United Airlines verified the plane as Flight 93, but was also deeply concerned about another jetliner in the vicinity, Flight 175, flying from Boston to Los Angeles.

    Also included in the little known news report was a comment from United CEO, James Goodwin, who said, "The thoughts of everyone at United are with the passengers and crew of these flights. Our prayers are also with everyone on the ground who may have been involved. United Airlines is working with all the relevant authorities, including the FBI, to obtain further information on these flights."

    Former Mayor White, as well as United and WCPO, could not be reached for comment, but the evidence still remains, even though it was suspiciously removed from the television's web site in June 2004 in and around the time of the 9/11 Commission hearings.

    With the evidence trail getting colder and colder, the obvious still must be asked: if Flight 175 was slamming into the South Tower and Flight 93 was downed over Pennsylvania like the government contends, why was Mayor White saying both planes were in or in the vicinity of Cleveland?

    The answer to this question remains a mystery four years later since the 9/11 Commission or the FBI never thoroughly investigated the news report or former Mayor White's statement.

    And if there still happens to be any 9/11 family members still wondering what really happened to their loved ones aboard the doomed 9/11 flights, it isn't much consolation that the only really serious investigation to date has come from a couple of cyber space sleuths with no real criminal investigation background and only a hyperactive curiosity as their credentials.

    But to the credit of these novice sleuths, who never even listed their names in order to take credit for their work, the following information about the original WCPO story and its removal from the internet is all we have to go on:

    "Though the story from Cincinnati TV station WCPO is not recent news (it was posted within hours of the 9/11 attacks)," said the sleuths, "I had never heard of it until a fellow researcher recently contacted me. Click on the first link "(see links below) and you will see what is currently posted on the website, 'This story has been removed from WCPO.com. It was a preliminary AP story, and was factually incorrect.'

    "However, using the powerful resource of the Internet Archive , which archives all major websites on the internet on a regular basis, you can see how this webpage appeared over past months and years. Using this excellent resource, you will discover that the original posting (provided below) can be viewed at the second link below.

    "Note that the original posting says nothing about being an AP article. Note also that the article continued to be posted for all dates through June 2004, and disappeared only after that. Remember that Flight 93 reportedly crashed in Pennsylvania on 9/11, with all aboard killed. How can this be? See these web sites for verification:
    http://www.wcpo.com/specials/2001/am...l/story14.html

    http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...l/story14.html

    Besides WCPO's obvious cover-up, another little known account concerning the passengers aboard the flights concerns the strange - almost unbelievable -- reaction of former Rep. Phil Crane (R-Ill) in response to the information compiled on another internet sleuth's 9/11web site.

    The incident involves a phone call by Rep. Crane to Phil Jayhan, a serious 9/11 fact gatherer, who appears to be on to something and headed in the right direction in solving parts of the 9/11 mystery if this strange -- out of the blue call -- from a Congressman is any indication.

    In an extended phone conversation this week concerning the call, Jayhan asked why would a big shot Congressman call him unless it was to designed to gather information, interrogate him or find out what he really knew, as well as indicating he might be hot on the trail of something important

    Jayhan, who puts together www.letsroll911.org , also wrote this on his web site about the mysterious call from former Rep. Crane, the former head of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee:

    "Well, we all now know there was a series of War Games going on the week of 911, as well as 911 itself. I probably wouldn't have even thought of this if it were not for Congressman Phil Crane's phone call to me.

    "Why take any chances on 911? They had time on their side, and thus a near perfect plan, or a perfect plan that didn't work as advertised. Crane seemed most interested in 'the people' & 'the pathology' more than anything else. Why would he be asking me about this, if indeed flight 93 was the meat wagon? All of the remains would have been sent to path and identified, and no one would be the wiser, right?

    "But as I have said, if I could pin down a reason why Phil Crane would have pulled the stunt he did with me, it would have to be the subject of where are the people...? Because he didn't have a problem with the missile and the pod or that the flight was switched, so he was well acquainted with my web site when he called. But he, they(?) were stumped as to the missing people, and where they went. So, let's think in Phil Crane's shoes for a moment. He finally is forced to see the site (let's roll) by one of his aids who finally had done the research and seen that what my site says is true.

    "So Phil Crane and perhaps a few in his staff, or perhaps a few other Congressman and Senators are sitting around, and they see the problem pod, the problem missile and realize this plane was switched.

    "I am assuming here that they know something we don't in this area, i.e. namely that there were No bodies or true DNA tests done. They were a PR sham to help sweep 911 under the rug sooner and more efficiently, best not to have grieving loved ones family members crying foul because DNA testing was taking too long to put their hearts to rest, so they faked the DNA test results."

    Greg Szymanski is an independent investigative journalist and his articles can been seen at www.LewisNews.com. He also writes for American Free Press www.AmericanFreePress.net and has his own site www.arcticbeacon.com . Greg has a live Radio show every Monday night on mms://media.LewisNews.com/Greg and on mms://media.LewisNews.com/RadioLewisNews at 8 pm Pacific time. Greg is also looking for sponsors for his popular new show and he can be contacted at patriott2424@aol.com. On Oct. 3, Greg will be starting a daily afternoon show on the Republic Broadcast Network, airing on shortwave, low band FM and on the internet. Go to www.rbnlive.com for information.
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    Lemme guess...Bigfoot was the pilot?

    You didn't like what you saw so you wanna believe this urban legand shit?

    C'mon!
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    OK Goober.

    Don't believe it? Here is the original article.

    It WAS reported by Cleveland TV station Channel 9.

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    Oh wait a minute was Mick Jagger hanging around?

    Or one of the Highwaymen?

    I just know I saw it in a movie once!

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    Hahahahaha...

    Give us a fucking break...
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    Geez...some people would deny the headline on a newspaper existed even if they were holding it in their hands...


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    I can verify that story was posted on the WCPO website. I saw it there long before they pulled it.

    Naturally, Busheep want to remain in denial, but the truth is, they reported the story. And I'll believe a local news afilliate for what is happening at their own airport before I'll believe the BCE.

    Only an IDIOT could possibly buy the BCE "official story" at this point anyway. That story was demolished faster than the towers themselves were.
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    Originally posted by Hardrock69
    Geez...some people would deny the headline on a newspaper existed even if they were holding it in their hands...

    No, some people would deny the headline as inaccurate....headlines also said Dewey won....
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    Originally posted by FORD
    I can verify that story was posted on the WCPO website. I saw it there long before they pulled it.

    Naturally, Busheep want to remain in denial, but the truth is, they reported the story. And I'll believe a local news afilliate for what is happening at their own airport before I'll believe the BCE.

    Only an IDIOT could possibly buy the BCE "official story" at this point anyway. That story was demolished faster than the towers themselves were.
    Even if we assume that the story was reported, they pulled it. Is it your contention that the "BCE" pulled the story?
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    Originally posted by DR CHIP
    No, some people would deny the headline as inaccurate....headlines also said Dewey won....
    The Dewey headline was a case of a newspaper using what was then the current trend of an election to predict the outcome. It's the same thing TV commentators do in every election. Problem with newspapers is it's hard to retract them once they are printed.

    The Cleveland story wasn't a prediction, it was a report of what was happening at that time, They didn't pull the story because the plane that landed there went back in time and didn't land. They pulled it because "someone" pressured them heavily to do so, as the story throws a monkey wrench into what has become the "official story" of 9-11-01

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    Originally posted by FORD
    They didn't pull the story because the plane that landed there went back in time and didn't land. They pulled it because "someone" pressured them heavily to do so, as the story throws a monkey wrench into what has become the "official story" of 9-11-01
    What is your source for this statement?

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    Originally posted by Guitar Shark
    Even if we assume that the story was reported, they pulled it. Is it your contention that the "BCE" pulled the story?
    At the very least, the BCE "strongly suggested" that WCPO pull the story.

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    Originally posted by FORD
    At the very least, the BCE "strongly suggested" that WCPO pull the story.
    Again, provide a source please. Stop presenting your opinions as fact.

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    Originally posted by Guitar Shark
    What is your source for this statement?
    The fact that the article remianed on their website for several months after the 9-11 attacks, but was suddenly pulled when the story began circulating among those who investigate 9-11-01.

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    Originally posted by FORD
    The fact that the article remianed on their website for several months after the 9-11 attacks, but was suddenly pulled when the story began circulating among those who investigate 9-11-01.
    OK, so you've established that it was pulled (assuming it was ever there to begin with). Now provide a link between the BCE and the fact that it was pulled. You can't do it.

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    I just did.

    Now why don't you try to justify an "official story" full of holes?

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    Originally posted by FORD
    I just did.
    You did no such thing. You might be able to fool other members of the tin foil beanie club but not the rest of us.

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    Originally posted by Guitar Shark
    OK, so you've established that it was pulled (assuming it was ever there to begin with). Now provide a link between the BCE and the fact that it was pulled. You can't do it.
    Common sense, counselor. Who could possibly benefit from the story being pulled, other than the Bush Criminal Empire?

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    Originally posted by FORD
    Common sense, counselor. Who could possibly benefit from the story being pulled, other than the Bush Criminal Empire?
    Who could benefit? How about the readers? Reputable media organizations routinely pull stories when their sources are later deemed inaccurate.

    I don't even know why I spend time arguing these points with you...

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    Originally posted by Guitar Shark
    Who could benefit? How about the readers? Reputable media organizations routinely pull stories when their sources are later deemed inaccurate.

    I don't even know why I spend time arguing these points with you...
    As I said, the story was NOT pulled on 9-11-01, and remained there for several months after. I can't say exactly when it was pulled, but it was well into 2002 at least.

    If the corporate media had to pull every inaccurate story they have published since Chimpy's been in the White House, their archives would be nearly empty. Every mention of WMD's - gone. Every mention of a supposed link to Osama Bin Hiding - gone. All the PNAC'ers claiming Iraq would be a "cake walk" - LONG gone.

    I don't see any of those stories being pulled.

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    FORD you know that I am no supporter of this administration, but we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I am not a member of the TFBE.

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    What a twisted world you must live in ford.

    You'd believe stuff that is pulled and rebuked by the media and sane individuals but yet defend conspiricy theories that side with Calypso Louis and the Weekly World News!

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    The story was still on their website as of June 4, 2004:


    http://web.archive.org/web/200406040...l/story14.html


    It was gone by October 10, 2004:

    http://web.archive.org/web/200410102...l/story14.html
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    Originally posted by FORD
    The Dewey headline was a case of a newspaper using what was then the current trend of an election to predict the outcome. It's the same thing TV commentators do in every election. Problem with newspapers is it's hard to retract them once they are printed.

    The Cleveland story wasn't a prediction, it was a report of what was happening at that time, They didn't pull the story because the plane that landed there went back in time and didn't land. They pulled it because "someone" pressured them heavily to do so, as the story throws a monkey wrench into what has become the "official story" of 9-11-01
    C'mon Ford...my point is obvious - just because a newspaper prints it doesn't make it a fact....

    Stop straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel....

    We are pure Americans too! If I knew for a fact that what you say is accurate, of course I would be right there with you, but I see the facts differently....

    Hard to imagine a cover up this big not getting out when a Pres can't get a blowjob in the White House without everyone knowing....

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    Thank you, Chip...


    TFBE


    LMAO!


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    But what I really want to know is...did an alien ship really crash at Roswell in 1947?

    Any of the Tin-Foil Beanie Club® care to respond to that?
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    Originally posted by DR CHIP
    C'mon Ford...my point is obvious - just because a newspaper prints it doesn't make it a fact....

    I agree.

    We post articles all the time and FORD questions their validity or authenticity.

    FORD, you're just a damned nut.
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    Originally posted by Hardrock69
    The story was still on their website as of June 4, 2004:


    http://web.archive.org/web/200406040...l/story14.html


    It was gone by October 10, 2004:

    http://web.archive.org/web/200410102...l/story14.html
    Maybe, just maybe, amongst all the confusion of putting down nearly every flight in a near instantaneous fashion, somebody fucked up and got the FL number wrong on the local shitty-TV station? Could be?

    I mean, what happened to the passengers? They were taken off the airliner and killed with airline workers and other exiting passengers looking on? I highly doubt it, I'll wait until I see a major media organization take this...

    I mean no offence, but I don't consider "Arctic Beacon" to be the epitome of Journalistic credibility...

    You guys offer a conspiracy theory that is actually more implausible than the actual shocking events of that day.

    September 11 was a perfect terrorist coup d'etat of secrecy, luck, and competence...Whether anyone on the left or the right likes it or not...

    And the incompetence of FBI, CIA, the CLINTON Administration, The BUSH Administration (mainly), and the military in general, for being obstructionist along with the CIA.
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    Thank you again Nick...

    You seem to have a brain...

    A rarity among the liberal crowd these days...



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    The only thing in this thread regarding the Cleveland affair I believe is that the article was posted by the Cleveland TV station. I have never said differently.

    Oh and Warham, read this:

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...56966?v=glance

    and make up your own mind.

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    I have that book in my massive library, Hardrock.

    I still don't believe it.

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    Originally posted by Warham
    I have that book in my massive library, Hardrock.

    I still don't believe it.

    wow.


    massive, no less


    care to look up "pretentious" in your massive archive ?
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    Originally posted by LoungeMachine
    wow.


    massive, no less


    care to look up "pretentious" in your massive archive ?
    Why would I have anything less than massive, ego included? lol

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    Originally posted by Warham
    Why would I have anything less than massive, ego included? lol



    for the record.......back issues of Swank don't constitute a library, bro
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    hehe

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    okay being from around this area, Why the hell would you want to hide them in Cleveland? Wouldn't a place like Arizona or Las vegas make a lot more sense. Ford you said the source was from a local news service over here in Cleveland? It takes quite a few hours to be in Cincinati. Wouldn't the story have been posted WEWS (News Channel 5.)? Have you been to Cleveland Hopkins? there is quite a few people there aren't there? wouldn't you think one person would have noticed such an event, like this? Just random thoughts about the issue. Carry on.
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    There have also been statements made by radar operators in the NE where they claimed that the two actual 9/11 planes flew out over the Atlantic ocean until they disappeared from their radar screen.
    The theory there being that the 2 planes that crashed into the World Trade Center were not the ones everyone thought they were.


    So who the fuck knows.


    Dr. Vibe, thanks for mentioning that movie. I saw it a long time ago someplace, but never rememebered the name of it or any details other than the basic plot.

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    Originally posted by FORD
    Common sense, counselor. Who could possibly benefit from the story being pulled, other than the Bush Criminal Empire?
    I'll skip the obvious common sense remark, because that one's too easy. But, are you saying that Uniter Airlines willingly participated in the relocation of a plane and the disappearance of all passengers, resulting in one of the worst economic recessions for all airlines in history? One that they have never recovered from?


    Just to help the BCE?


    You're not just a member of the TFBE, you're the President...
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