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    Beach Boys Feud Feud Feud

    By Josh Grossberg



    So much for good vibrations.


    Beach Boys member Mike Love has filed a lawsuit against former band mate Brian Wilson over Smile--the famously unfinished Beach Boys opus that Wilson completed and released on his own last year to much acclaim, and at Love's expense.


    The suit, filed in federal court in Los Angeles, alleges that the promotional blitz by Wilson "shamelessly misappropriated Mike Love's songs, likeness, and the Beach Boys trademark, as well as the Smile album itself," per court papers obtained by City News Service.


    Wilson, the Beach Boys' principal songwriter and general mastermind, scrapped Smile at the height of the seminal surf band's popularity in 1967, a few weeks before the Beatles released Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. The lost sessions became the stuff of music legend; based on the surviving songs and snippets, some music aficionados argued Smile would have rivaled Sgt. Pepper's in the pop pantheon. Per rock history, it was Love who was fought against the release of Smile because it differed dramatically from the Beach Boys' standard surf sound.


    Love, who cowrote and sang lead on many early Beach Boys classics, alleges that the publicity campaign for Wilson's solo Smile negatively affected sales of Beach Boys albums. Particularly aggrieving Love was Wilson's decision to give away more than 2.6 million copies of a Beach Boys' compilation disc in an edition of Britain's Mail on Sunday newspaper.


    Love's suit seeks damages amounting to "millions of dollars in illicit profits," claiming the campaign diluted the Beach Boys' brand name, and addition $1 million-plus for international advertising "designed to correct the effects of its unfair competition and infringing uses." Other defendants include the Mail on Sunday and Sanctuary Records Group.


    Reps for Wilson and Love could not be reached for comment Thursday.


    Smile, which features the classic "Good Vibrations," was among the most critically hailed albums of 2004. It also earned Wilson his first competitive Grammy.


    Love, who cofounded the band with cousins Brian, Dennis and Carl Wilson, and friend Al Jardine, is the only member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame quintet to continue using the Beach Boys moniker.


    As Brian Wilson, the most talented and reclusive of the bunch, managed to overcome decades-long depression and launched a successful solo career, both his brothers have died. Dennis Wilson drowned in 1983, while Carl Wilson succumbed to cancer in 1998.


    The three surviving members--Love, Wilson and Jardine--each own a share of the Beach Boys corporation, Brother Records. However, due to legal wrangling through the years, Love is the only member allowed to use Beach Boys name for touring purposes.


    (Wouldn't it be nice if they all just got along? Jardine tried touring under the name "Beach Boys Family and Friends" with Brian Wilson's daughters Wendy and Carnie, but an appeals court barred him from doing so.)


    Despite the infighting, the Beach Boys are in synch on one legal matter.


    Brother Records notified London auctioneer CooperOwen last week that 28 memorabilia items about to be put up for bid, including original sheet music by Brian Wilson and Love, were actually stolen, according to the Los Angeles Police Department.


    No suspect has been publicly named in the theft of the mementos, but Brother Records says it will file a civil suit on behalf of the Beach Boys against CooperOwen and the individual seller of the memorabilia, as well as anyone who purchases the items.


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    This got me to wonder.

    Is there any long-standing group left that are still together, all original members that have never split up once?

    It has to be rare.
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    Love has continued to bastardise the BB name with endless tours with session musicians, (Including fucking John Stamos) ripping off the public, and he wants to now sue Wilson????

    Fucking talentless bastard.
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    Re: Beach Boys Feud Feud Feud

    Originally posted by ALinChainz
    (Wouldn't it be nice if they all just got along? Jardine tried touring under the name "Beach Boys Family and Friends" with Brian Wilson's daughters Wendy and Carnie, but an appeals court barred him from doing so.)


    Yeah, sad deal. I think Captain of Cap't and Tennille was playing with Jardine.
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    Hey Mike, get a clue......

    Brian Wilson **IS** the Beach Boys, you stupid dress wearing Maharishi Loving fucking sponge off your cousin your entire adult life BITCH!!

    Whatever right you had to perform those songs live died with Carl Wilson, and YOU are the dumbass who kept Smile from being released in the first place, chickenshit!

    I would have much rather had the original myself, but Brian's new version even blows away that fucking "Kokomo" shit, which is the last thing YOU managed to get on the radio.

    The Beach Boys are dead, Michael. Respect your cousins (all three of them) and let it rest in peace.
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    I have no comment other than...


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    Originally posted by FORD
    Hey Mike, get a clue......

    Brian Wilson **IS** the Beach Boys, you stupid dress wearing Maharishi Loving fucking sponge off your cousin your entire adult life BITCH!!

    Whatever right you had to perform those songs live died with Carl Wilson, and YOU are the dumbass who kept Smile from being released in the first place, chickenshit!

    I would have much rather had the original myself, but Brian's new version even blows away that fucking "Kokomo" shit, which is the last thing YOU managed to get on the radio.

    The Beach Boys are dead, Michael. Respect your cousins (all three of them) and let it rest in peace.
    I was going to make an angry post about MIKE LOVE...but now I don't need to.

    That fucking guy was a major reason that a brilliant album (SMILE, 1967) never came out.
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    I was wondering how long it would take for Mike to get the lawsuits rolling, and sadly, I'm not surprised at all by it. Mike is MORE than content to rot the Beach Boys' collective legacy away in casinos across the U.S. while Brian's actually got a CAREER again. I guess to Mike's thought this will be the biggest payday he's had since 1988, if he wins...

    Mike's just a very, very sour person, all ways around. "The Beach Boys", as they are today, are a fucking joke...stacked up next to Van Halen and Van Halen looks rather respectable as a band...hanger-on Bruce Johnson doesn't do anything to add any credibility either, and I don't give a fuck who says otherwise.

    I REALLY hope this shit gets thrown out of court ASAP.

    Moreover, from the realms of Fantasyland, it would be FUCKING GRATE if Mike, Al, Bruce and Brian could all get eye-to-eye on a project in the future to put the Beach Boys away CORRECTLY. But I'm really not fooling myself on that...we'll get 5 new albums from CVH before that happens, I think.

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    About the only thing I agree with Mike on is that I would rather have the original album released (with maybe some limited overdubbing to finish it). If Brian had taken all the original tapes and brought down Al, Mike and Bruce to finish some of the little vocal bits and used his own musicians to fill in missing parts, the album would have been a little more authentic. I mean..,80% of what was on Brian's SMILE exist completely in recorded BEACH BOYS form...so I would still rather have the real deal.

    That said, it's a great album. 2004's SMILE is a masterpiece. I just wish it were the original masterpiece...

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    Originally posted by Rikk
    About the only thing I agree with Mike on is that I would rather have the original album released (with maybe some limited overdubbing to finish it). If Brian had taken all the original tapes and brought down Al, Mike and Bruce to finish some of the little vocal bits and used his own musicians to fill in missing parts, the album would have been a little more authentic. I mean..,80% of what was on Brian's SMILE exist completely in recorded BEACH BOYS form...so I would still rather have the real deal.

    That said, it's a great album. 2004's SMILE is a masterpiece. I just wish it were the original masterpiece...
    Yes, on that, I agree definately - would have been VERY nice to have it be an official Beach Boys release - and their last.

    Of course, Mike wouldn't have stood for it, so...

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    Fuck Mike.

    He is just jealous because he hasn't got 1/10th the talent Brian has.


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    Why didnt he sue when the album came out last year?

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    Originally posted by PHOENIX
    Why didnt he sue when the album came out last year?
    Probably was over in India sucking some guru's dick and didn't know about it.

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    Originally posted by FORD
    Probably was over in India sucking some guru's dick and didn't know about it.
    I'll bet the Guru was SMILEling.

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    Mike actually made money off Brian's SMiLE album, because he had a co-writing credit on 'Good Vibrations', so he would have received royaltees, but NO, that's not enough $$$ for his bling bling.

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    Mike, it's your career calling.

    Mike, you listening?



    RETIRE YOU GOD DAMN TOOL.


    Jesus, why couldn't have been you to dive into the marina or get cancer........

    Leave Brian alone for once...
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    Mike would've been pumping gas for the last forty years if it weren't for Brian.

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    Dude, you're Mike Fucking Love! You're not even a real Wilson. Nobody cares what you think. I know, you led the Beach Boys as they conqured the state-fair circuit, but honestly.... you're Mike Love. Thanks for calling, now sit down.

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    Will always dig the Beach Boys stuff up to and including Smile. Couple of decent tunes afterwards (Kokomo wasn't one of them)...

    ...who gives a shit now? Brian has been burnt out for years...had a brilliant solo album come out in 1988...why go back and do re-hashes?

    Why ANY of them are fighting over the name now...just seems silly.
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    Originally posted by Rikk
    About the only thing I agree with Mike on is that I would rather have the original album released (with maybe some limited overdubbing to finish it). If Brian had taken all the original tapes and brought down Al, Mike and Bruce to finish some of the little vocal bits and used his own musicians to fill in missing parts, the album would have been a little more authentic. I mean..,80% of what was on Brian's SMILE exist completely in recorded BEACH BOYS form...so I would still rather have the real deal.

    That said, it's a great album. 2004's SMILE is a masterpiece. I just wish it were the original masterpiece...

    For anyone who has never heard the original Beach Boys recording of "Smile", or would like a copy, it's now available at The Trader's Den (torrent/flac format)

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