Fucking Shouter Bands......Instantly Sound Like 10,000 other faceless bands...

[binnie]

Hardrock 69, that footstep analogy was really good!

I suppose that heavy is when the music STOMPS you,

Like "Sweet Leaf" by Sabbath, you just feel your ears been pummelled.

Too fast and it just sounds like mush.....

[thome]

there is some feeling that after...for me

The Dead Kennedys
The Circle Jerks
Black Flag

and many other bands....... some kind of offshoot started and it was these shouter bands as you say 90% of wich Suk!

They were lame and missed the mark set by the Punk and Slam bands that are excellent and really deserve more credit.

[Terry]

Re: Fucking Shouter Bands......Instantly Sound Like 10,000 other faceless bands...

Originally posted by Hardrock69
Dressed in black shorts.....goatees.....maybe a buncha piercings....lotsa tattoos...at least one other member of the band has their hair in braids or dreads.....

Singer up front pretending to be so angry....sounding as if he was taking a crap after eating some green chile burritos and drinking Everclear all night....and being told they have to go to Church.....by the grandma they are mooching off of while trying to become famous....

Oh PUH-LEEEZE!


Watched some of Headbangers Ball this evening.....

Here is the trick....if you want to stand out from all the other Heavy Bands...SING!!!!

Stop that shouting crap!!
Everyone who shouts sounds the fucking same...as if they are fucking shouting!!!!

Commercial for the Autumn Offering's new album was just on....the dude was just shouting in key......

The only way you can truly sound original is to fucking SING!

If you are so bad a singer, (or lame) then don't become a shouter....you only sound fucking stupid, but you guarantee when you are 50 you will be able to do little more than croak...and you will sound FUCKING IDENTICAL TO EVERY OTHER FUCKING BAND WITH SOME KINDA GUY (or girl..I must allow equal rights for all except Joe Thudner) WHO STANDS THERE SOUNDING LIKE AN ENRAGED AND DRUNK BOBCAT WHOSE ASS IS BEING SANDED DOWN WITH A BELT SANDER WITH 30 GRIT SAND PAPER ON IT WHILE BEING SET ON FIRE!!!!

(Note: The author does not condone hurting or mutilating aminuls in any way. The above Bobcat Allegory is meant as a desription of something you would not understand if you were offended by it. So you PETA fuckers can go right back to eating your meat by-product sandwiches and raw greaseburgers).

There has only been one shouter band I ever really got into....the KINGS Of Shouter Metal...

PANTERA!!!!

Hey man Phil actually sang his ass off on the first record!!!

But nobody could beat him as a shouter...he could sound more horribly horrifying than anyone....

Right now on HBB there is a half hour special on Motorhead with live videos from their latest DVD Stagefright (which kicks total ass by the way!!!).

Arguments could be supplied accusing Lemmy of being a shouter, but the difference is that he is actually singing.

These young shouter bands just want to sound as if their vocals were being drowned inside a garbage compactor that had been thrown in the back of a huge garbage truck with 34 chain saws, 14 lawnmowers and 76 weed-eaters all running at full blast while being crushed by the garbage truck.

Lemmy just sings the lyrics while imitating the shouter style, and kicks fucking ass.

So he is excused from these rantings.

Commercial for Kataklysm and Dimmu Borgir on Nuclear Blast records was just on...I could not tell the difference between them.

Heh...a band called "Through The Eyes Of The Dead"...they sound completely pointless.

The singer is on a rasp that makes the Bobcat Allegory sound like an angelic choir.

The band is pummeling their instruments to the extreme for about 3 or 4 minutes with this ignorant sandpaper bullshit over the top of it.....

Who in the FUCK is gonna remember something like that?


Back in the 60s & 70s old people called The Stones, Zeppelin & Hendrix "noise" but they were actual musicians. Who wrote actual music.

Call me an old curmudgeon motherfucker if you must, but I think all shouter people should be given the chance to prove they can sing, and if they cannot, ban them from ever performing anywhere ever again.

PPPPTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHBBBBBBB!!!!!!!!!!



End rant here I suppose....

Well, I just kinda missed the boat on the whole black shorts, black t-shirt, tons-of-tattoos, screaming style of these bands you mentioned...

I enjoyed what I have heard of Pantera, but not enough to get into them big-time.

The same type of samey-sounding criticisms were leveled at a lot of the rock bands of the 1980s by those who had only minimal exposure to them, yet if you asked a fan, they'd probably say that there is a difference to them between, say, AC/DC and Judas Priest.

Even with the whole image factor to one side, from the limited amount I HAVE heard of those types of bands, there's not a lot there that turns me on.

Plus, I think in terms of angst, dark-edged themes and sheer balls, both Venom and Motorhead blow 'em all away, IMO.

[PumpedUpMidget]

Even though I love Ministry, they would fall into the category.

[Mr. Vengeance]

I like that Binnie brought up Sabbath, because they are a great example of being HEAVY without having to shout or play fast.

Trouble, who were Sabbath fans OBVIOUSLY, know this as well.

[Hardrock69]

My post #15 contains an error.

The very first sentence I meant to say that Chaos AD is the only album of Sepultura's I have heard that I liked. I have seen/heard a lot of other stuff that they have done, and it was all stuff I did not care for.

[Mr. Vengeance]

I like Sepultura's Roots and Against. Both are fairly creative for that kind of metal, with the use of all the South American roots music they used.

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

Originally posted by Hardrock69
My post #15 contains an error.

The very first sentence I meant to say that Chaos AD is the only album of Sepultura's I have heard that I liked. I have seen/heard a lot of other stuff that they have done, and it was all stuff I did not care for.

Chaos AD is awesome. I like their early stuff.

[rustoffa]

I honestly believe some suit pushed the envelope on this shit. It's like once the pseudo-punk thing (Blink) took off, some dipshit took the boy-band factory to Scottsdale with a fistfull of Morbid Angel discs. Fuck, I can't tell the difference between Screamo and Emo. Some of it sounds like someone is fixing to CRY. Just horrible.

[mako_kimura]

I definitely agree with everyone here. I hate how all these bands feel they need to be negative and scream their fucking head off. And plus, what's with the complex shit? As I Lay Dying, Atreyu, Bullet For My Valentine, Trivium, and unfortunately Children of Bodom, they all sound exactly alike. I can't stand it (although, I do like COB)

[MAPRamone]

Originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
Chaos AD is awesome. I like their early stuff.

I like Chaos AD and Roots. But i have to say Chaos is THE high point in Sepultura's career. It struck a perfect balance between being melodically creative but still heavy as a motherfucker!

[MAPRamone]

Originally posted by mako_kimura
I do like COB

I'm finnish so you'd think i'd have patriotic reasons for digging CoB, but really they do nothing for me. I don't hate them, i just can't bring myself to give a damn.

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

Originally posted by mako_kimura
I definitely agree with everyone here. I hate how all these bands feel they need to be negative and scream their fucking head off. And plus, what's with the complex shit? As I Lay Dying, Atreyu, Bullet For My Valentine, Trivium, and unfortunately Children of Bodom, they all sound exactly alike. I can't stand it (although, I do like COB)

When the bands I like are negative, they have a genuine reason. That's what I love about them. THEY'RE REAL! their promary objective is music, not a quickass buck and staying around for 5 minutes on the radio.

[mako_kimura]

Oh definitely, but I just hate it when these other screamer bands SAY they're singing about all the political problems and their personal problems, when in reality they're very well off and have no problems to bitch about at all

[Coyote]

Originally posted by MAPRamone
I'm finnish so you'd think i'd have patriotic reasons for digging CoB, but really they do nothing for me. I don't hate them, i just can't bring myself to give a damn.

Only thing I care 'bout in CoB is evrything but the "vocals".

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