The Lord works in mysterious ways...But the platform does not define marriage that way, and his remarks prompted the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force to return a $5,000 donation from the Democratic National Committee.
"Marriage is between a man and a woman" - Howard Dean
“If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
Be careful when you define the definition of "moron"...
"... I was worried that activist judges are actually defining the definition of marriage. And the surest way to protect marriage between a man and woman is to amend the Constitution."
George W. Bush--Third Presidential Debate, Tempe, AZ, October 13, 2004
Which is absolutely consistent with the position he had as governor of Vermont when he signed the civil unions law.Originally posted by BigBadBrian
"Marriage is between a man and a woman" - Howard Dean
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"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
I thought you didn't agree with that position tho?
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My position has always been that committed gay couples are entitled under the 14th ammendment to all the same legal rights as a married heterosexual couple. Calling it a "civil union" makes sense, because then the question of "marriage" as a religious ceremony is taken completely off the table.Originally posted by diamondD
I thought you didn't agree with that position tho?
The supreme court in Vermont came to the same conclusion that the Massachussettes court did. Dean signed the civil unions bill as a common sense solution to settle the debate.
I hope you're not reducing marriage to a "religious ceremony"...
Depends on who you ask......Originally posted by ELVIS
I hope you're not reducing marriage to a "religious ceremony"...
What does the word "marriage" mean?
Is it a piece of paper, a religious ceremony, or a lifetime committment between two people who love each other.
The piece of paper is legal. So there's no basis other than blatant discrimination to exclude gay couples from that.
Nor can anybody make a rational argument against a gay couple being in a committed relationship, sharing financial resources, property, insurance policies, etc.
Some religious denominations may have objections to performing gay ceremonies. And they should have that right to object, but they should NOT have the right to force that belief into the laws that apply to everyone.
So again, the best thing to do is establish the legal equality, and leave the ceremonial details to for the religious denominations to argue amongst themselves. In the end, some will do the ceremonies and others won't. Chances are the ones that won't don't have a lot of gay members in their congregations anyway.
Howard Dean's a crook just like every other politician.
He's probably got quite a few skeletons in his closet...probably a few from his pre-med days.
He did not inhale!!!Originally posted by Warham
Howard Dean's a crook just like every other politician.
He's probably got quite a few skeletons in his closet...probably a few from his pre-med days.
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