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    Talking Saddam Cries Torture

    Saddam: Americans tortured me


    Wednesday 21 December 2005, 20:14 Makka Time, 17:14 GMT


    Saddam: Our enemy is the American government


    The trial of Saddam Hussein adjourned until Thursday, capping a session highlighted by the former leader's allegation that he was beaten by his American captors.


    "I have been hit by the Americans and tortured. Yes, I've been beaten on every place of my body and the signs are all over my body," the deposed Iraqi president said on Wednesday.

    The trial's chief prosecutor said that if American-led multinational forces had abused Saddam, he would be transferred into the custody of Iraqi troops. The prosecutor, Jaafar al-Mousawi, said he would investigate.

    Speaking in Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack described Saddam's claim as "highly ironic" and said he knew of nothing to substantiate it.

    "Look, he's been given to grandstanding in this trial, but where the focus should be is on the testimony of those people who were victimised ... That's what people should be listening to."

    Just three of the four prosecution witnesses scheduled to give evidence on Wednesday had time to take the stand before the presiding judge called the adjournment at 8.40pm (1740 GMT).

    Saddam, 68, on trial for mass murder, has been detained by US forces since his capture two years ago.

    'Brave men'

    "Our enemy is not the American people. Our enemy is the American government which is destroying Iraq," Saddam said.

    He also described fighters resisting the US forces' presence in the country as "brave men", adding that they were doing "good work".

    Nevertheless, in one of the more conciliatory statements he has made during the trial, he said those guilty of the alleged torture described by the witnesses should be punished, apparently distancing himself from the accusations.


    Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti angrily
    denied all charges against him


    "When I hear that any Iraqi has been hurt it hurts me too," the Saddam said. "The wrongs that were done to those people were wrong and, according to law, those who did it should get what they deserve."

    He had defiantly boycotted the last hearing two weeks ago after denouncing the legality of the tribunal and telling the judge to "go to hell".

    Saddam's half-brother, Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti, who on Wednesday was accused of supervising torture sessions after a 1982 assassination bid against the then Iraqi leader, told the court his hands were "as clean as those of Moses".

    "This hand has committed no crime," he said after a witness, who testified from behind curtains to preserve his anonymity, said he was tortured with electricity while Barzan looked on, eating grapes.

    Saddam and seven of his associates, including Barzan, who at the time was in charge of the secret police, are being tried over the killing of 148 Shia civilians from the village of Dujail, north of Baghdad.

    Abu Ghraib prison

    The witness said that during one torture session "Barzan was there eating grapes and I was screaming". He said he was arrested, along with his family, a day after the assassination bid on Saddam.

    "Barzan was there eating grapes and I was screaming"

    Unidentified witness

    The secret witness said he was tortured while being held for 17 days at the Dujail intelligence centre where he identified the bodies of two of his sons whom police alleged were involved in the assassination plot.

    The witness and his family were later transferred to Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad where they spent 14 months before being exiled to a desert area.

    During his detention in Abu Ghraib, prison guards repeatedly abused the prisoners, beating them, the witness said.

    'Dripping in blood'

    Another witness, who testified earlier in full view of the cameras and witnesses, said "they would take one of us away and he would return in a sheet, dripping in blood".


    Al-Haidari: Barzan was involved
    in detainee interrogation

    Ali Mohammed Hassan al-Haidari, who was 14 at the time, said he was locked up with hundreds of others in the local intelligence headquarters after the government's clampdown.

    Saddam and his co-defendants have all pleaded not guilty to charges including murder and torture but face the death penalty if convicted.

    Al-Haidari said he recognised Barzan, who at the time was in charge of the secret police and who, he said, was involved in interrogating detainees.

    Denial

    Barzan angrily denied being involved in torture and accused the witness of lying.

    "I will call my own witness whose shoe is more honourable than you and your tribe. You dog!," he shouted at the witness.

    Addressing the presiding judge, Barzan also accused witnesses of "singing the same song", repeating similar accusations using similar words.

    "It's your duty as president of this court to convince me I'm guilty," he said.

    Defence concerns

    All eight defendants have pleaded not guilty to the charges which carry the death penalty.

    Earlier, the Qatari lawyer on Saddam's defence team once again complained about lack of security for the attorneys.


    Al-Nuaimi complained of a
    deficiency in security

    "We cannot continue with this case if there is deficiency in security," Naji al-Nuaimi said.

    "We were threatened at the airport and later put up in a house with no door to the lavatory," he complained.

    Two defence lawyers were assassinated shortly after the start of the trial on 19 October.

    The trial is not expected to extend past Thursday when it is likely to be adjourned again until mid-January because of the announcement of Iraq's election results, holidays and the Haj, the annual pilgrimage to Makka.








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    The part about "My asshole brother sat there eating grapes while I was being tortured" was especially touching. Poor Saddam









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    They should have shot his ass in that spider hole because this whole trial is turning into a fucking circus.

    Just execute the brutal fuck and be done with it.
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    That fuck shouldn't be allowed hair dye, razor, comb or street clothes.

    Put his ass in shackles and if he starts the yelling bit crack his head with a nightstick till he shuts up.

    Fuck him.

    Eating Doritos is torture!!!!!!
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    Originally posted by DrMaddVibe


    Eating Doritos is torture!!!!!!
    Well, yeah, without decent beer it is!

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    Originally posted by FORD
    Well, yeah, without decent beer it is!
    John McCain should send him some.

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    Originally posted by Cathedral
    They should have shot his ass in that spider hole because this whole trial is turning into a fucking circus.

    Just execute the brutal fuck and be done with it.
    I agree. I even figured back then when they actually PULLED HIM OUT and DIDN'T SHOOT that it was going to end up being a mistake.

    Trial my ass... Saddam's more in control of that courtroom than the judge and lawyers are...and that's no bullshit.

    When do they bring out the clowns and elephants?
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    Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
    Put his ass in shackles and if he starts the yelling a bit crack his head with a nightstick till he shuts up.

    Fuck him.

    Agreed

    He can sit and think about how we murdered both his sons until he gets his. Tough titties.
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    Pooooor widdul Saddamite!!

    CRY ME A MOTHERFUCKING RIVER!


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    If it was up to you libs, he'd still be running the torture chambers over there.
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    That is irrelevant.

    Why have we not invaded CHina or Russia and prevented them from torturing people?

    Torture was never the prime reason for invading over there, was it?

    Did Secretary Of State Colin Powell address the UN and say the main reason we want to invade Iraq is because he tortures people?

    No.

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    Originally posted by Warham
    If it was up to you libs, he'd still be running the torture chambers over there.
    Instead of us running them?



    Give me a break with that tired old shit, will ya?

    I had no problem taking out the piece of shit. Glad to do it.

    It didnt mean we needed to sacrifice 2,000+ lives, hundreds of billions of dollars, and occupy the fucking country 3 years later to do it, fuckhead.

    God DAMN I'm sick of this "you libs" shit


    NO ONE HERE has EVER posted "sure wish Saddam was still in power" warpig.

    We're the most powerful nation on earth, and now we're stuck in a guerilla / civil / urban war ???????

    The end does not always justify the means......we could have done this another way.

    you libs. fuck that tired ASS shit

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    The truth hurts, doesn't it?

    Yeah, we could have done it your way, and went to Kofi Annon and the paid-off UN for the umpteenth time, but we all know that wasn't going to happen...

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    Originally posted by Hardrock69

    Did Secretary Of State Colin Powell address the UN and say the main reason we want to invade Iraq is because he tortures people?

    No.

    WMD

    Warham's Mass Diversion

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    Originally posted by Warham
    The truth hurts, doesn't it?

    you tell me.

    Would you know the truth if you saw it?

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    "The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government -- a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people,"

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    "But once more, the United States has proven that although we are never eager to use force, when we must act in America's vital interests, we will do so."

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    Originally posted by LoungeMachine


    God DAMN I'm sick of this "you libs" shit


    You libs have a Merry Christmas...and quit being sympathetic with the enemy.

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    Warham you're disappointing me bro.

    Look - even FORD sees the hypocrisy of Saddam's claims.

    You should comment on that rather than pulling the old "you libs" thing out of your back pocket. You chickenhawk.
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    Karma is a bitch. Remember that people.
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    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
    You libs have a Merry Christmas...and quit being sympathetic with the enemy.

    Happy Kwaza you America hating Con

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    LMFAO


    I am all for him being tortured to death, for he truly deserves it.

    And I agree we must act in America's best interest.

    But there is a difference between that, and what Dick Cheney and his organ grinder Chimp are doing, that is...acting in THEIR OWN best interests at the expense of the People Of The United States.

    They are fucking CRIMINALS who need to be REMOVED FROM OFFICE.


    Happy 4th Of July everybody.

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    Originally posted by DLR'sCock
    Karma is a bitch. Remember that people.

    Yeah...if you believe in that kinda stuff!:p

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    Tim to play the cards, read um and weep!
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    Originally posted by bueno bob
    I agree. I even figured back then when they actually PULLED HIM OUT and DIDN'T SHOOT that it was going to end up being a mistake.

    Trial my ass... Saddam's more in control of that courtroom than the judge and lawyers are...and that's no bullshit.

    When do they bring out the clowns and elephants?
    Actually...The judge employing a very clever strategy...

    The more rope he has, the longer the rope to hang himself with....

    Saddam Cries Torture
    Cry me a river cunt...
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    Originally posted by Warham
    If it was up to you libs, he'd still be running the torture chambers over there.
    Yeah, only our pro-IRANAIN allies can do that now! Ha-hah!!

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    Originally posted by Warham
    "But once more, the United States has proven that although we are never eager to use force...
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