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Give me that which I desire
Still chirpin' at me?!? I'm laughin' at spinning you clowns like a dime store top!!!:pOriginally posted by Tiki-Tom
Yeah, somebody does seem bitter. Relax, man. You love Metallica. Point taken, but you will never convince some of us around here that they are better than Megadeth.
...because they're not
Keep it up spanky.....
You can create all the aliases you like.....
IPs don't lie.......
You mean you believe he would re-join. remember, dave mustain was an original band member of metallica. i still have a copy of the "no life 'till leather" demo tape, i transferred it to cd a few years ago.Originally posted by binnie
Dude, watch the scene in Some Kind Of Monster.
He'd join in a heartbeat.
james hetfield' singing is way too falsetto,but the solos that dave mustaine plays rock harder and would rip kirk hamster 10 billion new assholes anyday. listen to it if you can find it,then listen to the album versions. you can tell kirk tried and failed to cop dave's licks.
the mechanix done by metallica at royally breakneck speed and hetfield on vocals just proves that when kirk joined when dave was "fired" during the "kill 'em all" sessions and it morhed into the 4 horsemen that they were better having dave in the band.
i say listen to the best songs metallica ever put out were written or co-written by and with dave mustain.
go listen to "kill 'em all" and then "killing is my business, and business is good" and judge for yourself.
my vote is megadeth hands down.
metallica ain't shit without dave mustain and the late cliff burton.
"It's like trying to fit a mouse fart into a sardine can with a shoe horn"-Ace DiamondOriginally Posted by hideyoursheep
Hahahahahheehehheeeeee...I only thought you were crazy before! Now I'm quite sure of it!Originally posted by Matt White
Still chirpin' at me?!? I'm laughin' at spinning you clowns like a dime store top!!!:p
Keep it up spanky.....
You can create all the aliases you like.....
IPs don't lie.......
You need to go check my IP again-IF in fact you can! What a tool...and not the sharpest one in the shed.
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5 pages of total nonsense..Both bands have good and bad shit, and neither one of them was ever really all that grate....Now, Cannibal Corpse--there's a band with some ROKK....
this is an outrage! no birthday thread for the world's greatest actor? you swine!
Bullshit.Originally posted by vheddyrmv8
A fucking MEN. Some of you guys are fuckin' idiots...Mustaine had credits on the 2 FIRST albums. He had NOTHING to do with it thereafter.
go and look at the songwriting credits from kea,rtl,mop,as well as
......ajfa.dave has credits on all four of them.
looking at MOP cd right now...no mustaine credit on any song. you ain't so bright is you?
Oh well, think what you will if it makes ya feel better. Ya really should try and relax. It's only music were talkin about. We're not tryin' to change the world. I need no aliasesOriginally posted by Matt White
Keep it up spanky.....
You can create all the aliases you like.....
IPs don't lie.......
Shut the fuck up.Originally posted by Motherpucker73
Now, Cannibal Corpse--there's a band with some ROKK....
Fuck you... your first post is in this thread? Nice alias motherfucker..... most aliases with a brain post in Airielle's dump to get their post count up first.... I see someone (let's guess who) made all these fucking aliases to sway the post count at the top. Don't you realize that the dudes in Metallica may have cheated Mustaine out of a few songs here or there? I'm not saying that Metallica isn't capable of creating good tunes sans Mustaine, but I'm pretty sure that he had a hand in some uncredited works.Originally posted by Mr. Raven
looking at MOP cd right now...no mustaine credit on any song. you ain't so bright is you?
I thought it was so funny when Dave Mustaine talked about Hammett's abilities.
All I know is that Megadeth is still relevant. Metallica isn't.
That's not entirely true because Metallica was recorded live performing a new song. I hope the new album sounds NOTHING like St Anger.Originally posted by Tiki-Tom
All I know is that Megadeth is still relevant. Metallica isn't.
I have always thought that. It wouldn't be uncharacteristic of Metallica to do that to him. Thare are a few songs on MoP that I'm sure he had a hand in. If he didn't outright write them, his influence is definitely there.Originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
Don't you realize that the dudes in Metallica may have cheated Mustaine out of a few songs here or there? I'm not saying that Metallica isn't capable of creating good tunes sans Mustaine, but I'm pretty sure that he had a hand in some uncredited works.
I don't care if it's the best album ever recorded. I wouldn't even wipe my ass with it. Metallica betrayed their first fans long ago.Originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
That's not entirely true because Metallica was recorded live performing a new song. I hope the new album sounds NOTHING like St Anger.
That new tune isn't very good IMO. It has its moments, and one of those moments sounds exactly like part of Nevermore's "We Disintegrate."
I don't care about the new Metallica song either. I just can't wait until United Abominations. I can't wait to see the new cover art (I'm guessing that the new Vic Rattlehead is going to be in the signature).
I don't think so anyway.....don't like death metal much, with the exception of Opeth....Originally posted by Motherpucker73
Now, Cannibal Corpse--there's a band with some ROKK....
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opeth are injecting new elements into that genre!Originally posted by Soul Reaper
I don't think so anyway.....don't like death metal much, with the exception of Opeth....
The Power Of The Riff Compels Me
that's why they're so grate....Originally posted by binnie
opeth are injecting new elements into that genre!
a very Scandanavian band....
They also have some serious fans on this website, the fact that a band that unorthodox gets a lrage following is a tribute to how great they are!
It depends on what era you are talking about. If you're talking classic Metallica, KEA to AJFA, I much prefer that to Megadeth, anyday. But then, that is some of the best metal ever produced. If you're talking later years Metallica (a.k.a. alternica, selloutica, sucktallica), then it's Megadeth, hands down. I like what both bands have to offer, for the most part, other than Metallica's post Black output. My favorite era of Megadeth is the Countdown era. That's my favorite album of theirs, and I like the movie tracks they did during the same era that somehow didn't make it onto a record other than the Hidden Treasures cd, Angry Again and 99 Ways To Die. They were at their peak in the early 90's, then they went the way of Metallica and went to a softer sound, but still put out good, quality music, unlike Metallica. I bought Cryptic Writings when it came out, and really enjoyed alot of the stuff on that album. I will say this about Megadeth...they are the only ones of the two bands to successfully go back to their old sound after doing several softer albums in a row. Metallica tried, but failed miserably, to go back to making hard music with the turd St. Anger. I wish Metallica could go back to making music like on their first four albums, but I just don't see it happening.
They have lost the speed metal vibe they had back in the day. For whatever reason it's just not there anymore. Thats just something ya can't fake your way through. Some lose that feeling as they get older and some don't. It's just that simple.Originally posted by Little Texan
I wish Metallica could go back to making music like on their first four albums, but I just don't see it happening.
Just be happy that they gave us a few killer albums back in the day.
It will not (not likely)happen again.
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Meanwhile, United Abominations is surely going to kick ass!Originally posted by Tiki-Tom
They have lost the speed metal vibe they had back in the day. For whatever reason it's just not there anymore. Thats just something ya can't fake your way through. Some lose that feeling as they get older and some don't. It's just that simple.
Just be happy that they gave us a few killer albums back in the day.
It will not (not likely)happen again.
.
Why can Mustaine not seem to be able to keep together a steady lineup these days? It's a different lineup every album it seems. Is he that difficult to work with? That said, I did like alot of "The World Needs A Hero", especially 1000 Times Goodbye, Dread And The Fugitive Mind, Motopsycho, Return To Hangar, and the second half of When, although it sounded like a knockoff of Metallica's cover of Am I Evil?, still cool. "The System Has Failed", I just got that and I've listened to it one time, and wasn't too overly impressed the first listen. They have their old sound back, but nothing really grabbed my attention the first listen. I prefer the lineup that had Marty Friedman, Dave Ellefson, and Nick Mensa...that was their best lineup, IMO. I have no idea if this new lineup is going to be worth a shit...don't know anything about any of those musicians.
Yes it surely will.Originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
Meanwhile, United Abominations is surely going to kick ass!
Speaking of lineup changes, Dave needs to bring Junior back.
Sadly, I don't think that will ever happen.Originally posted by Tiki-Tom
Yes it surely will.
Speaking of lineup changes, Dave needs to bring Junior back.
I guess not.
But stranger things have happened.
Still love em but they are not quite the same with Junior gone.
If you watched their VH1 BTM, he fired a lot of people because he was fucked up on drugs.Originally posted by Little Texan
Why can Mustaine not seem to be able to keep together a steady lineup these days? It's a different lineup every album it seems. Is he that difficult to work with? That said, I did like alot of "The World Needs A Hero", especially 1000 Times Goodbye, Dread And The Fugitive Mind, Motopsycho, Return To Hangar, and the second half of When, although it sounded like a knockoff of Metallica's cover of Am I Evil?, still cool. "The System Has Failed", I just got that and I've listened to it one time, and wasn't too overly impressed the first listen. They have their old sound back, but nothing really grabbed my attention the first listen. I prefer the lineup that had Marty Friedman, Dave Ellefson, and Nick Mensa...that was their best lineup, IMO. I have no idea if this new lineup is going to be worth a shit...don't know anything about any of those musicians.
He should have tried harder to work things out with Ellefson though, for me Megadeth is Ellefson and Mustaine.
I really couldn't care less who is playing drums and lead (although I'd love to see Menza and Friedman back, I ain't gonna lose sleep over it.)
I just get the impression that Mustaine is very hard to work with - and rightly so, he knows what he wants.
But I don't imagine that Megadeth has ever been anything like a democracy - I mean, of all those guitar players, not many have received song writing credits. Maybe if he let people in then they'd have better working relationships.
That's all conjecture tho.....
Ha Ha, that certainly seems to have been the reason for the demise of Jeff Young.Originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
If you watched their VH1 BTM, he fired a lot of people because he was fucked up on drugs.
Marty is the one that makes no sense, when he was talking about not really liking Heavy Metal, I was thinking "boy are you in the wrong band!"
That seems the oddest reason to leave, IMO.
He was part of something great....
I think that there is more to it than that. Marty said that he loves pop music, and thrash never did it for him. Do you think that there may have been another reason that he was not allowed to speak of?
I know this has already been stated before on this thread, but I do find it absolutely enthralling that after so many decades these two bands can still be the subject of such passionate discordances.
And, like I said before, Metallica certainly was the biggest act back in the day, but they lost it after Cliff died. ...And Justice For All has only a few good tracks on it, and certainly doesn't stand up to any album from the trilogy that Cliff contributed to. The black album? Even weaker, and after that... Complete and utter shite.
Now, Megadeth DID have some weak albums, namely Cryptic Writings and Risk, but The System Has Failed, albeit being weaker than classics such as Peace Sells and Rust in Peace is still a good Metal album.
So, over the years, Megadeth wins by consistency. Metallica went too astray to even be taken serious nowadays.
And as for concerts? Well, I've seen both bands recently, and I have to tell you the Megadeth was booed by critics because, and ONLY BECAUSE of the virtuosism and intrumental masturbation going on on that stage. The critics conveniently looked the other way in every other aspects of the concert and massacred Dave & co. because of the excellent musicianship displayed on stage. Go figure.
Metallica? They were cheered, of course. Because a Metallica concert nowadays is a concert you can go too with your parents AND granparents. Maybe you can take the wife and kids too, 'cause they surely won't be playing only of their Thrash Metal classics, the older stuff being from the Black Album. Only family friendly "Metal" anthems. Pack your family up in your mini van and go have a picnic while watching James & co. doing their antics on stage. Hell, if you're lucky, maybe VAN HAGAR will be the opening act.
Disgusting...
Cheers! :bottle:
It's not disgusting at all because thrash lives with Mustaine now.
!
Imapus Sylicker says:
"Because a Metallica concert nowadays is a concert you can go too with your parents AND granparents. Maybe you can take the wife and kids too, 'cause they surely won't be playing only of their Thrash Metal classics" "Pack your family up in your mini van and go have a picnic while watching James & co. doing their antics on stage"
I just may pack my family (7 year old daughter included-she knows whats cool) up in the SUV and go see Megadeth because we love REAL metal and that just the way we roll.
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there's a Japanese guitarist programme called Hebimetal-san, which Marty hosts.....he likes a lot of J-Pop....Originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
I think that there is more to it than that. Marty said that he loves pop music, and thrash never did it for him. Do you think that there may have been another reason that he was not allowed to speak of?
there's an episode of him and Paul Gilbert duelling it out on guitar....I don't understand japanese but I know how they play the 'games'....
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Cool video! I never understood why anyone would join the world's state of the art speed metal band but love pop.Originally posted by Soul Reaper
there's a Japanese guitarist programme called Hebimetal-san, which Marty hosts.....he likes a lot of J-Pop....
there's an episode of him and Paul Gilbert duelling it out on guitar....I don't understand japanese but I know how they play the 'games'....
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he must have an INCREDIBLY broad taste then.....Originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
Cool video! I never understood why anyone would join the world's state of the art speed metal band but love pop.
Whatever happened to Chris Poland? He doesn't play metl anymore. He's fruity like Vai. Great guitarist though. Favorite Megadeth lineup:
Mustaine
Ellefson
Friedman
Menza
Vic
“Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”
Yep, that's the most solid line up. Although it would have been interesting if Gasr had stuck around on drums - that guy was a monster!Originally posted by sadaist
Whatever happened to Chris Poland? He doesn't play metl anymore. He's fruity like Vai. Great guitarist though. Favorite Megadeth lineup:
Mustaine
Ellefson
Friedman
Menza
Vic
He was on parts of the last disc -Originally posted by sadaist
Whatever happened to Chris Poland? He doesn't play metl anymore. He's fruity like Vai. Great guitarist though.
The System Has Failed
Yeah.... I read on his Wikipedia article that he speaks fluent Japanese.Originally posted by Soul Reaper
he must have an INCREDIBLY broad taste then.....
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