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    Angry 10 Marines Killed in Bombing Near Fallujah

    WASHINGTON - Ten Marines were killed and 11 wounded by a roadside bomb near Fallujah, Iraq, in one of the deadliest attack on American troops in recent months, the Marine Corps announced on Friday. A brief statement said the Marines were from Regimental Combat Team 8, of the 2nd Marine Division. They were hit Thursday by a roadside bomb, which the military calls an improvised explosive device, made from several large artillery shells, the Marines said.

    The Marines were on a foot patrol outside of Fallujah, about 30 miles west of Baghdad. Of the 11 who were wounded, seven have returned to duty, the Marine Corps statement said. It added that Marines from the same unit continue to conduct counterinsurgency operations throughout Fallujah and surrounding areas.

    The names of those killed were withheld pending notification of their relatives, in line with usual military practice.

    Pentagon officials said they did not immediately have any information beyond was what contained in the Marine Corps statement.

    Fallujah had been a stronghold of the insurgents until U.S. forces, led by Marines, assaulted the city in November 2004. Since then the U.S. military and the Iraqi government have been working to rebuild the city and limit the return of insurgents.

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    And you expect me to be outraged at those British contractors shooting "civilians?"

    The very bastards that probably kill our boys?

    There are no civilians over there.

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    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
    And you expect me to be outraged at those British contractors shooting "civilians?"

    The very bastards that probably kill our boys?

    There are no civilians over there.
    I don't suppose it ever occurred to you that those traitorous mercenary murdering "contractor" bastards' random shooting gallery horseshit might be the reasons for the Iraqi's having the same attitude as yours, which results in them not caring who they kill?

    If your country were illegally occupied, and this kind of shit was going on, would you stop to ask for ID's, to distinguish the mercenary criminals from the ordinary occupiers?

    Sucks like Hell to be on the wrong side of this shit, but that's the reality of it. Bring the boys home now, while there's still some left to come home (outside of "transfer tubes", that is.)
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    More blood on the hands of Bush, Cheney, and Rummy.

    God Bless those Marines and their families.


    Begs the question, why do we need to be out on patrols 3 years after the Commander in Chief declared Major Combat Operations over.



    dammit.
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    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
    And you expect me to be outraged at those British contractors shooting "civilians?"

    The very bastards that probably kill our boys?

    There are no civilians over there.
    Then why'd we "liberate" them you fucking genius? People driving along airport road in civilian sedans being shot up by criminals were somehow then in FALLUJAH to plant a bomb against a legitimate military target (by the Laws of Land-Warfare, not by my personal beliefs)?

    Let's "liberate" IRAQIs so we can send overpayed hooligan mercenaries to shoot at people driving to and from work. If your so pissed off about their deaths, then why did you support sending them to invade a foreign nation to begin with?

    "Deja-vu all over again." --Yogi Berra



    Maybe it takes two tragic wars where the US fights a large portion of the populace for you fools to figure out
    what a waste it is of America's 'blood and treasure'...
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    Originally posted by FORD

    Bring the boys home now, while there's still some left to come home (outside of "transfer tubes", that is.)
    So you're suggesting the US is going to lose ??

    That they will kill all of our troops ??

    You're dispicable!
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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    So you're suggesting the US is going to lose ??

    That they will kill all of our troops ??

    You're dispicable!
    Shut up.

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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    So you're suggesting the US is going to lose ??

    That they will kill all of our troops ??

    You're dispicable!
    I'm not suggesting shit. I'm stating it as fact. The Iraqis don't want to be occupied anymore than we did in 1776 or 1812.


    There is no way to "win" an illegal war that never should have fucking happenned.

    It's not the troops' fault.

    The blame falls on the BCE, PNAC, and the Likud fascists who control them.
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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    So you're suggesting the US is going to lose ??

    That they will kill all of our troops ??

    You're dispicable!


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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    So you're suggesting the US is going to lose ??

    That they will kill all of our troops ??

    You're dispicable!
    It' not OUR war, it's now THEIR war to win or lose. We already "won," remember?

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    Originally posted by FORD
    I'm not suggesting shit. I'm stating it as fact. The Iraqis don't want to be occupied anymore than we did in 1776 or 1812.


    There is no way to "win" an illegal war that never should have fucking happenned.

    It's not the troops' fault.

    The blame falls on the BCE, PNAC, and the Likud fascists who control them.

    Ok, thank you, please drive through...

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    you have no fucking clue what's going on e
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    Yeah, right...

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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    It' not OUR war, it's now THEIR war to win or lose. We already "won," remember?
    Whatever that's supposed to mean...

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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    Whatever that's supposed to mean...
    If you don't know, then you're even more clueless than previously suspected

    Jesus, man. .. WAKE THE FUCK UP.

    Go back 3-4 years and figure it out.

    God damn

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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    It' not OUR war, it's now THEIR war to win or lose. We already "won," remember?
    I guess we need to review for ELVIS the inept.


    Topple Sadaam = accomplished

    Find WMDS = failed

    Didband Iraqi Army = accomplished

    Secure munition cahes = failed

    Secure oil fields = accomplished

    Secure Borders = failed

    Instill fear and hatred = accomplished

    Win the hearts and minds = failed

    Maintain coalition = failed

    Have oil revenues pay for rebuilding= failed

    Keep contractors from ripping us off = failed

    Pump up Halliburton stock = accomplished

    Divert National Guard from guarding our nation = accomplished

    Sacrifice over 2,100 brave men and women = accomplished

    Use chemical weapons on citizens including children = accomplished

    Bring torture back to Abu Graib = accomplished


    I could go on, but it's ELVIS, so why bother......

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    Update:

    December 3, 2005

    Bomb Kills 10 Marines at Fallouja
    A patrol searching for explosive devices is hit in a factory courtyard near the former insurgent stronghold. Four other fatalities are reported.


    By Richard Boudreaux, Times Staff Writer

    BAGHDAD — Ten Marines were killed and 11 wounded as a powerful makeshift bomb exploded near Fallouja in the deadliest insurgent attack on American troops in Iraq in almost four months, the Marine Corps said Friday.

    The deaths of four more U.S. troops were announced Friday, bringing to 18 the number of American servicemen killed in Iraq since Wednesday.

    The Fallouja blast Thursday evening was produced by a device fashioned from several large artillery shells, according to a Marine statement. It disrupted a period of relative calm in a city that was a symbol of American failure early in the war and an insurgent stronghold until a Marine-led assault just over a year ago.

    With Iraqis scheduled to elect a new parliament Dec. 15, the attack reinforced the expectation of stepped-up violence aimed at disrupting the vote. It also came at a politically sensitive time in the United States, where the Bush administration is under pressure to reduce the number of U.S. troops in Iraq.

    The Pentagon said the Marines killed at Fallouja were on foot but it provided no details of their mission or the attack. A police official in Fallouja, 35 miles west of Baghdad, said the Marines had been searching for bombs just outside the city. A Pentagon official quoted by the Reuters news agency said the bomb went off in a factory courtyard.

    It was not known how the bomb was detonated, and there was no immediate claim of responsibility.

    Makeshift bombs, which the Pentagon calls improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, are the insurgents' most lethal weapon, accounting for 60% of U.S. troop fatalities since August.

    Thursday's blast, which police said occurred two miles west of town, was the deadliest for U.S. forces in Iraq since 14 Marines and a civilian interpreter were killed Aug. 3 by a roadside bomb near Haditha. The force of that attack ripped through their lightly armored personnel carrier, causing it to flip into the air and explode.

    The troops killed at Fallouja were with Regimental Combat Team 8 of the 2nd Marine Division based at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina. The Marines said that seven of those wounded had returned to duty and their unit was still conducting counterinsurgency operations in and around Fallouja.

    Hours later, the Arabic-language television channel Al Jazeera broadcast a videotape and statement in which insurgent kidnappers holding four Christian peace activists — two Canadians, a Briton and an American — threatened to kill them by Thursday unless all prisoners in U.S. and Iraqi detention centers were released.

    The other U.S. military deaths announced Friday were those of three soldiers with the 48th Brigade Combat Team killed in a traffic accident south of Baghdad and a soldier assigned to the 2nd Marine Division who died of injuries suffered in a rocket attack near Ramadi.

    That city is the capital of Al Anbar province, which includes Fallouja and is a center for Sunni Muslim Arab insurgents opposed to the American presence and the U.S.-backed Iraqi government, which is led by Shiite Arabs and ethnic Kurds.

    At least 2,124 U.S. service members have died since the start of the war in 2003.

    Facing pressure to bring 160,000 troops home from Iraq, President Bush vigorously defended his policy Wednesday. He acknowledged the "uneven" performance of Iraqi troops but said improvements in their training would enable them gradually to assume the burden of the fighting.

    Gen. Martin Dempsey, the U.S. commander in charge of their training, said Friday that 225,000 Iraqi soldiers and police officers would be operating during the Dec. 15 election, nearly double the 130,000 fielded in January when Iraqis elected the provisional National Assembly.

    As in previous sweeps of Al Anbar since the spring, Iraqi troops joined U.S. forces Wednesday in an operation against insurgent hide-outs in the city of Hit. But the Iraqis' involvement has not diminished the death toll among U.S. troops. Ninety-six lost their lives in October, the fourth-highest monthly toll of the war, and at least 85 died in November.

    A recent assessment of Prime Minister Ibrahim Jafari's tenure, which was compiled by his office and reported Friday by Associated Press, said insurgent attacks "have continued to rise." The Iraqi armed forces and police "need to become more effective," it said, before they can meet "these huge challenges."

    Thursday's lethal attack near Fallouja appeared to undermine an American assertion that recent military sweeps in western Iraq were proving effective.

    The operations have been aimed at cutting off the flow from Syria of foreign fighters, money, explosives and other weapons. Although U.S. military officials agree that most insurgents are Iraqis, foreign fighters loyal to Jordanian militant Abu Musab Zarqawi are said to play a prominent role in the larger, more lethal attacks.

    Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, a senior military spokesman in Baghdad, said this week that the number of makeshift bombs that either exploded or were discovered and cleared fell from 1,869 in October to 1,329 last month. He called the drop "a direct result of the effectiveness of our operations."

    On Friday, officials with Iraq's Interior Ministry said it had banned all non-Iraqi Arabs from entering the country until further notice. They characterized the decision as a pre-election security measure.

    The Fallouja bombing was among the most lethal incidents involving U.S. troops.

    In January, 30 Marines and one sailor were killed in western Iraq when their helicopter crashed in bad weather. Last December, a suicide bombing in a mess tent near Mosul killed 14 U.S. soldiers and eight others. In November 2003, three downed helicopters in two incidents claimed the lives of 33 American soldiers.

    White House spokesman Scott McClellan said of Thursday's attack, "We are saddened by the loss of life, whether it's one soldier who loses his or her life, or 10 or 11, we are saddened to hear that news."

    Bush was informed of the attack but did not mention it at a morning Rose Garden appearance to announce positive economic developments. The U.S. casualties were disclosed after that event. McClellan said later that the two issues were separate.

    Sen. John W. Warner (R-Va.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said the attack illustrated a "very serious situation."

    "It appears that this group of Marines had collected, which is always a dangerous thing, in … one location," Warner said after a closed-door meeting with Pentagon officials called to discuss another topic. "And the location has been one that they felt was perfectly safe. I presume it was in an area which had been screened and cleared by operations."

    Thousands of American troops are in or near Fallouja. Unmanned aerial drones monitor the city day and night. Marine convoys shuttle between Camp Fallouja, about 12 miles from town, and a small outpost within the city that serves as police headquarters, City Hall and a convention center.

    The city became a symbol of America's early failings in the war when insurgents held the town for much of 2004, turning it into a control center for kidnappings and car bombings throughout the region.

    U.S. forces captured the city in November 2004 in the biggest battle since the toppling of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein in April 2003. For more than a year, the U.S. military and the Iraqi government have been rebuilding Fallouja, which has a functioning city council and a police force made up of local men.

    In recent months, insurgents had lowered their profile in Fallouja, although a Marine died of wounds from small-arms fire during combat in the city on Wednesday.

    Marines say the insurgent cells still in the city are probably made up of local Sunnis opposed to U.S. forces and Iraqi government troops, who are mostly Shiites from elsewhere in Iraq. Falloujans say members of Zarqawi's group lurk in villages just outside the city.

    U.S. commanders have expressed concern about the increasing use of more powerful and sophisticated improvised bombs.

    A Pentagon task force launched in 2004 developed technologies to lessen the threat, such as equipping soldiers with electronic devices to detonate the bombs before they could harm U.S. personnel.

    But the insurgents have been able to build bigger, more powerful bombs capable of shredding military vehicles' armor and destroying 5-ton trucks.

    Insurgents also have figured out how to detonate explosives in ways that elude electronic jamming, which is designed to block the signals that set off roadside bombs. In some cases, guerrillas have given up on wireless devices such as cellphones or garage-door openers, instead rigging long wires to the bombs and setting them off by hand from safe distances.

    The Pentagon recently said it was planning a larger task force, headed by a high-level general who would try to tap other U.S. agencies, businesses and academia for ideas on addressing the problem. The group has not been formed and the leader has yet to be appointed.

    Times staff writers Mark Mazzetti in Washington and Doug Smith in Los Angeles and a special correspondent in Al Anbar province contributed to this report.

    I saw the news (ABC) on this last night, it appears they stepped on a giant fucking improvised landmine with several old (152mm?) Iraqi artillery shells under a pressure plate.

    Semper Fi my brothers...
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    There's footage of this on the web...

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    If this is Cheney's "Last throes", I'd hate to see them at full steam.

    fuck.

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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    So you're suggesting the US is going to lose ??

    That they will kill all of our troops ??

    You're dispicable!




    They don't need to "kill all our troops" to win, Gump.

    jesus christ, E

    HOW MANY MORE ARE YOU WILLING TO SACRIFICE ?????

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    "Mission accomplished"!
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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    There's footage of this on the web...
    This is it. It's not graphic, but it is disturbing...

    WMV

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    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
    And you expect me to be outraged at those British contractors shooting "civilians?"

    The very bastards that probably kill our boys?

    There are no civilians over there.
    Look Brian, if foreign troops and their 'private cuntractors' where in my country invading and shooting the place up I would/will do the exact same thing.

    You are wrong.

    And more of your 'boys' WILL be killed.

    I'm thinking of joining the Iraqi insurgents if I can get over there, but I can also fight jackasses like you over here.

    Calling you a jackass insults jackasses.

    Grow up or join up.

    Or shut up.


    =PtS=
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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    This is it. It's not graphic, but it is disturbing...

    WMV
    As if a 'torture' President isn't worse.

    C'mon folks, FOCUS!

    This ISN'T our country.

    We're in a war HERE.

    There is a revolution formenting in the closed down auto industry plants in Detroit right now.

    Polish your carbines.

    The ones who get the politicians your names will go down in history.



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    Originally posted by ELVIS
    So you're suggesting the US is going to lose ??

    That they will kill all of our troops ??

    You're dispicable!
    Ever since the little A-bomb you could wipe out entire divisons of troops with one bomb.

    I agree.

    Get them out now before they get nuked more than they already are with the depleted uranium everywhere.

    You can put those new plasma bombs on a guided missle and knock out nuclear powered aircraft carrier.

    That's going to happen too sooner or later if the U.S. keeps shooting 'em up in this new age of warfare.

    It's bound to happen.

    WWIII.




    PS Depleted uranium is an oxymoron like 'non-lethal' weapons that keep killing everybody.

    C'mon folks, the revolution is here.

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