Introducing The Amazing Penta-lawn 2000!!!

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by FORD
Indeed I do. And the ones who spend mosst of their tyme typping oute illiturate bulshitt r usuyally the trollz. 90% of Thome's output fits that category.

I never called YOU a troll, did I?

No, you didn't and I wasn't insinuating that you did call me one.

Maybe thome just has a unique writing style? Oh, wait....(thinks of Phil's posts)...nevermind.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Roy Munson
FORD, btw, when I was talking about high temperatures and sheet metal and steel I was referring to the PLANE, not the building. I was merely trying to point out why there seems to be a lack of plane wreckage to the naked eye.

OK, but that still doesn't explain the total disappearance of the wings, which probably would have been sheared off when the plane hit the building, and then should have been on the lawn in front of the Pentagon.

And it definitely doesn't explain why the engine parts found inside the building were NOT at all from a Boeing 757, but from a much smaller Air Force plane manufactured by the Raytheon corporation (whose employees coincidentally made up a good portion of the alleged Flight 77 passenger list)

[diamondD]

Originally posted by FORD
It certainly wouldn't change the engine parts supposedly found inside the Pentagon into that of an entirely different type of plane.

And it didn't. Every part of that plane, engine, rims, etc, that was found in the wreckage was consistant with the parts of the Boeing. Did you even check on the link? I doubt it, you're too scared of your little fantasy world crumbling on you.


Why do think you can just make shit up and it be true? You're getting worse than Keeyth as far as that crap.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by FORD
OK, but that still doesn't explain the total disappearance of the wings, which probably would have been sheared off when the plane hit the building, and then should have been on the lawn in front of the Pentagon.

I can't even believe I'm responding to this question, but wouldn't the wings have been full of fuel? Even if the wings should have "sheared off" as you suggest (which I disagree with), they would almost certainly ignite and burn up.

[diamondD]

Originally posted by FORD
OK, but that still doesn't explain the total disappearance of the wings, which probably would have been sheared off when the plane hit the building, and then should have been on the lawn in front of the Pentagon.

And it definitely doesn't explain why the engine parts found inside the building were NOT at all from a Boeing 757, but from a much smaller Air Force plane manufactured by the Raytheon corporation (whose employees coincidentally made up a good portion of the alleged Flight 77 passenger list)

BULLSHIT Prove it.

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I can't even believe I'm responding to this question, but wouldn't the wings have been full of fuel? Even if the wings should have "sheared off" as you suggest (which I disagree with), they would almost certainly ignite and burn up.

BINGO...

We have a winner.

[diamondD]

What is seen in this photo is most likely the APU (Aux Power Unit) used in a 757 that is equipped with Rolls-Royce RB211 engines. The APU (Honeywell GTCP331-200) is located in the tail section of the aircraft (that's what the large vent that looks like a 3rd jet engine is) as edvidenced on this technical rescue reference aid from Boeing. Boeing 757 reference website. These small turbine engines are quite common on modern turbine & turbofan passenger aircraft, and are used to furnish ground auxillary power while the main engines are shut down during ground operations. An online training aid lets you Play around with the controls on a 757/767 instrument pannel.

There have been some people who claim that a Global Hawk was what hit the Pentagon. Here is what John W. Brown, spokesman for Rolls Royce (Indianapolis), had to say about the part in the photo above �It is not a part from any Rolls Royce engine that I�m familiar with, and certainly not the AE 3007H made here in Indy.� (Of course it wouldn't be anything he's familiar with, it's a powerplant made by Honeywell.) The AE 3007 engines are used in small commuter jets such as the Cessna Citation; the AE 3007H is also used in the military�s unmanned aircraft, the Global Hawk. The Global Hawk is manufactured by Northrop Grumman�s subsidiary Ryan Aeronautical, which it acquired from Teledyne, Inc. in July 1999. A detailed view of what the turbofan that powers the Global Hawk looks like - I'm sure you can see it's too small to be anything in the pictures contained here or anywhere else in the Pentagon crash evidence. Also visible in this photo, one of the 757's blue passenger seats to the left of the turbine, and possibly a 2nd seat above the other seat.

[Roy Munson]

I guess that's what I was trying to point out before. Fuel tanks reside in the wings of aircraft such as this. Wings are made out of SHEET METAL. Put the two together in an explosion and you have...

Not much left.

[diamondD]

Kind of like FORD's explanations.

[Guitar Shark]

There was never anything there to begin with.

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by FORD
OK, but that still doesn't explain the total disappearance of the wings, which probably would have been sheared off when the plane hit the building, and then should have been on the lawn in front of the Pentagon.

And it definitely doesn't explain why the engine parts found inside the building were NOT at all from a Boeing 757, but from a much smaller Air Force plane manufactured by the Raytheon corporation (whose employees coincidentally made up a good portion of the alleged Flight 77 passenger list)

Rense


Please click on it and READ it...and look at all the nice little pictures.

It was a 757 that crashed into the Pentagon. Please don't insult yourself by believing otherwise.

[thome]

If i took a plane and folded it up in a concrete room and filled the
room up w/ how many thousands of Gal of jet fuel, how much of
you or the plane would be left to inventory.

Makes like a little blast furnace, aluminum melts and disperses into the air like paper ash.It becomes a gas nothing left but a few teeth
and the larger chunks of steel.

I say the probability of this being real or some conspiracy far
out way the hassle it would have taken to fake it..Yes/No.?

Besides, all you -Libs- just keep spouting how the BCE is a Dumbass
Convention then you give Bush the Credit for Creating and Instigating the most technically difficult conspirasy in World History.Yes/No?

So Hows' about it!

[FORD]

Originally posted by diamondD
And it didn't. Every part of that plane, engine, rims, etc, that was found in the wreckage was consistant with the parts of the Boeing. Did you even check on the link? I doubt it, you're too scared of your little fantasy world crumbling on you.


Why do think you can just make shit up and it be true? You're getting worse than Keeyth as far as that crap.

The engine found in the Pentagon (and yes, it was ONE engine) was that of a Raytheon A-3 drone, NOT the Rolls Royce manufactured engine used in a Boeing 757.

Google it yourself if you don't believe me.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by FORD
The engine found in the Pentagon (and yes, it was ONE engine) was that of a Raytheon A-3 drone, NOT the Rolls Royce manufactured engine used in a Boeing 757.

Google it yourself if you don't believe me.

This is true. And a piece of debris show a camouflaged drone missle made t2o look like an AA which shows somebody knew ahead of time that AA would be used by the 'terrorists' and took the time t2o make their missle look like an AA plane.

This rabbit hole is not deep, but there are a lot of tunnels t2o track and follow.

WAKE UP!

[diamondD]

Originally posted by FORD
The engine found in the Pentagon (and yes, it was ONE engine) was that of a Raytheon A-3 drone, NOT the Rolls Royce manufactured engine used in a Boeing 757.

Google it yourself if you don't believe me.

No it wasn't and I'm calling bullshit on your claim. There are at least 2 different engines used in Boeing 757s. Look at their website.


American Airlines

The rims match a 757 and the ENGINES matched that of the 757 that crashed.

Any more bullshit you'd like to try to slip by?

Nice try Keeyth.

[diamondD]

Here's my source.

Busting FORD's myths.

I know you won't go read it because you are too scared of your little bubble bursting.

[DLR'sCock]

Speaking of firefigthers, well I know firefighters, and well I have been told by firefigthers that the ones who were at the Pentagon and the WTC are on gag order not to reveal what they saw or they will lose their jobs.


I don't know how true this is, but these words came from a firefighter, and it's understood that a missle hit the Pentagon.

Not my words, his....this one bit of info came from a guy who was just about to head down NO after Katrina hit as well. I am not saying this is true, but I found it interesting.

[DLR'sCock]

If you look at the picture in my sig you see the wall that was hit before it collapsed.


You can see a hole behind the plume of smoke, but it doesn't look that big. It's very clear, and you can see the hole curves inwards on it's right side about 30 feet up, or abotu 3/8ths of the buildings height from the ground.

The hole from the left side of the picture is about 1/3 of the way in where you see the fire.




I report, you decide. So what do you see?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by DLR'sCock
Speaking of firefigthers, well I know firefighters, and well I have been told by firefigthers that the ones who were at the Pentagon and the WTC are on gag order not to reveal what they saw or they will lose their jobs.


I don't know how true this is, but these words came from a firefighter, and it's understood that a missle hit the Pentagon.

Not my words, his....this one bit of info came from a guy who was just about to head down NO after Katrina hit as well. I am not saying this is true, but I found it interesting.

Oh c'mon dude. A "gag order" is going to stop people from talking in the age of the internet...

[DLR'sCock]

all i am saying it is what he said.....that's all i am saying....


i don't know what the truth is, but i am open to anything, because the reality of the world is that anything is possible, at this point though, i really don't care which way it is.....

[thome]

Dude's ,now your gonna tell me the BCE is to cheap to afford to
buy the correct sized airplane in order to create enough visual
appeal to fake out the lookie loos, Gimme a BREAK.

Doubt this, Prozac it's not just for breakfast anymore..!

Find help don't believe the people who want to fake you out of the
truth.
The Lay-Out...
Plane gets hijacked we have the written plans and the scrap on the
ground, plane flies into pentagon, by the exact same hijackers.
Place goes boom, not much left .Good job for terrorists . Bad for
America .

There, now your head won't hurt anymore get some sleepies big day tomorrow sunday school yard work yes mommie loves you too.
Ok, one glass of water the off to beddie bye.JERKS!

[thome]

thome closed the deal..............!

*crickets chirping*, tweeep, tweeep, tweeep,that's the sound of Victory!

[jhale667]

Not just yet, Thome.



You ALL should watch this....if you haven't already.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...59923762628848

[Roy Munson]

Originally posted by jhale667
Not just yet, Thome.



You ALL should watch this....if you haven't already.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...59923762628848

Anybody who believes this shit has...

TOO MUCH

*clap-clap*

TIME ON THEIR HANDS!!

[Nickdfresh]

I'm not looking at it...

[jhale667]

It makes some interesting points...I'm personally interested in all the theories, just because the 'official' one seems suspect...

and oh, whoever said "an airplane doesn't leave a cartoon outline of itself when it flys into a building...watch news footage of the plane hitting the 2nd tower (the shot taken at ground level)...for a split second before the fireball erupts, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT DID...fucking surreal....

And Roy, HOW DARE YOU accuse me of being a Styx fan...them's fightin' words...

[DLR'sCock]

I must say that the interviews with the New York's Bravest the FDNY firefighters are interesting....

you all should watch this....

[FORD]

Watch the film with an open mind. It's your duty as an American to want the truth about the bastards who did this to our country to be revealed.

[Seshmeister]

Some interesting stuff I never knew before.

It's showing inconsistencies rather than proof.

Doesn't go anywhere with where the 'missing' passengers went.

[diamondD]

I watched a few minutes of it last night. They definitely play around with the truth to make things appear to their slant. I'll check out more of it later. If it turns out to be as blatantly false as 9/11:In Plane Sight, I'm not gonna waste my time tho.


I love how you nuts like to go on and on about the FOX reporter saying he didn't see any windows on the plane, FROM BROOKLYN. I was out at the Statue of Liberty last Sept, and it would have been difficult, especially in the morning sun, to make anything out for certain from that distance, much less Brooklyn.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Some interesting stuff I never knew before.

It's showing inconsistencies rather than proof.

Doesn't go anywhere with where the 'missing' passengers went.

Tit's been done bef4ore; missing passengerks - Flight KAL 007.

[thome]

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
Tit's been done bef4ore; missing passengerks - Flight KAL 007.

No he's............... there........... the man............................................. on the wing he's out there.

I saw that episode wasn't Shatner in it... Twilight Zone Ruled.

Ps. there is inconsistencies in a pie and pie is easy to make
inconsistencies are everywhere that doesn't make a conspiracy
you crazy cats!!!!!!!!

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by thome
No he's............... there........... the man............................................. on the wing he's out there.

I saw that episode wasn't Shatner in it... Twilight Zone Ruled.

Ps. there is inconsistencies in a pie and pie is easy to make
inconsistencies are everywhere that doesn't make a conspiracy
you crazy cats!!!!!!!!

I'm not trying t2o change yer mmind so don't freak OUT!





YOU'RE ALREADY DEAD
AS FAR AS I'M CUNTCERNED
Saving You Is Not MMy Job

[FORD]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Some interesting stuff I never knew before.

It's showing inconsistencies rather than proof.

Doesn't go anywhere with where the 'missing' passengers went.

You may remember that they showed where two of the supposed flights weren't even scheduled to fly on 9-11-01 at all.

So if there never WAS such a flight in the air on that day, then that would mean the passenger manifests were totally fabricated.

They made a reference to Operation Northwoods and the provision that passenger lists, and even funerals would be faked in order to generate "casualties". And if they thought they could get away with that blatant kind of lie back in 1961, it would be even easier with today's whore media. And the help of technology in some cases.

[thome]

Ok lets play fun time.......... do you consider war an natural part
of existence, look back in time and ask yourself is it not
the single most wide spread commonality that joins all races
all styles of govmt all styles of you may think were diff
but we are all the same, war is life.

It's as natural as a bowl of corn flakes and next time you have the
liquid lawn spayed to kill the bugs and termites around your house
remember you are a murderer of the termites and the water table it all flows into so FUK OFF YOU condescending LIAR!!!!!!!!!!

Your sixties mentality was wrong then and you are wrong now.

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by FORD
You may remember that they showed where two of the supposed flights weren't even scheduled to fly on 9-11-01 at all.

So if there never WAS such a flight in the air on that day, then that would mean the passenger manifests were totally fabricated.

They made a reference to Operation Northwoods and the provision that passenger lists, and even funerals would be faked in order to generate "casualties". And if they thought they could get away with that blatant kind of lie back in 1961, it would be even easier with today's whore media. And the help of technology in some cases.

So all we need to do to disprove all of this is find someone who definitely lost someone on one of the planes?

Or did they march the passengers out of Cleveland and shoot them?

[Seshmeister]

Let's concentrate on AA 77 since it is the most cuntraversial.

From CNN

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77
American Airlines Flight 77, from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon with 64 people aboard.




CREW

Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He is survived by a wife, a daughter and a grandson. He had more than 20 years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.

David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight. "He was handsome and happy and very centered," his neighbor Travis White, told The Washington Post. "His life was the kind of life I wanted to have some day."

Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant for 30 years. She left behind a husband, a pilot, and a daughter and son.

Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.

Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.

Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.





PASSENGERS

Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the surgeon general to address racial and ethnic disparities in health. A 1995 graduate of Marshall University School of Medicine, Ambrose last year was named the Luther Terry Fellow of the Association of Teachers of Preventative Medicine.

Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.

M.J. Booth

Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.

William Caswell

Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington. Asia was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

James Debeuneure, 58, of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington. He was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Eddie Dillard

Charles Droz

Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.

Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp., a software engineering firm. He worked on data systems for NASA and also developed data systems for the study of global and regional environmental issues. Falkenburg was traveling with his wife, Leslie Whittingham, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3.

Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.

Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.

Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington. He was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. A Mississippi native, he joined the society in 1987. "Joe Feguson's final hours at the Geographic reveal the depth of his commitment to one of the things he really loved," said John Fahey Jr., the society's president. "Joe was here at the office until late Monday evening preparing for this trip. It was his goal to make this trip perfect in every way."

Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.

Dee Flagg

Richard Gabriel

Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.

Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.

Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.

Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc., a wireless data and messaging company.

Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society. She was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. Society President John Fahey Jr. said one of his fondest memories of Judge is a voice mail she and a colleague once left him while they were rafting the Monkey River in Belize. "This was quintessential Ann -- living life to the fullest and wanting to share it with others," he said.

Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion engineer from El Segundo, California.

Yvonne Kennedy

Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.

Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding. She joined the firm in 1993 and was part of the its telecommunications practice. She was married to Peter Batacan.

Norma Langsteuerle

Dong Lee

Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, was the associate director of clinical research for a biotech firm.

Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits, a consultation and referral service. He was married and had two children. Newton was on his way back to Orange County to retrieve his family's yellow Labrador, who had been left behind until they could settle into their new home in Arlington, Virginia.

Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN and was married to U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She twice called her husband as the plane was being hijacked and described some details, including that the attackers were armed with knives. She had planned to take a different flight, but she changed it at the last minute so that she could be with her husband on his birthday. She worked as an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee in the mid-1990s and later worked on the staff of Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles.

Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.

Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.

Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from Great Falls, Virginia, and was married to Stephen Push. She worked with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on developing a new policy governing cellular therapies, announced in 1997. She also worked on other major health-care legislation.

Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.

John Sammartino

Diane Simmons

George Simmons

Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California at Santa Barbara. She had just gotten the post August 31 and was making the trip to California to start work.

Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.

Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.

Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland. The professor of public policy at Georgetown University in Washington was traveling with her husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling to Los Angeles to catch a connection to Australia. Whittington had been named a visiting fellow at Australian National University in Canberra.

John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.

Vicki Yancey

Shuyin Yang

Yuguag Zheng

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by thome
Ok lets play fun time.......... do you consider war an natural part
of existence, look back in time and ask yourself is it not
the single most wide spread commonality that joins all races
all styles of govmt all styles of you may think were diff
but we are all the same, war is life.

It's as natural as a bowl of corn flakes and next time you have the
liquid lawn spayed to kill the bugs and termites around your house
remember you are a murderer of the termites and the water table it all flows into so FUK OFF YOU condescending LIAR!!!!!!!!!!

Your sixties mentality was wrong then and you are wrong now.

I cun't help butt think dat a mman who spews f4orth da virtues aff war, and ya cun't stop wars, and wars are all da 'same', doon't deserve t2o git his head blow fakkig OFF!

"sIXtieS meNatLity?" Dude, yer bio says yer 40 fakking 5 (45). Yoo didn't serve in ANY war thanks t2o dat "sixties mentality".

FORD, you better ban this guy 'thome' f4or trolling and/or "stupidity" or I may never post here again...tit's not worth it (posting) with dis kinda garbage.

Dude, why don't you go t2o sum pumped up, brianwashed GI Website where the geeks on those boards will welcome your simple explanations f4or their deaths, wounds, service, bad pay (but they got those college benefits, babyee), and crumbling country at home.

It's o1ne thing t2o have free speech and another point of view, but yoo're just STUPID!

"Let's play fun time..." Yeh, let's play da fun time when American 'insurgents' meet yoo in da street and blow yer fakking head aff wit da new civil "war". Hey, aff yer 45 and yoo never served in Vietnam or any 'war' dis can be YER 'war', baybee.

Tit's good f4or yoo t2o remind mme daily yer out there so I keep mmy carbine polished and ready.

[Seshmeister]

Let's pick one at random...and see where Google takes us



Suzanne Calley

42 year old Cisco employee.

Her online guestbook with about 50 entries

http://www.legacy.com/Guestbook.asp?PersonID=91743


http://livingtributes.com/livingtribute.php?memid=693

Suzanne Calley, age 42, lived with her husband, Frank Jensen, in the rural community of San Martin, just south of San Jose. She loved the outdoors, skiing near Lake Tahoe in the winter and scuba diving whenever she could--Monterey, Hawaii, Belize. The couple were diving in the Caribbean not long before she went to Washington.
A California native and Cal State Chico graduate, she worked for the San Jose computer networking giant Cisco Systems in strategic marketing.

"Suzanne's energy and enthusiasm were contagious," Cisco said in a statement. "She was highly respected by her friends and colleagues and her presence will be greatly missed by all."

"She was vivacious, full of fun, ready to go and organized, happy," said her next-door neighbor, Diana Christie.

She also leaves behind her father, mother and brother. "I loved her more than life itself," her husband said in a statement. Their 20th wedding anniversary was Wednesday

From a conspiracy site...

http://www.rense.com/general68/ree.htm

Flight 77 passenger, Suzanne Calley's, wedding ring and driver's license turns up in perfect condition from Pentagon wreckage. ATM card of Flight 11 passenger, Waleed Iskandar, also turns up unscathed, but he wasn't even listed as a passenger on the AA official flight list.


Capt. Jim Ingledue of the Virginia Beach Fire Department and 9/11 first responder recently reported he found the completely unblemished California ID card of a Flight 77 passenger amidst the devastation and rubble at the Pentagon.

Critics were quick to jump on what they called "another miraculous find," claiming it was just another indication of bogus evidence planted by FBI, including the unscathed passport found outside the WTC of one of the hijackers, Satum AL Suqami, the luggage of Muhammad Atta with blatant incriminating evidence and the perfectly intact Wells Fargo ATM card of Walled Iskandar, one of the Flight 11 passengers.
Frank Calley of San Martin, California, this week told another family member who lost a loved one on 9/11 that all three items were returned in perfectly good condition, a recovery even Capt. Ingledue said was "strange and unbelievable" considering the meltdown at the Pentagon.

Calley, however, didn't question the authenticity or believability of the items found, but added when questioned whether his wife's body was positively identified in the rubble:

"They told me they found her remains, but I decided not to look. The Pentagon officials also said the remains of at least 19 others on board the plane were also identified by a military medical group.

"Immediately after the crash, I was assigned a personal liaison who handled my case. He was cooperative and helpful and I decided I didn't want to see Suzanne's remains."

What's strange about the autopsy investigation is that none of the family members, including Calley, have demanded an independent investigation, relying solely on government medical reporting as advised by the Pentagon liaisons, a personal military attaché conveniently provided for each individual family.

Cisco dedicate their annual report to her and she was an executive.

She obviously existed and then disappeared after 9-11 with her wedding ring recovered.

So if a cruise missile hit the Pentagon what happened to Suzanne?

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
So all we need to do to disprove all of this is find someone who definitely lost someone on one of the planes?

Or did they march the passengers out of Cleveland and shoot them?

They're dead. Butt not in dat EMPTY hole in PENNSYLVANIA!