The NBA Playoffs 2006

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  • Unchainme
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Apr 2005
    • 7746



    Nash's Stats

    PPG 18.8
    RPG 4.20
    APG 10.5
    EFF + 24.15

    King Jame's

    2005-06
    Statistics
    PPG 31.4
    RPG 7.00
    APG 6.6
    EFF + 29.41

    Kobe's

    2005-06
    Statistics
    PPG 35.4
    RPG 5.30
    APG 4.5
    EFF + 27.82

    I Always thought that they gave the MVP to the Best player in the league? Acoording to the Stats Nash doesn't look like it.
    Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team

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    • Romeo Delight
      ROCKSTAR

      • Feb 2005
      • 5139

      Originally posted by Unchainme
      http://www.nba.com/playerfile/steve_nash/index.html






      I Always thought that they gave the MVP to the Best player in the league? Acoording to the Stats Nash doesn't look like it.


      Um, you forgot to include the only stat that matters


      WINNING!!!!

      JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
      sigpicRoth Army Canada

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      • Brett
        Full Member Status

        • Jan 2004
        • 3538

        So you're saying the Lakers and Cavs didn't do enough winning? You're saying that two teams that didn't make the playoffs last year, both improving by 11+ games isn't winning?

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        • Unchainme
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Apr 2005
          • 7746

          Originally posted by DavidFlamma
          Um, you forgot to include the only stat that matters


          WINNING!!!!

          JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
          Winning is good, But its for the Best PLAYER in the league, Hell if Winning mattered that much in the MVP race, Wouldn't The Detroit Pistons have had like all 5 staters in the top 5?
          Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team

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          • Romeo Delight
            ROCKSTAR

            • Feb 2005
            • 5139

            Originally posted by Brett
            Yeah Steve Nash made him a good shooter by passing him the ball. Brilliant analysis.

            That's exactly right.

            Have you noticed the work Nash puts in to make the shooter have the look he needs?

            C'mon Brett...you know basket ball.

            If the ball isn't delivered exactly right where the shooter wants it at EXACTLY the right time, it is not going in. Not a three.
            sigpicRoth Army Canada

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            • Brett
              Full Member Status

              • Jan 2004
              • 3538

              Yeah how about Tayshaun Prince? He scores 15 a game, actually plays defense, and his team won 64 games. Why isn't he MVP?

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              • Brett
                Full Member Status

                • Jan 2004
                • 3538

                Originally posted by DavidFlamma
                That's exactly right.

                Have you noticed the work Nash puts in to make the shooter have the look he needs?

                C'mon Brett...you know basket ball.

                If the ball isn't delivered exactly right where the shooter wants it at EXACTLY the right time, it is not going in. Not a three.
                He drives to the basket and kicks to the 3-point line, where 4 guys are lined up. How fucking difficult is that? All guys in this league do that, they just don't all have shooters that knock the shots down, or have coaches that allow that type of strategy.

                Yes I see how Nash gets to the basket. Spinniing, jumping in the air, just heaving the ball back out to the 3-point line when he's double-teamed. I've never seen a player get bailed out more on bad half-court plays than Nash. Steve Francis is a close second.

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                • Unchainme
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 7746

                  I could respect Prince getting it over Lebron and Kobe, Mainly because right now him and the Pistons are Extremely good, The Suns are nowhere near as good in my opinion and Nash puts up very average numbers, Just kinda feel cheated.
                  Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team

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                  • Romeo Delight
                    ROCKSTAR

                    • Feb 2005
                    • 5139

                    Originally posted by Unchainme
                    Winning is good, But its for the Best PLAYER in the league, Hell if Winning mattered that much in the MVP race, Wouldn't The Detroit Pistons have had like all 5 staters in the top 5?

                    He led the league in assists...no small feat.

                    So, 11 assists = 22 points

                    plus 18 points scored...you get the picture.

                    They are about even if you look at it like that.

                    It was a hard decision. Lebron was the MVP late in the season. Kobe had the 8th highest point total on a shitty team.

                    Nash still had his ALL-STAR center missing, and got the second seed and career highs for himself and others.

                    Nash wins
                    sigpicRoth Army Canada

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                    • Brett
                      Full Member Status

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 3538

                      I wonder how Kareem won the MVP award in 1976 when the Lakers were 40-42 and didn't even make the playoffs. Boy that winning thing sure hurt him didn't it?

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                      • Brett
                        Full Member Status

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 3538

                        Your rationale is pointless Flamma. Magic averaged 20 and 12 (throw in 7.5 boards too) for his entire career, and the Lakers certainly did a lot of winning wouldn't you say? He didn't win the MVP every year.

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                        • Romeo Delight
                          ROCKSTAR

                          • Feb 2005
                          • 5139

                          Originally posted by Brett
                          I wonder how Kareem won the MVP award in 1976 when the Lakers were 40-42 and didn't even make the playoffs. Boy that winning thing sure hurt him didn't it?
                          What are the chances you would mention that (again)


                          The criteria has changed, thankfully for the award.

                          Each year is a different animal. I can't say it would be impossible today for someone on a team with a losing record to get MVP, but it would take something ridiculous.

                          Winning is everything, just ask Jordan.
                          sigpicRoth Army Canada

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                          • Romeo Delight
                            ROCKSTAR

                            • Feb 2005
                            • 5139

                            Originally posted by Brett
                            Your rationale is pointless Flamma. Magic averaged 20 and 12 (throw in 7.5 boards too) for his entire career, and the Lakers certainly did a lot of winning wouldn't you say? He didn't win the MVP every year.
                            See my previous post.
                            sigpicRoth Army Canada

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                            • Unchainme
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 7746

                              Originally posted by DavidFlamma
                              Winning is everything, just ask Jordan.
                              Yes but he had respectable all-around stats and was a team leader in my eyes, I still think if you take Nash away from the Suns They're a playoff contender.
                              Still waiting for a relevant Browns Team

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                              • Brett
                                Full Member Status

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 3538

                                Originally posted by DavidFlamma
                                What are the chances you would mention that (again)


                                The criteria has changed, thankfully for the award.
                                Well that's problem, we have people like you who think the NBA is better now than it was 20 years ago. Sad. There is nothing about the game that is better now.

                                You just hate the fact that I mention facts that easily refute your dumb arguments. If he had played for the fucking Suns or something, I still would have said it.

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