all the negative roth reviews

[bigc]

all these press experts putting down DLR, well, I got a lil story to relate to this, from across the pond and our shores(the UK).

I dunno how big it was in the US, but Fawlty Towers is often viewed as one of, if not,the best comedy series ever. When its first series came out, it was panned by a succession of critics, and the show only really took off during its first repeat run.

the rest they say is history.

just a lil example to put 2 fingers up at the critics

[bueno bob]

The show was bound to get bad reviews, anyway...anything that followed Stern was going to get bad reviews just because it was following Stern...and besides, Dave's just getting his footing at this yet, so there are going to be bugs to be worked out and I'm sure it's very far from being a smooth deal yet.

Time will tell. If nothing else, perhaps, if it fails, it'll give David time to do some material...?

Either situation (success or failure of the show) isn't necessarily a bad turn of events for the fans, either way.

[bueno bob]

God damn...will you just LOOK at her eyes?!?!?!?!?

A guy can get fucking LOST in those...

[Nickdfresh]

Van HALEN themselves, received poor critical reviews in the late 70's. They are now almost universally praised by said music critics....

[J-Axe]

As Dave says himself, 'It don't matter if you win or lose, as longs you looked good doing it.'

And I'm hanging on my broadband to get all the rothisms, and any diamond moments from his time on the station. I'm sure Dave's first time gigging wasn't that good, well, it was probably great. But I can see Dave doing a great job.

[fuckhowardstern]

Originally posted by bigc
all these press experts putting down DLR, well, I got a lil story to relate to this, from across the pond and our shores(the UK).
I dunno how big it was in the US, but Fawlty Towers is often viewed as one of, if not,the best comedy series ever. When its first series came out, it was panned by a succession of critics, and the show only really took off during its first repeat run.
the rest they say is history.
just a lil example to put 2 fingers up at the critics

Excellent analogy! Same with the American show "Cheers". It was panned after the first season. Nobody liked it but the cast and crew. It went on to win how many emmies over how many years?

[freak]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Van HALEN themselves, received poor critical reviews in the late 70's. They are now almost universally praised by said music critics....

99.99 percent of critics out there are failures at what they critique or show only the opinions the "powers that be" want them to have.

They have absolutely no worth.

They panned Van Halen because they were contrary to what was popular at the time (Critics dislike anything new that involves testosterone-induced attitude. Note that buggering sheep-herders are acceptable) and Roth's being a Jew didn't help (Why? Who the fuck knows.)

Want to know who's going to succeed out there? Look for the bad reviews.

[Mr. Vengeance]

Guys...take it easy. I see a lot of pretty slanted views here. We all want Dave to do well. I have already proclaimed my allegiance to Howard, so I'll be listening to him, and it's academic because I can't get Dave anyway. BUT, I can say this- I've yet to read a single positive review about Dave's debut. That worries me. I've checked out the downloads and Dave does need to improve a bit. He's new at this, and he'll need some time, but this business of attacking every review that doesn't praise Dave is getting fucking tired.....

Just don't worry about it and enjoy the show.

[J-Axe]

Not attacking, supporting.

[zero discipline]

Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
Guys...take it easy. I see a lot of pretty slanted views here. We all want Dave to do well. I have already proclaimed my allegiance to Howard, so I'll be listening to him, and it's academic because I can't get Dave anyway. BUT, I can say this- I've yet to read a single positive review about Dave's debut. That worries me. I've checked out the downloads and Dave does need to improve a bit. He's new at this, and he'll need some time, but this business of attacking every review that doesn't praise Dave is getting fucking tired.....

Just don't worry about it and enjoy the show.

That's fairly humorous that you say you see alot of slanted views here, hello, you realize you're at the Roth Army website right?

[Mr. Vengeance]

Originally posted by zero discipline
That's fairly humorous that you say you see alot of slanted views here, hello, you realize you're at the Roth Army website right?

It doesn't mean you have to be a mindless drone. We support Dave, but let's face it, this may be a failure. Just listen and see what happens. He may improve and be very sucessful in radio. He may fail and go back to making music full time. Either way the fans win.

[Warham]

Dave's never going to go back to making music 'full-time', unless you mean playing the local casinos three nights a week.

The days of putting out an album every year and a monster tour that hits every major US city are over.

There won't be any Van Halen reunion.

[zero discipline]

Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
It doesn't mean you have to be a mindless drone. We support Dave, but let's face it, this may be a failure. Just listen and see what happens. He may improve and be very sucessful in radio. He may fail and go back to making music full time. Either way the fans win.

I'm not quite sure how me finding humor in your comment makes me a mindless drone. It would be alot like someone being on a Hagar site, making the comment "there sure is a lot of Dave bashing going on here". It just struck me as humorous that's all. I guess I could have been a real bitch and have no respect for what you say and call you names first. But I respect your opinion too much to do that.

[fuckhowardstern]

Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
It doesn't mean you have to be a mindless drone. We support Dave, but let's face it, this may be a failure. Just listen and see what happens. He may improve and be very sucessful in radio. He may fail and go back to making music full time. Either way the fans win.

Nobody is being a mindless drone for liking the radio show if thats how they feel about it. And if they like it, why should they not share their opinion on this site and especially on others where the show is getting unfairly slammed by people who only hate the station for how it treated their hero howard stern. It seems to me you should listen to the show itself instead of relying on what the reviews say before you go criticizing people on this site for expressing their heart felt opinions.

[Mr. Vengeance]

Originally posted by fuckhowardstern
Nobody is being a mindless drone for liking the radio show if thats how they feel about it. And if they like it, why should they not share their opinion on this site and especially on others where the show is getting unfairly slammed by people who only hate the station for how it treated their hero howard stern. It seems to me you should listen to the show itself instead of relying on what the reviews say before you go criticizing people on this site for expressing their heart felt opinions.

See, you're not even bothering to read what I wrote...You're taking it completely the wrong way. I'm telling you guys who attack every criticism of Dave's debut, to chill out. I've HEARD him on the downloads and frankly a lot of the criticism he's getting is warranted.

Based on your name, I wouldn't expect you to do anything but trash other opinions.

Dave may do very well eventually, but right now, people trashing every negative review mindlessly is getting fucking old, really fucking fast. It's bordering on Spammy -fan stupidity! Enjoy the show, and quit getting all bent out of shape when a reviewer doesn't like the show. Dave is Dave and will always be our #1 guy in rock. Radio may take a while.

[fuckhowardstern]

Fair enough - I didn't see where you posted that you had heard the downloads. And by the way, I think Howard is brilliant at what he does and I have laughed my ass off at his show many, many times (particularly when Hank the Angry Dwarf was around!!). The name was chosen when I joined the site to download some bootlegs and didn't realize I would be sticking around to post on the boards. It was right about the time they announced Roth to be Howards replacement and I was excited. Of course the boots weren't working and the rest is brief history.

I have tried and I think succeeded at not getting all bent out of shape over the bad reviews and the responses I have posted on these blogs have not been emotional or impassioned sheep-like rants - even where the critiques were obviously using such a tone. I for one, and most of the posters from this thread, merely expressed their support. And there is nothing wrong with that. Of course the show is not perfect and there is room for improvement. Nobody including surely Dave himself can get upset with constructive criticism. But check out the blog yourself if you haven't been there yet. They were ripping Dave a new asshole because they were just pissed at CBS and at censorship and at having to order siris to listen to Stern now. CBS could have put Edward F. Murrow on the radio to take Stern's place and they would be bitching and complaining about how much he sucks. So I think it is entirely appropriate to post in support of what we like so long as we are rational.

[fuckhowardstern]

Pardon me - I can't keep up with all the posts I have made this weekend! Pretty exciting weekend for me at the Army! Anyway....when I was saying "check out the blogs" and referring to the "posters in this thread" I thought I was in this thread if you care to check it out. It has links to the certain Blogs to which I refer.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showt...0&pagenumber=1

In case the link doesn't work its the Thread in the main by Bantoneli about reviews on BlogMaster or something like that.

[NATEDOG001976]

"Lose the dress, Keep the shoes"

I think the "Outsiders" will lighten up and open up to Dave more. It only get's better from here!

[Dirty Duck]

I really havent been responding to these threads about Roth's radio show cause I dont think he's been on the air long enough. I have a lot to say cause I feel I've been out of the loop,so please bare with me. To start off I'm beyond excited knowing that Dave has his own show and that he's finally back in the publics eye. I'm the first to say that I always thought Dave would be perfect for radio. I grew up with his music and now I get to grow old with him mornings on 92.3 free FM. I hope that his show does get better and better...the guy deserves it. David Lee roth is not one to keep quiet and I feel this is the perfect opertunity to get his voice out there. I just honestly dont know what I think of the show. Yeah it's great hearing his voice in the morning when I get up....who would've thunk? But since I only get to listen to about 1/2 hour of the show I feel I cant really put my 2 cents in...it just wouldnt be right. I mean...he sounds great....but I just dont know. Thank you army for posting the threads about each day that Dave is on..this way I can catch up with what I missed. I will tell you this...I listened today for awhile and I thought the show was great! All I can say Army is I hope the best for the "King of All Frontmen" and I hope we'll be discussing this show by the summer of 2006. Thanks for letting me get this all of my chest! Rock on guys....