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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Jimmy View Post
    I thought this was a thread about The Buffalo Bar in in Las Vegas,
    a well-known hangout for gay guys..........

    you queers.
    What's it like inside?
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    that was the best ya could do,
    when I gave you a softball like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Jimmy View Post
    that was the best ya could do,
    when I gave you a softball like that?

    This is sports talk, not gay-bar-tours-USA...

    Get out of my thread, PowerBottom Jimmy!

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    Are the Buffalo Bills thinking of returning to the No-Huddle, "hurry-up" offense? Without Jim Kelly? I dunno...

    April 30, 2009 4:33 PM

    Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Graham

    After several years of offensive tedium, the Buffalo Bills might actually be changing the way they operate.

    A team source says the Bills are gearing up to run a no-huddle offense in 2009. It would maximize their skill players and perhaps neutralize any offensive-line deficiencies by wearing out defenders.

    Sam Wyche, the coach who pioneered the up-tempo, three-receiver offense, thinks the Bills have assembled the components to support such a transformation.


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    According to a source, Bills quarterback Trent Edwards will be operating the no-huddle offense this season.
    "Buffalo's sitting pretty with all those guys," Wyche said from his home in South Carolina. "Believe me."

    Wyche installed the entertaining no-huddle offense as head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals in the 1980s. Bills offensive coordinator Turk Schonert learned the no-huddle as quarterback Boomer Esiason's backup. Schonert also was Wyche's quarterbacks coach when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers ran the no-huddle in the 1990s.

    Bills fans became enamored with a no-huddle offense known as the K-Gun, which Jim Kelly so masterfully conducted during their Super Bowl years. A significant reason the Bills tried it was because Wyche's no-huddle Bengals beat them in the 1988 AFC title game.

    The timing would be right for a reprise.

    The Bills have dangerous receivers Terrell Owens, Lee Evans and Josh Reed, versatile running backs Marshawn Lynch, Fred Jackson and Dominic Rhodes and quarterback Trent Edwards, who they believe can make quick decisions at the line of scrimmage.

    "The no-huddle lends itself to guys that are big-play guys," Wyche said, "because if you get a defense that's just a little fatigued, just a little off their first-step quickness, and you get the explosive guys, they can hit the home run.

    "They have those quick-strike guys."

    The Bills also signed a brainy center to make the line calls. Geoff Hangartner scored 47 out of 50 on his Wonderlic intelligence test before the 2005 draft. That's supposedly the record among offensive linemen.

    The Bills declined to draft a potential replacement for Pro Bowl left tackle Jason Peters, choosing instead to select guards Eric Wood and Andy Levitre.

    Jim Ritcher, Buffalo's left guard on those K-Gun teams, noted the importance of mobility in a no-huddle offense.

    "We were sort of smaller and could run better than some of the other lineman in the league that were much bigger than us," Ritcher said from his home in North Carolina.

    Wyche said the no-huddle offense works on three levels.

    "No. 1, you cut down the recovery time and the defense wears down," Wyche said. "No. 2, the defense has a real tough time getting substitutes in, and the offense gets natural mismatches. No. 3, defensive coordinators have a hard time sending in intricate blitzes because of the time it takes, and you never know when it's going to be a quick snap. So you simplify the defenses you're going to see."

    Defenses usually can keep up for about a quarter before they begin to fatigue against a persistent no-huddle attack.

    "Every 20 seconds we were getting off a play," Ritcher said. "It's not really difficult, but you have to be in good shape. Defense is so much tougher than offense anyways, when you're running all over the field like a defensive player has to do. It's much more tiring.

    "Teams saw that they couldn't replace their defense or change their schemes. They stayed in their defense the whole series until there was a timeout or a penalty. We could just exploit whatever they were in with Jim Kelly and Frank Reich knowing what to do."

    Wyche is familiar with much of the Bills' personnel. He was their quarterbacks coach under Mike Mularkey in 2004 and 2005. Wyche did not work with Edwards, who was drafted in 2007, but thinks highly of him.

    "You always look for two things in quarterbacks: They've got to be smart, and they've got to be accurate," Wyche said. "If they're tall, that's a plus. If they can run, that's a plus. If they got a rifle arm, that's a plus. But if they're smart and accurate you can figure out a way to win."

    Edwards, a Stanford graduate, completed 65.5 percent of his passes last year. That was the NFL's seventh-best efficiency rate.

    One of the overlooked elements of a no-huddle offense is a sure-handed tight end. The Bills released the droptastic Robert Royal and drafted Shawn Nelson out of Southern Miss in the fourth round. Nelson is balanced, but known more for his catching ability than his blocking.

    "Where the no-huddle is most effective is if you got a tight end that can step out a few yards and be a quick receiver and you've got a running back who can cheat out to the weak side and be a quick receiver out of the backfield," Wyche said.

    "You don't have to substitute to get four wide receivers. You can get your third and fourth receiver from your tight end or your backs. That's when you really optimize your offense."

    All three Buffalo backs can catch. Lynch had 47 receptions for 300 yards and a touchdown last year. Jackson had 37 catches for 317 yards. Rhodes caught 45 passes for 302 yards and three touchdowns as a part-time starter for the Indianapolis Colts, the preeminent no-huddle team.

    "It's not that hard, and the players get to really like it because they get more involved in the offense," Wyche said. "They get to feel like they're more in charge.

    "In the no-huddle everything is lining up at a much faster tempo. You're not in a two-minute mode, but you're not in slow-mo either. The Bills' opponents can't practice that tempo."


    Incidentally, Graham used to write for the Buffalo News, so he does have sources...

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    Bills fire offensive coordinator Schonert

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    Updated: September 4, 2009, 2:20 PM EDT

    ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) - Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Turk Schonert has been fired after the offense's dismal performance in the preseason.

    The move was announced by coach Dick Jauron on Friday, less than a day after the Bills (1-4) closed their preseason with a 17-6 loss to Detroit.

    Quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt will take over as the Bills prepare to open the season at New England on Sept. 14.

    Schonert was responsible for installing a no-huddle offense this year in a bid to keep defenses guessing and to take advantage of new receiver Terrell Owens. The plan has so far failed to work for a first-team offense that generated 279 yards, 15 first downs and 3 points in 15 series this preseason.

    Overall, the Bills were outscored 75-12 in the first half and failed to score a touchdown in their final eight-plus quarters, including a 17-0 loss at Pittsburgh last weekend.

    "It didn't seem like we were progressing," Jauron said, adding he consulted with team owner Ralph Wilson earlier in the day. Jauron said Wilson told him it was up to him. "It was a decision I needed to make and I did it."

    Jauron said he began considering the move over the past day.

    The offense's struggles were partly due to the absence of Owens, who missed the final four preseason games with a sprained toe. Another factor was the team's decision to completely retool its offensive line, which is projected to include two rookie starters at guard, first-round pick Eric Wood and second-rounder Andy Levitre.

    Schonert was entering his second year as the team's coordinator after serving as Buffalo's quarterbacks coach. He was spotted leaving the Bills facility about 30 minutes before the team's official announcement.

    Schonert becomes the third offensive coordinator fired this week, after Kansas City's Chan Gailey was fired on Monday and Tampa Bay's Jeff Jagodzinski was let go on Thursday. Schonert was regarded as a key supporter of quarterback Trent Edwards, as the two are Stanford alums.

    Van Pelt is entering his fourth season with the team as coach and previously spent nine seasons playing for the Bills as a backup quarterback. He's familiar with Edwards and also familiar with the no-huddle scheme, having played behind Hall-of-Famer Jim Kelly, who ran the no-huddle K-Gun attack.

    The Bills now move on to their sixth offensive coordinator since the start of the 2001 season.

    The decision to fire Schonert shouldn't have come as a surprise after the unit's struggles this preseason, and after Wilson expressed concern about the offense after last season when he elected to retain Jauron and his staff.

    Wilson, at the time, said he shared "many of the fans' dissatisfaction with our offensive game management," and added he would not be complacent in seeking improvement.

    The Bills offense finished 25th in total yards in the NFL last season, the sixth straight year the unit finished 25th or worse.

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    Wow, three offensive coordinators fired in a single week. The Chiefs, Buccaneers and now Buffalo. I question the thinking here. I mean a week before the season starts, you finally figure out that your OC is no good? Granted, better now than once the season is underway, but still you have to wonder why this wasn't hashed out in training camp or even earlier in the off-season.
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    What's really fascinating here is the fact that (rumor has it) Ralph Wilson wanted Turk gone because if his mismanagement of the Bills offense during the pre-season (no touchdowns by the first string running a semi-no-huddle popgun attack generaled by a skittish QB).

    But Dick Jauron gets to keep his job after three seasons of 7-9...

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    Jauron keeps his job because there's some Marv Levy to him. He runs a tight ship...although I'm sure that will be tested some.

    I think Jauron is crap as a coach...but Levy and Wilson both like him...so he stays.

    This is his last chance though.

    Thing is...if TO pays off...that team has a chance to be good. We shall see though. If they struggle...

    Get ready to ride the TO train into the fiery depths of hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by POJO_Risin View Post
    Jauron keeps his job because there's some Marv Levy to him. He runs a tight ship...although I'm sure that will be tested some.

    I think Jauron is crap as a coach...but Levy and Wilson both like him...so he stays.

    This is his last chance though.

    Thing is...if TO pays off...that team has a chance to be good. We shall see though. If they struggle...

    Get ready to ride the TO train into the fiery depths of hell.

    That may be true. But he also works for less, which is also why he stays. Wilson and Levy, the geriatric corp, want to control everything and have yes-men at the helm.

    The Bills don't even have a real GM, just some marketing guy with the title...

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    To tell you the truth Nick, I'll be watching a few more Bills games this year, in addition to the regular two meetings between your squad and the Dolphins. This new "no-huddle" offense should be an interesting experiment. I first saw it used during the Hall Of Fame game against Tennessee a few weeks ago, and it was quite effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    To tell you the truth Nick, I'll be watching a few more Bills games this year, in addition to the regular two meetings between your squad and the Dolphins. This new "no-huddle" offense should be an interesting experiment. I first saw it used during the Hall Of Fame game against Tennessee a few weeks ago, and it was quite effective.
    Yup! An interesting experiment in three-and-out, and a pretty solid defense spending record minutes on the field...

    Don't get me wrong, I love the no-huddle, and various other outside-the-box football as 95&#37; of the league runs the same boring schemes. But the reason it worked before started with the line. Buffalo's line was monstrous in the 1990s with Will Wolford, Kent Hull, and House Ballard. That's where it started. Then you had Kelly who was fearless, one of the best all purpose backs ever (Thomas), a consistently very good receiving corp.

    Right now, all the BILLS have is a really good receiving corp, an overrated running back that can't stay out of trouble, a patchwork line more known for getting shoved into their own QB than for run-blocking, and a quarterback that looks gun-shy and without any confidence. And the whole point of the no-huddle is to have the QB call the plays, not the ex-QB OC...

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    The line can be the best in the league...but if a QB doesn't know how to audible well...the no huddle is pointless.

    Yes, the line is important for any team...but I just don't think Edwards is the guy you want running any sort of no huddle.

    Kelly had called his own plays since college...and ran a no-huddle at times under Mouse Davis with the Houston Gamblers in the USFL. Davis created the run and shoot, and often allowed Kelly to no huddle to help created receiving mismatches.

    Kelly was a better player...and had two years of practice with a faster paced philosophy.

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    Bills CB McKelvin's lawn vandalized after Pats loss
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    HAMBURG, N.Y. (AP) - The front lawn of a home belonging to Bills cornerback Leodis McKelvin was vandalized following Buffalo's season-opening loss to New England.

    Leodis McKelvin didn't have too much to smile about after Monday night's game. (Jim Rogash / Getty Images)

    Hamburg police on Tuesday confirmed the home of a Bills player was vandalized, but declined to release details of their investigation after an obscenity and the score of Monday night's game — a 25-24 loss to the Patriots — were painted in white on the player's lawn in suburban Buffalo.

    McKelvin fumbled a kickoff return with under two minutes to play and the Bills leading 24-19. Three plays later, New England's Tom Brady hit Benjamin Watson for the go-ahead touchdown as the Patriots overcome an 11-point deficit in the final 2:O6.

    Bills CB McKelvin's lawn vandalized after Pats loss - NFL News - FOX Sports on MSN

    Not cool man. Not cool. Leave the man's home alone!

    But WTF was he thinking not taking a knee? or at least hitting the deck the second he was touched? LOL

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    The Fucking Bills...seriously Nick...wanted to throw my 50" out the fucking window after that bullshit...

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    How in the hell did the Bills fuck that one up? 11 point lead with 3 minutes to go in the game and they choke! WTF? Of course, they choked in a similar fashion against my Cowboys a couple of years back, also on Monday Night Football. Regardless, the Patriots look very vulnerable this year and will lose a few games, even with Brady back in the fold. At least I'm hoping so.
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    that was a big pile of dogshit Monday night. Thanks buffalo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by POJO_Risin View Post
    The Fucking Bills...seriously Nick...wanted to throw my 50" out the fucking window after that bullshit...
    I wanted to go over and shit on his lawn!! But I guess the giant silver lining to that shitstorm of a cloud is that the offensive line looked WAAAAYYY better than anyone anticipated, Edwards looked good, the defense was solid, and Alex Van Pelt might be a real find as an offensive coordinator...

    If, and I mean IF they can play like that most Sundays, the Bills could be dangerous - especially if Trent Edwards finds his pair and starts to make long throws to Lee and Terrell....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I wanted to go over and shit on his lawn!! But I guess the giant silver lining to that shitstorm of a cloud is that the offensive line looked WAAAAYYY better than anyone anticipated

    Well you guys still get them in Buffalo later. Maybe you can get them there.

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    Bills’ woes nobody’s fault but theirown(er)
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    A few days before the season began, I asked Ralph Wilson to speculate on the future of his beleaguered coach, Dick Jauron. What if he starts off 0-5?

    “I’ll hope he doesn’t go 0-6,” Wilson said with a laugh.

    So here we are, one month into Jauron’s “must-win” season. The Bills nearly upset the Patriots; they beat a bad Tampa Bay team; they fell apart late against the Saints; and last week, they were annihilated in Miami in the most distressing loss of the dreary Jauron era.

    Today, they host a winless Browns team in what some believe could be Jauron’s last stand. As the thinking goes, if the Bills can’t beat a wretched, winless team that

    just traded away its best player, Wilson will come to his senses and fire Jauron.

    I’m not so sure. What does Wilson need to find out about Jauron that he didn’t know in January? Is 1-4 any worse than 2-8, which is how the Bills finished last season?

    I can’t pretend to predict Wilson’s moods. He turns 91 next Saturday. He does things his own way. Today, he will get his Hall of Fame ring in a halftime ceremony at the stadium bearing his name.

    It will be an ambivalent day for Bills fans. Wilson’s induction to Canton was a celebration of 50 years of Bills football. But while fans are grateful to Wilson for the team’s continued existence in Buffalo, they hold the owner chiefly responsible for the Bills’ decade-long run of futility. Some are even rooting against the Bills,

    hoping a loss might mean the end of Jauron. Wilson might be booed. The ring ceremony could turn ugly. It could push Wilson into firing his unpopular coach.

    Still, I doubt it. The Bills brought back Jauron in the name of continuity. Firing him after five games would make the decision seem even more ill-advised.

    It would have cost $9 million to fire Jauron after extending his contract (Wilson fought with Wade Phillips for one-tenth of that). The remaining $8 million or so would be a lot to swallow.

    Wilson traded Jason Peters, because he didn’t want to pay top dollar. He cut Langston Walker, a $25 million mistake, to save money. He saved money by not bringing in a veteran linebacker and leaving Jauron without any experienced backups. Looks to me as if saving money was a bigger consideration than saving Jauron’s job.

    You almost feel sorry for Jauron. He’s a career failure as a head coach. But how can you judge the guy on the team’s performance this year?

    If Jauron was on the hot seat, why did management turn the burner up to high? It’s almost as if Russ Brandon and Co. created a trail of excuses, so Wilson wouldn’t have to fire Jauron this season.

    Jauron is the perfect coach for this situation, a man who stands up in the worst of times and tells us all is well. His players work hard. He loves them, and they love him. They even sang him “Happy Birthday!”

    The Bills have bought Jauron’s silence. To borrow a quote from one of Terrell Owens’ former advisers, Jauron has 9 million reasons not to complain about the hand he’s been dealt. Why make a fuss about inferior backups when you got the deal of a lifetime for losing eight out of 10?

    The closest anyone has come to questioning management lately was Perry Fewell, the defensive coordinator. Fewell said last week’s effort against Miami was unacceptable. He showed his players 26 plays on film, and there was a mistake on every one.

    “So I’m not going to stand there and say, ‘Well, that’s OK, fellas,’ ” Fewell said. “We’re not going to put the same guys on the field and do the same thing again. Bull crap. We’re going to get it right.”

    They weren’t going to stand for it, no siree. Fewell took out middle linebacker Marcus Buggs, an undrafted free agent whose only previous NFL experience had been on special teams. He put in Ashlee Palmer, an undrafted rookie, and moved Kawika Mitchell to the middle.

    Fewell gave his front four a pass, saying they were “decent” in Miami. They give up 472 yards rushing over two games, and they’re not really the problem.

    Mitchell said it wasn’t as if they were getting run over. Really?How many times do we have to hear that Jauron’s brilliant schemes have been compromised by someone not “filling his gap?” Somebody make a tackle once in awhile. How about Aaron Maybin, the first-round pick, making a contribution?

    Mitchell said, “A lot of people just have to take ownership.” Funny he should use the term “ownership.”

    Chances are, the Bills will make it a happy occasion by beating Cleveland, giving Jauron another notch on his belt against bad teams. Beat the bad teams, lose to the good ones. That’s continuity.

    Fire Jauron? It seems to me that things are going according to plan.

    jsullivan@buffnews.com

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    Well...if the first half is any indication...

    You'll have a new coach in no time...

    What about Chucky?

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    the Browns are a true benchmark...

    if you lose to them, you're shitty.

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    one of the local writers said the Browns are a better team than the Raiders, and i'm thinking maybe but the Raiders managed to win a game this season.
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    Ok, Buffalo fans, you guys are officially shitty now!!

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    I thought you'd get a kick out of this one, Nick.


    Bills fans rent billboard to advertise discontent

    By JOHN WAWROW, AP Sports Writer Oct 14, 8: 07 pm EDT

    ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP)—It didn’t take long for Ryan Abshagen to discover how many Buffalo Bills fans are unhappy with their team and want owner Ralph Wilson to make sweeping changes.

    In a little more than a week, Abshagen, an unemployed 18-year-old from New Freedom, Pa., raised enough money—$1,402 and counting as of Wednesday— through an Internet campaign to rent a billboard and advertise a message of discontent for everyone in Buffalo to see.

    “I honestly never thought it would ever be this big,” Abshagen said. “Fans are disgruntled. It’s out there. It’s big. People are going to hear about it.”

    Starting early Monday and running for a week, the message will be flashed up to 3,000 times a day on a digital billboard overlooking Interstate 190 on the south side of the city, said Abshagen after signing a contract with an advertising company.

    The display will feature a message that reads, “It’s time to clean house, RALPH,” referring to Wilson. Next to that will be a checklist of three names: Jauron; the team’s chief college scout Tom Modrak; and vice president of pro personnel John Guy.

    The level of fan frustration in Buffalo has been evident since the Bills missed the playoffs for a ninth straight season with their third consecutive 7-9 finish a year ago. It’s reached a boiling point again with Buffalo at 1-4 and coming off an ugly 6-3 loss to Cleveland on Sunday.

    Bills fans showed their displeasure by booing the team numerous times during a game in which the team’s offense failed to score a touchdown for the second time in three weeks. Some fans were spotted wearing paper bags on their heads, while one group stood up to display matching white T-shirts with letters on them that spelled: “FIRE DICK NOW!”

    Jauron, in his fourth season, is on the hot seat for the team’s dreadful start. Modrak and Guy are being blamed for failing to build a competitive roster.

    The Bills declined comment when asked about the billboard.

    Jauron has declined to discuss his status, but has previously acknowledged the criticism.

    Bills punter Brian Moorman(notes) rallied to Jauron’s support when informed of the billboard.

    “It doesn’t discourage me because I know there’s a lot more people out there that wouldn’t do something like that. But it is a free country,” Moorman said. “The important thing is that inside these walls, (Jauron) has our support. We believe in him.”

    Abshagen said he first proposed the billboard idea on a Bills fan message board following the team’s 38-10 loss at Miami on Oct. 4.

    A few days later, he designed a web site and began seeking donations. Abshagen said the site attracted little attention until several media outlets mentioned the campaign in stories, particularly after the loss to the Browns.

    “That was the one that tilted the scales,” he said. “That was embarrassing.”

    The response was so overwhelming that Abshagen said he raised the necessary $1,125 to rent the billboard for a week by Tuesday night. He’s now begun a second campaign to raise another $1,125 to extend the rental for one more week or rent a second billboard.

    Any leftover money, he said, will be donated to charity.

    “We don’t hate anybody,” Abshagen said, when asked about how the message might be interpreted. “The donors and myself included, we don’t mean any harm or wish to insult anyone. We simply just want to get our voice out as fans.”

    And he doesn’t think it’ll make any difference among fans should the Bills win on Sunday when they travel to play the New York Jets.

    “I think the fans are fed up enough that it won’t even have an effect,” Abshagen said. “We are in too deep at this point.”


    Bills fans rent billboard to advertise discontent - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

    Also: http://www.twobillsdrive.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by POJO_Risin View Post
    Well...if the first half is any indication...

    You'll have a new coach in no time...

    What about Chucky?
    'Cept Ralph and the retards at "One Bills Drive" were actually fucking stupid enough to extend his contract last year for three more years at $3 million a pop, which means that Ralph is too cheap to even fire him. But who can blame the Bills for resigning a coach that lost almost all his games in the second half of the season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by damngoodtimes View Post
    the Browns are a true benchmark...

    if you lose to them, you're shitty.

    now, the Browns have two quarters left to fuck this up, so Bills fans shouldn't worry just yet.
    I figured out that the Bills were shitty when they: fired their O-coordinator two weeks before the season, completely gutted their offensive line by starting rookies have are by far the least experienced in games played in the NFL, have a PR-man masquerading as their GM, a stodgy owner too old to figure out where he is and too cheap to get a decent organization in here, extended a coach who looks like a lifeless cliche with all the passion of a Halloween dummy at the podium, and with some exceptions on their defense and special teams, seem to resemble a rudderless ship sailing in circles as an organization repeating the same mistakes over and over...

    Oh yeah, I forgot Trent (AKA "Captain Checkdown") Edwards is our QB of the future...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    I thought you'd get a kick out of this one, Nick.


    Bills fans rent billboard to advertise discontent

    By JOHN WAWROW, AP Sports Writer Oct 14, 8: 07 pm EDT

    ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP)—It didn’t take long for Ryan Abshagen to discover how many Buffalo Bills fans are unhappy with their team and want owner Ralph Wilson to make sweeping changes.

    In a little more than a week, Abshagen, an unemployed 18-year-old from New Freedom, Pa., raised enough money—$1,402 and counting as of Wednesday— through an Internet campaign to rent a billboard and advertise a message of discontent for everyone in Buffalo to see.

    “I honestly never thought it would ever be this big,” Abshagen said. “Fans are disgruntled. It’s out there. It’s big. People are going to hear about it.”

    Starting early Monday and running for a week, the message will be flashed up to 3,000 times a day on a digital billboard overlooking Interstate 190 on the south side of the city, said Abshagen after signing a contract with an advertising company.

    The display will feature a message that reads, “It’s time to clean house, RALPH,” referring to Wilson. Next to that will be a checklist of three names: Jauron; the team’s chief college scout Tom Modrak; and vice president of pro personnel John Guy.

    The level of fan frustration in Buffalo has been evident since the Bills missed the playoffs for a ninth straight season with their third consecutive 7-9 finish a year ago. It’s reached a boiling point again with Buffalo at 1-4 and coming off an ugly 6-3 loss to Cleveland on Sunday.

    Bills fans showed their displeasure by booing the team numerous times during a game in which the team’s offense failed to score a touchdown for the second time in three weeks. Some fans were spotted wearing paper bags on their heads, while one group stood up to display matching white T-shirts with letters on them that spelled: “FIRE DICK NOW!”

    Jauron, in his fourth season, is on the hot seat for the team’s dreadful start. Modrak and Guy are being blamed for failing to build a competitive roster.

    The Bills declined comment when asked about the billboard.

    Jauron has declined to discuss his status, but has previously acknowledged the criticism.

    Bills punter Brian Moorman(notes) rallied to Jauron’s support when informed of the billboard.

    “It doesn’t discourage me because I know there’s a lot more people out there that wouldn’t do something like that. But it is a free country,” Moorman said. “The important thing is that inside these walls, (Jauron) has our support. We believe in him.”

    Abshagen said he first proposed the billboard idea on a Bills fan message board following the team’s 38-10 loss at Miami on Oct. 4.

    A few days later, he designed a web site and began seeking donations. Abshagen said the site attracted little attention until several media outlets mentioned the campaign in stories, particularly after the loss to the Browns.

    “That was the one that tilted the scales,” he said. “That was embarrassing.”

    The response was so overwhelming that Abshagen said he raised the necessary $1,125 to rent the billboard for a week by Tuesday night. He’s now begun a second campaign to raise another $1,125 to extend the rental for one more week or rent a second billboard.

    Any leftover money, he said, will be donated to charity.

    “We don’t hate anybody,” Abshagen said, when asked about how the message might be interpreted. “The donors and myself included, we don’t mean any harm or wish to insult anyone. We simply just want to get our voice out as fans.”

    And he doesn’t think it’ll make any difference among fans should the Bills win on Sunday when they travel to play the New York Jets.

    “I think the fans are fed up enough that it won’t even have an effect,” Abshagen said. “We are in too deep at this point.”


    Bills fans rent billboard to advertise discontent - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

    Also: Buffalo Bills News and Discussion (Two Bills Drive)
    Yeah, this is all over the talk radio today. I'm not really that happy about it and just makes everyone look bad. I do think Jauron is about out of here though...

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    Buffalo Bills Coach Search: Pursuing Bill Cowher, Leslie Frazier
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    A source tells 2 On Your Side's Adam Benigni that the Buffalo Bills continue to pursue former Steelers Coach Bill Cowher to become the team's next head coach.

    BUFFALO, NY - A source tells 2 On Your Side's Adam Benigni that the Buffalo Bills continue to pursue former Steelers Coach Bill Cowher to become the team's next head coach.

    The revelation comes after reports that team management quietly met with Cowher last week. In recent days, speculation has grown that the Bills could potentially lure Cowher to Buffalo if owner Ralph Wilson makes Cowher a massive offer.

    NFL.com writer Vic Carucci said, while it remains unlikely Cowher will land in Buffalo, it will not be for lack of effort by the Bills.

    "I do know that the Bills have not let up in their pursuit and have tried very hard - and are trying very hard - to convince him to come to the Bills," Carucci said. "But based on everything I'm hearing, it's not necessarily [that] he sees [this] as something he wants to do."

    Several published reports indicate Cowher may be interested in coaching the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, if the job opens up.

    If the Bills do not land Cowher, they may have to turn to a less experienced coordinator candidate. A source also tells 2 On Your Side's Adam Benigni that the Buffalo Bills are in the process of setting up an interview with Leslie Frazier about the team's head coaching vacancy.

    Frazier is the Minnesota Vikings Assistant Head Coach and Defensive Coordinator.

    The Bills need to be granted permission by the Vikings before speaking with Frazier.

    The source did not know how soon the interview would happen, but said it could be as early as Thursday.

    "He is imminently qualified for the job," Carucci said of Frazier. "He has really earned his way through the league as an assistant coach, and he is one of the most highly-respected coordinators in the league."

    While respected around the league, Frazier does not exactly fit the coaching profile laid out by Bills General Manager Buddy Nix, who said he is looking for a coach with head coaching experience. Frazier has no such experience in the NFL. The team is also believed to be searching for an offensive-minded coach.

    Channel 2 Sports Director Ed Kilgore reported that former Ravens Coach Brian Billick appears to be very interested in the job, although it is unclear if the Bills are showing mutual interest.

    Several published reports indicate the Bills may also interview Jets Offensive Coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, Chargers Defensive Coordinator Ron Rivera, and Cardinals Offensive Line Coach Russ Grimm.

    Former Chargers Coach Marty Schottenheimer recently said that it is unlikely he would coach the Bills; however, he previously had ruled out a return to coaching altogether.

    wgrz.com | Buffalo, NY | Buffalo Bills Coach Search: Pursuing Bill Cowher, Leslie Frazier

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    the bills are movin' to l.a.
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    There's a company that plans to build a stadium outside of L.A., and that company also has plans to steal a couple of NFL teams from other cities. Their intended targets of thievery: the Buffalo Bills and Jacksonville Jaguars. From the AP:

    Majestic Realty Co. managing partner John Semcken said the company is still considering at least seven franchises for a new stadium some 25 miles east of Los Angeles.

    They also include the San Francisco 49ers, San Diego Chargers, Minnesota Vikings, St. Louis Rams and Oakland Raiders.

    But he said the Jaguars and the Bills are at the top of the list because they play in small markets that tamp down their earning potential and because they have little hope of building larger venues in their home regions

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    If they poach the Bills, Buffalo (the city) might as well pack up and shut the doors

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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
    the bills are movin' to l.a.
    Um, not quite yet. They're more likely to go to Toronto, ONT than L.A. And how many teams would that be that L.A. has by now?

    In any case, I'd say the Jags are far more of a likely short term target as the fans there hardly notice them anymore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PETE'S BROTHER View Post
    There's a company that plans to build a stadium outside of L.A., and that company also has plans to steal a couple of NFL teams from other cities. Their intended targets of thievery: the Buffalo Bills and Jacksonville Jaguars. From the AP:

    Majestic Realty Co. managing partner John Semcken said the company is still considering at least seven franchises for a new stadium some 25 miles east of Los Angeles.

    They also include the San Francisco 49ers, San Diego Chargers, Minnesota Vikings, St. Louis Rams and Oakland Raiders.

    But he said the Jaguars and the Bills are at the top of the list because they play in small markets that tamp down their earning potential and because they have little hope of building larger venues in their home regions
    The Bills don't need a "larger venue." They've one of the higher capacity stadiums in the NFL (around 73,000 IIRC). They will need a newer stadium eventually, but that's years down the road possibly along a revitalized Waterfront...

    And I just don't think LA is really an NFL city, too much to do or something? Or maybe the proximity of three other NFL franchises make people not care as much...

    You left out this part:

    There's no reason to panic yet, though, as we're a long way from anything like that happening. A lot of people have wanted to put a team in L.A., and every single one of them has failed to get their act together. When it comes to landing an NFL team, L.A., for about fifteen years now, has been all talk.

    Yeah, let's get excited about bringing a franchise to a city that could give a fuck...

    I wouldn't worry too much about it just yet, Bills and Jags fans. Of course, it probably wouldn't hurt to start, you know, filling your stadium, either.

    The assclown who wrote this article obviously didn't check his facts--the Bills have one of the highest attendances in the NFL, even though they've basically sucked since 2001...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoes, Sensible View Post
    If they poach the Bills, Buffalo (the city) might as well pack up and shut the doors
    I dunno. Despite the fact that the games still usually sell out after a decade of shittyness, there seems to be an increasing frustration here as to whether it's worth it on Sunday to watch this grab-ass organization that is a borderline laughingstock that no one wants to come too anymore...

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    Marshawn Lynch: P.O.S.

    Report: Lynch Allegedly Took $20 From Police Officer's Wife

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    Buffalo, NY -- According to a report in Saturday's edition of The Buffalo News, Bills running back Marshawn Lynch has been accused of stealing $20 from a woman last month. The report states that a complaint was filed by Buffalo Police Sgt. William Crawford with Hamburg police, after Lynch allegedly took the money from his wife while she and a friend were at TGI Friday's at McKinley Mall.

    According to the story, Lynch took the $20 bill from Crawford's wife as she prepared to pay the check. When approached by his wife's friend about the money, Lynch allegedly said "Do you know who I am? There's going to be consequences."

    The complaint was filed just one day after the incident, but Crawford waited until recently to make the story public because, as he told the News, his wife is "terrified" of Lynch.

    WGR 550 SportsRadio - Home of the Buffalo Sabres - Report: Lynch Allegedly Took $20 From Police Officer's Wife

    Get this guy the fuck out of here...

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    Only in Hamburg. LMAO. For starters, I'm shocked TGIF is still open!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I dunno. Despite the fact that the games still usually sell out after a decade of shittyness, there seems to be an increasing frustration here as to whether it's worth it on Sunday to watch this grab-ass organization that is a borderline laughingstock that no one wants to come too anymore...
    Well I agree, I hear it from my friends at home all the time, but there WILL be economic consequences to the decision. And a BIG honkin' plot of land out in OP that will go dark.

    And probably because I'm older - I was around before the superbowl run when the Bills were this unpopular and people were as disgusted as they are now - and only then did Ralph cough up the money to beef up the team and staff. Of course, this time, the climate of football has changed so significantly , and he's dotty as a giraffe.

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